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What to expect from a cleaner

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broodymamma · 23/11/2016 11:52

Is it too much to expect my cleaner to actually tidy my house. I have 5 kids the eldest being 8. They are very efficient at turning my house upside down. But up till now I have had a cleaner every day for at least 4 hours. If she finds a kids skipping rope say on the kitchen floor she will pick it up and put it on a chair and tuck chair in rather than find the appropriate place to put it. Worst still if she goes to the playroom to tidy and finds feltips with the lids off she will not replace the lids. She will gather the whole lot and toss them into the nearest toybox. She will often be met with a mixture of games of various sorts that have been played with but unfortunately not been put away. She will make no effort to tidy each game into the appropriate box but toss the whole lot in to whichever toy box is nearest. I guess that if this doesn't suit me I should look for a replacement cleaner. but just wondering if I am expecting too much and a replacement wouldn't be any better. I know my kids need to learn to tidy up after themselves and I am working on this.

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Musicinthe00ssucks · 23/11/2016 12:43

I always tidy up before my cleaner comes. It's not her job to tidy but to clean. It sounds like your cleaner is in a never ending cycle of tidying up after your children. Why don't you teach your children to tidy up after themselves and put their own toys away? An important life skill no?

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PinkiePiesCupcakes · 23/11/2016 12:44

I was thinking about setting up a cleaning business in my little village here. I've done research and there's only two and they're fully booked.

But, after reading MN threads about 'cleaners' I've decided not to bother.

In my mind a cleaner is there to clean.
Not tidy up
Not wait for tesco
Not to put shopping away
Not do ironing
Not hang wet clothes out
Not put washer on in first place
Not to be expected to do a perfectly job on a 20room mansion in 2hours
Etc etc.

A cleaner should, empty bins, dust, hoover, mop, polish, scrub a loo or bath etc
Everything else is a housekeeper, laundry maid or general dogs body.

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ShowMePotatoSalad · 23/11/2016 12:44

You get your cleaner to pair your DH's socks? And he only complained when it wanted to wear his sandals?

Sorry but LOLLLLL

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Bluntness100 · 23/11/2016 12:44

Yes I agree that the kids ought to be clearing up after them selves in the long run and I am working on that

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petitpois55 · 23/11/2016 12:46

She's a cleaner not a skivvy. Your kids need to tidy up after themselves.

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Frouby · 23/11/2016 12:48

4 hours a day is a lot of time. Plenty of time to clean and tidy. And probably do a bit of ironing too. That's 20 hours a week! Unless you live in a 15 bed mansion with multiple guest rooms to do every day.

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Bountybarsyuk · 23/11/2016 12:49

If you have five under 8, then surely having what used to be called a 'mother's help' is reasonable? Or 'dogsbody' according to one post?

I don't get this fury over tidying, lots of children, small ones, they aren't all brilliant at tidying and even if you are training them, chances are if the OP is very busy, you can't get them to do it all of the time. I very much doubt people with 5 small children all have perfectly tidied houses as it takes time to train children to tidy!

Pinkie- if you don't want to iron, put away shopping, put a wash on, you are free to state this, you will still probably get lots of offers. But I don't think there's anything morally wrong with asking your cleaner if they'd like to earn an extra hour's pay and do your ironing, do you? That's what mine does and she would prefer the extra money at mine than running around cleaning another house.

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RasperryInAMelon · 23/11/2016 12:49

Sounds to me like you need a housekeeper not a cleaner.

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petitpois55 · 23/11/2016 12:51

Hang on, I've just seen the post about the cleaner pairing your sons socks, is that some kind of a joke? Is he little Lord FaunteroyGrin ]
If I was your cleaner, I'd have fucked off long ago.

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ShowMePotatoSalad · 23/11/2016 12:52

There's nothing wrong with having a housekeeper.

However, did you hire her for 4 hours a day to be a CLEANER? If so, cleaning is what you can reasonably expect to get. Not tidying, not sock-pairing.

Have you discussed with her what you expect from her? Does she know she's a housekeeper not a cleaner? You just need to communicate what you want.

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Sheepersfluff · 23/11/2016 12:52

Cleaners are paid to clean, not tidy. I always tidy before mine comes over.

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broodymamma · 23/11/2016 12:53

Yes I agree that the kids ought to be clearing up after them selves in the long run and I am working on that

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Sheepersfluff · 23/11/2016 12:53

PS you might want to tell your H that socks and sandals are not a good look.

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PinkiePiesCupcakes · 23/11/2016 12:54

There's. Nothing wrong woith asking anybody tondpo anything.
If they agree and they get paid then that's fair enough.
Its the expectation that is the bothersome part.

I could imagine getting to a client and finding a note like in. as thread I read the other day,
"Hi could you keep an ear out and if the shopping comes can you outnit away please?"
Fine if agreed but what if it wasn't agreed? The cleaner is then stood there thinking,
"If I say no, they'll sack me, if I do it, it sets a precedence that I'll do it every time"

Screw that.

You wouldn't go to a Dr for a check up and ask them to have a look at your dog whilst you're there.

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MauiWest · 23/11/2016 12:54

Genuinely puzzled.

Why can't a cleaner iron, do laundry or tidy up (as long as it is reasonable in time and wage)? Why are you a "skivvy" if you help, but not if you clean peoples toilets?

OP it sounds like you need a house keeper, but only because of the amount of hours she does for you. If she is around everyday, she can prioritise jobs and work differently than someone popping in for a couple of hours a week.

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Sheepersfluff · 23/11/2016 12:57

maui

What you have described is a housekeeper and not a cleaner.

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followTheyellowbrickRoad · 23/11/2016 12:57

I would sit down and discuss what you want her to do. I don't think there is anything wrong with asking for her to help tiding up and with 5 young children I imagine you have a lot going on and neither the time or energy to deal with it. I'd to quite happy to tidy and clean given enough time. But if it's not something your cleaner is happy to do. I would look for one that will.

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SukeyTakeItOffAgain · 23/11/2016 12:59

But the OP hasn't actually said whether this has even been discussed with her cleaner. Sounds to me like they need to sit down and renegotiate. The cleaner, not unreasonably, seems to think she's there to actually clean. She's not a mind reader.

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MauiWest · 23/11/2016 12:59

Is he little Lord Faunteroy Confused

You give your kids unpaired socks, do you?

It sounds to me that many posters here are jealous that you can afford some help.

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CoolCarrie · 23/11/2016 12:59

Bet dh looked odd with socks and sandles !

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CaesiumTime · 23/11/2016 12:59

You have a housekeeper who also cleans.

If she is there 4 hours a day I presume she isn't cleaning all that time but is more like a 'daily' or a housekeeper.

I had similar when my DC were young and yes, mine could tidy things up where they belonged as the house was organised and it was clear where toys, etc belonged. And she did put theids on the markers if they were left off and if toys were left out she put them in the correct bins.

She should be able to out the laundry away correctly but socks are always a problem unless you have some amazing system. Mine never did mismatch socks (oh how I miss her) but she was detail oriented and not rushed.

Maybe explain to her these few things - they aren't really that big of a problem unless she's doing it all over the house. Mine would often put things in the kitchen in the wrong place but she would always put them in the same wrong place so she wasn't chaotic just had the wrong idea as to where something belonged.

Socks with sandals though ShockBlush

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Sheepersfluff · 23/11/2016 12:59

Actually maui many posters here have said they also have cleaners. I do.

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petitpois55 · 23/11/2016 13:02

It's your DH's socks, not your sons. .Grin Grin Grin [ grin] OP, you're having us on here. I cannot believe a grown adult needs somebody to pair his socks up. It was bad enough when I thought it was your DS.
Does she out toothpast his toothbrush as well, a la HRh Price Charles. Smile

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petitpois55 · 23/11/2016 13:04

I could afford a cleaner, but I wouldn"t have one.

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Bunny2017 · 23/11/2016 13:05

The standard joke in our house is 'We have to clean up, Ellie(the cleaning lady) is coming tomorrow. I pay her to clean the house and not to pick up stuff that my kids or husband leave lying around. Anything not put away before she arrives gets black bagged. If it's still in the bag after 4 weeks it gets freecycled or binned. It works a charm

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