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AIBU?

To think rich folk are the WORST tippers

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CRad · 29/11/2016 22:24

Name changed in case my boss is on here (some minor changes to protect my employment)

Guess what I got for my christmas tip....go on guess!

Clue...I am a private cleaner for a very wealthy family. I cleaned for the last time this year today as they are off to Canada skiing for the month.

In fact fuck it i'm just going to tell you what I got......

A new tabard. A TABARD. I don't even wear a tabard

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ollieplimsoles · 04/12/2016 01:04

I dont know if I agree op, my and dh do well, and we are very generous tippers.

Dh learned from his grandfather- who is a literal rags to riches case. He ran away from a children's home in London and joined the navy, then started his own business and now earns a six figure yearly salary. He leaves HUGE tips to everyone, even after spending £200+ ob a meal for the family.

MrsKoala · 04/12/2016 00:07

I feel bad now. It never would have occurred to me to give money to my cleaner. I was thinking i'd maybe give her kids vouchers and her some chocs, but certainly not a weeks wages worth. I'm actually a good tipper usually - 20% in restaurants, £20 to each removal man etc, but I hadn't considered it for the cleaner. In my defence I do pay more than she asks (she charges £8 per hour and i give £10 and always round up) and i am really flexible with her childcare and sickness (she cancels last minute and has to leave early or re-arrange about 50% of the time) etc and when she was ill dh took her to the hospital as she couldn't drive and i sent flowers.

Maybe it's because we aren't 'rich' tho and i don't work so i don't think of her earnings in comparison to mine.

Should i tip the Nanny who has been helping out for 5 weeks? Or just give a gift?

maninawomansworld01 · 03/12/2016 23:38

yeah but even if you give a more than fair days' pay, they are still earning comparatively way less than you are. And I bet you get a bonus. I know I did and Dh got a massive one. Why shouldn't the cleaner get a bonus too.

I don't give a big bonus a xmas to make up for being a shit employer. I give it because I get windfalls in my employment and so does dh so why shouldn't our cleaner? Also, frankly, because we are rich and I think we should spread it about a bit.

It isn't mutually exclusive to pay decent wages to, say, a cleaner, and also give a decent xmas bonus.

I don't get a bonus, I get whatever I can make in the year, no one hands me money for nothing. My customers don't give me bonuses just because it's Christmas or they're pleased with their dealings with me. We agree a price, I hold up my end of the deal and they pay me the correct money, on time.
I have literally NEVER had a client say to me ' Hey Man, I know you invoiced me for £60k but I'm just so pleased I've paid you £65k instead.' so why the fuck should I do this?

Don't get me wrong, I do pay Christmas bonuses, the staff have money for a Christmas bash every year I just don't go mental with it. Most of my staff have been with my family for a long time and those who are clearly 'stayers' are paid significantly above the going rate for their jobs because I want to keep them.

Flamingflume · 01/12/2016 14:26

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Boomerwang · 01/12/2016 14:23

I used to work for Tesco. The christmas bonus was a few vouchers: spend 50 quid get a fiver off. Cheeky as hell. I don't know what the student staff were going to do with that. Of course I gave them to my mother who can actually afford to spend that kind of money. Given that they'd still profit from 45 quid's worth of shopping it's kind of like we gave our own employer the bonus instead.

MyKidsHaveTakenMySanity · 01/12/2016 14:16

Honestly, the fact that these are the type of people who told you (lowly staff) that you may not drink their coffee but are allowed tea, I would think that as you do not wear a tabard normally (which would obviously show you are staff) that they do actually want you to wear one and this is their way of communicating it.

user1470997562 · 01/12/2016 14:08

It's reminding me of dobby being presented with a sock. Master has given me clothes!

starchildareyoulistening · 01/12/2016 14:00

I'd far rather get nothing at all than something so condescending as a tabard, as I suspect OP would too. (For what it's worth, I work for a small independent business and we don't get a Christmas bonus or gifts but the boss lays on a very generous Christmas party and pays for everything including drinks, so that counts as our bonus.)

Mathsmess · 01/12/2016 13:45

User147, yes! Like that really wealthy lawyer who got caught dodging train fairs! What's the point?! Just to see if he could get away with it? Being too entitled to pay?

CRad · 01/12/2016 13:44

I understand that some people are happy to be good employers all year and don't feel the need to up the ante at Christmas.

Perhaps they could try to understand that even the £10 she spent on the tabard would be a little extra for Christmas. I didn't expect anything. To then get given a tabard....

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user1470997562 · 01/12/2016 10:06

And actually, there is some DATA to support what you're saying about the rich being more selfish than the poor on average - quite a few studies have been done that suggest they are less generous, more self-absorbed, and less ethical!

I've found that certainly some very entreprenerial types I've met will take the most bizarre unnecessary risks - like avoid paying a trainfare or deliberately withold payments to suppliers. A sort of dishonesty that I wouldn't dream of doing. Why on earth would you not pay someone if you commissioned the work and they did the job to satisfaction. But it's really common for people to try and get away with not paying. I only know because I do a bit of credit control and it's astonishing the linked in profiles of some of these people - you really wouldn't think they were like that. But I guess they are just a cross section of the population and why, because they have a professional career or whatever, should they be honest and have integrity? It has taught me it's all a farce.

A tabard is an insulting gift. I would find a better client myself. They would have been better giving you nothing.

mimishimmi · 01/12/2016 09:51

What IS a tabard?

shovetheholly · 01/12/2016 08:03

Jesus! That's appalling (and a bit insulting).

And actually, there is some DATA to support what you're saying about the rich being more selfish than the poor on average - quite a few studies have been done that suggest they are less generous, more self-absorbed, and less ethical!

DustOffYourHighestHopes · 01/12/2016 07:52

2 weeks pay plus a box of something. This year, nice handcream.

daisychain01 · 01/12/2016 07:44

why should you get anything extra just because it's December?

Disingenuous question of the day! How about "because Christmas is a good time to show appreciation to people who make a significant difference to your life and in real terms they are being paid peanuts"

I wish I could afford to pay our cleaner £200 a visit, she is such a diamond. I give her a fair wage and we will give her a bonus plus gift next week.

TheNaze73 · 01/12/2016 07:33

YABVU. It's a sweeping generalisation. A bit like saying all people on benefits are scroungers. 99% of people on this planet are good but, the other 1% are cocks, from whatever walk of life.

sofato5miles · 01/12/2016 02:57

We tip one month's salary at Christmas with presents 'from the children'.

user1477282676 · 01/12/2016 02:51

Larry it's a bit more complex than that. A lot of rich people have been educated in finances by their parents...who were educated by their parents.

And so on.

It's eye opening to listen in to really wealthy people discussing tax and investments for instance.

KookSpook · 01/12/2016 02:38

MakeItStopNeville I would have said no thanks & given it back. What a tosser.

SillySongsWithLarry · 01/12/2016 02:31

Rich people are rich because they don't spend money. I would rather be poor and generous than rich and tight.

MakeItStopNeville · 01/12/2016 02:15

When I was a student, I worked as a waitress. One night, a very wealthy local guy booked the whole restaurant out for his (small) group of friends. The bill was £££££££££ and I worked my arse off and was very professional. He tipped me £3 and was laughing about it as he left. I would say his name but it would out me too!

Pallisers · 01/12/2016 01:17

For those who work directly for me, I would rather pay a fair days' pay for a fair days' work and provide good working conditions . I don't feel the need to give enormous tips or over the top gifts at Christmas to make up for being a shit employer.

yeah but even if you give a more than fair days' pay, they are still earning comparatively way less than you are. And I bet you get a bonus. I know I did and Dh got a massive one. Why shouldn't the cleaner get a bonus too.

I don't give a big bonus a xmas to make up for being a shit employer. I give it because I get windfalls in my employment and so does dh so why shouldn't our cleaner? Also, frankly, because we are rich and I think we should spread it about a bit.

It isn't mutually exclusive to pay decent wages to, say, a cleaner, and also give a decent xmas bonus.

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maninawomansworld01 · 30/11/2016 23:39

We are rich.
I reckon I'm an average tipper but at times like Christmas I'm more generous.
For those who work directly for me, I would rather pay a fair days' pay for a fair days' work and provide good working conditions . I don't feel the need to give enormous tips or over the top gifts at Christmas to make up for being a shit employer.
Contractors or waiting staff in restaurants and the like where I have no control over their pay or conditions I will tip a bit more generously.

bump6 · 30/11/2016 23:36

Unfortunately not everyone works for a company where a night out on the company is usual as is it is is usual to receive a gift or a bonus for continuous hard work.
People who earn crazy amounts in so many different professions, simply have no idea of how to behave towards others who do so much for them, usually without time off!
However there are those that appreciate the people who clean, iron, cook etc.
If you can, suck it up, because you are so much a better person than they ever will be..

bump6 · 30/11/2016 23:22

And that is why they are rich!!

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