My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

AIBU?

AIBU to think this is irritating or even dangerous?

29 replies

NeopreneMermaid · 27/10/2016 14:02

Claire's Accessories range of bits and bobs with 'Choose happy' on them. m.claires.co.uk/choose-happy-notebook/shop/fcp-product/53474

I'm not a fan of naff slogans and "inspirational" patronising 'live laugh love' bollocks in general; I find them thr home-decor equivalent of "Cheer up, Love; it might not happen." This one has got me particularly riled and concerned.

I've just reached a point of recovery from more than 25 years of severe depression (along with other MH delights) thanks to finally finding the right combination of meds, therapies and lifestyle changes. The idea that at any point in that time, I could simply have 'chosen happy' is abhorrent and undermines the complex reasons why many people aren't happy. I'd hate for someone going through what I did to see it and feel even worse for not being able to think themselves better.

I might be reading too much into what is a flippant slogan on a cheap product range but the fact it is so flippant suggests to me that this demonstrates how misunderstood MH issues remain, despite improved publicity and the best efforts of Prince Harry et al.

AIBU to think this and WIBU to complain to Claire's?

OP posts:
Report
JazzberryPi · 27/10/2016 17:01

It's a difficult one. I see people on social media post things like this and it really upsets me. "Happiness is a choice". No actually it isn't, happiness is something I struggle with on a daily basis and seeing things like this just reminds me that I have failed somehow or that I'm not healthy.

I don't blame the people that post them as I totally understand their side of it but you are not being unreasonable to feel hurt by it.

Personally I just keep my gob shut because it's not worth arguing with friends over a silly inspirational poster that made them smile.

Report
NeopreneMermaid · 27/10/2016 16:16

Ha! Thanks Yardley (and your cushion 😀). That's a good point too and actually one of the non-meds treatments that has been the biggest help has been keeping a list of all the positive things. It's not choosing to be happy per second but like you say, it's counting your blessings and focusing on the good rather than the bad, which IS a choice.

At my worst, when I started doing the list, it took months to be effective because I couldn't genuinely believe anything on the list or I could add, "but..." to everything, e.g. my DD tells me she loves me but she would say that because she's genetically obliged, or a customer was really pleased but that's only because she hasn't realised I'm just winging it. I don't do this any more but I had to reprogrammed how I thought.

Anyway, this wasn't meant to be about me any more. 😊

OP posts:
Report
headinhands · 27/10/2016 15:51

I think you'd have cause to complain if it was a slogan that the mental health charity Mind had opted for in their campaign about depression but not the flippant phrase on plastic tat in a tat shop.

Report
Yardley42 · 27/10/2016 15:50

Crosspost OP! Really sorry for everything you went through Flowers

And as a side note, I also hate the 'smile love, might never happen' twee-ness of those slogans and my silly cushion is a rare aberration from that! If we're talking about taste levels, YANBU at all! Wink

Report
Yardley42 · 27/10/2016 15:46

Obviously people with mental health issues can't just 'choose' to be happy, absolutely no argument there.

But as someone who doesn't have major mental health issues I have a cushion that says 'don't forget to be happy' on it. I find it really helpful - counting my blessings every day helps me be positive and happy. And it's not ignoring the bad in the world - it's being thankful for everything I do have. I really value that reminder each time I see it. Of course I don't think it would stop me or anybody else from becoming actually depressed but it does remind me day-to-day to focus on the positive and not to moan about things that don't really matter.

So I think plenty of people would find the slogan you describe helpful - it isn't a dig at anyone who has suffered with mental health problems. It would be awful if someone going through what you did saw it and felt bad, but in all honestly there are plenty of things in life that make you feel bad when you see them! Building up the emotional resilience to cope with that is part of good mental health. Which, silly as it sounds, my cushion helps me with. People deal with their own mental health in whatever way is best for them.

Report
NeopreneMermaid · 27/10/2016 15:46

Thanks for your replies and insights. I think the target of teens and tweens was also making me worry as I was 14 when I was first hit by depression.

I am also indeed someone who has no real actual problems - happy childhood, living family, happily married, great friends and support, no money worries, etc (outwardly an apparently charmed life) - and this made my depression worse because al my dreams had come true and I still was unhappy to the point of wishing I were dead so what the fuck was wrong with me? I must be a grossly ungrateful and fundamentally horrible person. Anyway, I digress (slightly).

And you're all right to point out I'm over thinking and taking it unnecessarily personally, for which I suppose I have years of anxiety to thank. Good point that I will feel no better banging my head against a wall by officially complaining though.

But I still want to shout, "Don't fucking tell me what to do!" at any twee nonsense that tells me to follow my dreams, laugh more, blah blah blah and tear down Claire's displays while screaming, "I didn't fucking choose depression, you ignorant fucknuts!" whenever I pop in for bobbles. But I won't because, like I said, I'm recovering well. 😂

OP posts:
Report
ItShouldHaveBeenJess · 27/10/2016 15:19

'of' ignorance, not 'if'

Report
ItShouldHaveBeenJess · 27/10/2016 15:19

I wouldn't bother complaining - it's highly likely you will end up banging your head against a brick wall if ignorance regarding MH issues, which could interfere with the progress you have made so far.

I do, however, think you have a point. If it were as simple as 'choosing to 'be happy', then depression and anxiety wouldn't exist. I'm also concerned that products like this are marketed to tweens/teens - in an ideal world, most of them will not have experienced either issue, but such a simplistic 'ideology' discourages open and frank communication about these issues.

Report
yesterdaysunshine · 27/10/2016 15:07

It's just a pretty picture and sweet, albeit meaningless, phrase.

Report
JustFoundADairyMilkCaramel · 27/10/2016 15:05

I'm sorry you've had to deal with mental Heath problems and I hope you continue to make progress.

You are overthinking this though. It's an advertisement aimed at children, not a mantra for all those who read it.

Yabu

Report
TinklyLittleLaugh · 27/10/2016 14:57

I freely admit I know fuck all about mental health.

But my young adult DD has been experiencing depression and anxiety, at least partly, I suspect, due to something that has happened to her. She decided not to take up the doctor's offer of medication and she has been referred for counselling.

In the meantime she has been attending a meditation type course which is very much focussed on thinking positive thoughts and not giving headspace to negative stuff. And actually, she feels improved. I think regular exercise is helping too.

So certainly, in my daughter's case, when she is really focussed on trying to get better, and where possibly her depression is more reactive than chemical, I think choosing to be happy can be possible.

Obviously if your life is apparently perfect and you still have depression for no apparent reason, and are too poorly to even have any thoughts of getting better then the above does not apply.

Happy to be educated if I am talking shite.

Report
BipBippadotta · 27/10/2016 14:54

This sort of twee bollocks annoys the shit out of me as well, OP. 'Choose happy' is at worst an encouragement not to think about anything that might make you unhappy or uncomfortable - like the refugee crisis, or welfare cuts, or racism. It also implies that anyone who is unhappy is simply unwilling to 'choose happy' and thus all their problems can be blamed on their own weak character.
'Positive thinking' can be a deeply socially and politically unhelpful outlook, I think.

But... it's some cheap tat in Claire's Accessories. Other dreadful slogans will be available.

Report
IceBeing · 27/10/2016 14:34

I sympathise, as it is at some level encouraging wrong thinking in the department of 'choose not to have MH problems', but over all I think the average person isn't going to pick up that connotation.

Not sure though...

Report
LilQueenie · 27/10/2016 14:31

yabu especially as these are aimed at preteen/teens. Sometimes these type of slogans do help people to see a different perspective before it gets to a deeper level.

Report
YelloDraw · 27/10/2016 14:27

Um, yeah. This isn't relaly about you and your MH issues but about people trying to live their lives in a way that makes them as happy as possible.

Report
Whensmyturn · 27/10/2016 14:25

I agree. In years to come I think we will be ashamed of how poorly resourced mental health services are. It seems to me a basic human right to have every chance at happiness. More important than education and many other things we assume everyone has a right to.

Report
FlyingElbows · 27/10/2016 14:24

You're overthinking it. It doesn't mean "choose not to affected by mental illness" it means "do things you love", "be your own person", "sing even though you sound like a cat being ironed". It's not a dig at or criticism of people who suffer with mental health problems.

Report
QuiteLikely5 · 27/10/2016 14:22

You are seriously overthinking this! Like hugely, oceanly, Great Wall of China overthinking it

Grin

Report
ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/10/2016 14:21

I think I have to agree with Snipsnip here - it's not about you choosing to BE happy, it's about choosing something that would make you happy in a general sense. Even fleetingly.

Different interpretation of the two words, really.

Glad you've found your way through your own mental health problems - this one isn't a battle you need to fight though, I think it's probably you overthinking (or just slight tangential thinking, if you prefer).

Report
Justwanttoweeinpeace · 27/10/2016 14:21

Sorry for the double post Confused

Report
Justwanttoweeinpeace · 27/10/2016 14:20

The buyer will probably have picked up a similar trinket on a shopping trip somewhere, thought 'slogans sell, in sick to death of writing 'love' on everything so I'll do this instead.'

That will be the maximum thought out into it. Please don't take it personally.

Report
Justwanttoweeinpeace · 27/10/2016 14:20

The buyer will probably have picked up a similar trinket on a shopping trip somewhere, thought 'slogans sell, in sick to death of writing 'love' on everything so I'll do this instead.'

That will be the maximum thought out into it. Please don't take it personally.

Report

Newsletters you might like

Discover Exclusive Savings!

Sign up to our Money Saver newsletter now and receive exclusive deals and hot tips on where to find the biggest online bargains, tailored just for Mumsnetters.

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

Parent-Approved Gems Await!

Subscribe to our weekly Swears By newsletter and receive handpicked recommendations for parents, by parents, every Sunday.

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

FeckinCrutches · 27/10/2016 14:18

You are reading far far too much into it. After 20+ years of panic attacks,anxiety, pnd, depression, hospital admissions, I wouldn't give this a second glance or thought.

Report
Lupinlady5 · 27/10/2016 14:18

Or YABU even! Grin

Report
Lupinlady5 · 27/10/2016 14:17

Overthinking. Sorry but YANU

Report
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.