'forgot' to pay me....

[poorandpissedoff]

Got my pay slip (monthly) today to find due to a massive cock-up on their part, they will be under paying me by £600 tomorrow. I've been told there's nothing they can do and i'll have to wait till next pay day for it to be paid. No compassion what so ever.

AIBU to want to cause hell over this. I refuse to be without half my pay for another 4 weeks! I won't be able to afford to live. Apparently is it the norm for people to wait till their next pay day, even when it's their fault. Norm for them maybe! Is it actually normal to wait?

[Bertieboo1]

I had this last month, went to see finance and got it a week late. Waiting til next pay cheque is totally unacceptable.

[travellinglighter]

This happened to me last month with my overtime, their fault so they paid me a week later. Are you in a union??

[altiara]

Suggest you can't come into work as you need to do temping where you get paid weekly and once they've paid you, you can return....
And yes, most companies payroll can sort something out quickly when they've made a mistake!

[Justaboy]

Somewhere in the firm someone will have access to the bank account now most all firms will have online banking access it'd take a few minutes to make a payment for 600 quid.

Even I can do that from here in the space of a few minutes so i cannot see any reason what they cannot pay you.

Is there a company accountant or head of finance you can talk to at all. That wally of your boss I suppose he'd be fine if half his pay was missing no doubt;!

[SheDoneAlreadyDoneHadHerses]

They might not want to due to RTI reporting, but they can still resubmit RTI to the HMRC with electronic explanation why and it will update your records correctly. If they leave it till next month it may affect and increase the amount of tax and NI you pay.

I would be back on the phone to them in the morning and TELLING them to rerun the payroll (they can do this without creating another BACS file and to no detriment to any other employee), work out the correct amount of money owed and CHAPS it same day.

[Redesul]

Argh, this sort of thing pisses me off to no end. It happened to be a LOT on my first proper job. I was 18, had been working there two years, they frequently "forgot" to pay me chunks of my wages. I used to keep track of it very closely. They'd simply shrug me off, say I'd have to wait until next pay day. I'd moved out of home at 16, so I needed to pay rent and bills and food and things like that. One day I simply could not put up with it any more, I was struggling to meet my bills, so I complained a bit more than usual, to be met with "Well, this is what your savings is for, isn't it." Needless to say I snapped at that a bit, I said I was only 18, kicked out of home at 16 with no money or anything, I have a crappy wage in an expensive town, not that I should have to justify wanting my wages, and that I will make official complaints and contact appropriate authorities if they did not pay me what I was owed by the next pay day.

The next day all that I was owed was paid to me. This actually did keep happening though. I had picked up a couple extra shifts and the pay for that was to come the next week, When it didn't come, I complained, and the same woman who commented on savings said to me, "what does it matter? It's only extra money"

[littledrummergirl]

They should be able to pay you straight away. Put your request in writing and ask them to sign to say they've received the letter. If they refuse to put the money in your bank within a reasonable time frame (a week? )then contact acas or your union rep-you should be in a union if your employer is a fucking idiot difficult.

www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage/employers-and-the-minimum-wage

If your pay deductions have taken you below minimum wage escalate it.

[mikesh909]

This happened to me recently, except it was more like 85% my pay which was missing due to my employer's error.

They made a transfer so I was able to pay my bills etc, which was subsequently retracted from my pay. As this didn't go through payroll, they had to put the missing hours through the following month. This led to a massively disproportionate round of deductions (tax, NI, pension, SL) because it looked like I'd had an extraordinarily high earning month. Of course, in reality, I had not. The tax I will get back but the rest is just money down the drain.

Try to make them put it through payroll for this month for you if your earning level is such that the extra would push you over the thresholds, if that makes any sense.

Good luck, it sucks when employers do this.

[DaddyKnight]

What to do depends on how much you want to keep the job.

As other posters have suggested, this may show your employer has cash-flow problems, so it might not be much of a job, anyway.

If your employer hasn't pay your salary and is unwilling to pay, then they are in breach of contract - and you're quite within your rights just to up and leave, as this is constructive dismissal.

If it was me, I would write to your HR manager, giving them, say 5, days to pay the shortfall in cleared funds.

If there is a grievance procedure, use it as well.

[SouthernComforts]

I run nearly 100 different payrolls at work.. it is a couple of minutes work to roll back and rer un and submit an fps adjustment for an employee. 5 minutes if they need to amend pension data. Don't take no for an answer OP.

[mummymummums]

As they've breached their contract to you, I'd set out all the extra charges they'll be responsible for if they don't remedy their mistake pronto. Bank charges, interest etc. This has happened places I've worked (not to me) and they put it right immediately and asked for details of any bank charges anyone had suffered and paid those too

[Bluetrews25]

A couple of years ago I was working almost full time, on the bank (ie zero hours contract), paid weekly. It was Christmas, and fridays were paydays. Christmas day was a friday. So was New year's Day. That meant that I did not get paid for 3 weeks. No advance warning. No apologies. No money to pay the bills over Christmas. The payroll dept obviously all took 2 weeks off work over the holiday period and did not think about the impact on weekly-paid staff.
Bastards.

[skorpion]

Absolutely no reason they can't pay you now. If they closed and submitted their reports to HMRC they can still pay you and adjust your October payslip accordingly. It's maths, not brain surgery.
It can be easy to make mistakes running payroll but it should not cause a problem to the employee at all and it is outrageous to claim that this is OK.
Imagine offering to pay your restaurant bill at the end of the following month!

[Cocklodger]

DH's old workplace used to do this to him. He's self employed now but it was awful. One pay (bear in mind he was only on 1.7k pm) we were nearly £1000 down.
DH was told he could get a sub, of £20. but the rest had to wait until payday. I was out of work at the time we were on the bones of our arses and it was the worst month of our lives tbh. But this was about 8 years ago now, so I'd hope stuff had changed :(

[BarryTheKestrel]

My work did this to me first pay day after maternity leave. They did an emergency payment but I got emergency taxed on it and got the extra 29% in my next pay. Screwed us over that month.

[lokijet]

if they haven't yet paid you for this month they may have submitted payment but there is nothing to stop them making a one off separate payment - they will not have already processed next months payroll and it would be easy to amend that file in any case


Having said all that my employer did this when i returned from maternity leave and I ended up waiting for the following month ( i work for a bank!)

[LoveMyRs]

They should be able to amend it even if they send to HMRC

[Joanna0685]

Contact HR they cannot do this, kick up a big fuss, it is illegal

[Lanaorana1]

It's properly illegal. They can BACS you tomorrow am and you should have it within 72 hours.

[Joanna0685]

It is illegal as I said before also consider the fact they may be the ones struggling for cash, if I was you start looking for other employment. After all we work for money and if they cannot be relied upon to provide that, you having done your end of the bargain, working etc then I would consider looking to change employer

[Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost]

No compassion whatsoever,.
Well that's rich greedy people who don't know what it's like to struggle and go without. They don't live on the real world. I doubt they've ever had to. Very few get rich without stepping on a few toes.
I agree with others. Kick up a stink, and absolute stink. Being £150.00 a week down is no fucking joke. And meanwhile he'll/she'll be sitting back with their big fat cigar and champers.

[Sprinklestar]

I used to work for a large blue chip and this happened all the time. You'd be surprised if I told you the company name. HR/payroll were a shower of shit. Even tried to get away with not paying bank holidays when I was off on mat leave. We're stupid enough to put in an email that I wasn't entitled to it. Ha - told them we'd see what a solicitor had to say about that!

[Fortitudine]

Raise hell! I worked in payroll years ago and something similar happened to a poor guy who was going to be left without money for food and transport over the bank holiday (first pay cheque since coming off the dole). One arsehole boss was saying that he should wait but thankfully the rest of us had a bit more humanity and raised a cash transfer. It is totally possible! (When one of senior management was down a few quid in his pay a few months later,arsehole boss was sickeningly accommodating - nice double standards!)

[topcat2014]

(as a finance director) they are giving you the runaround. Speak to the head of finance. They should be so embarrassed they immediately offer to pay a bank transfer (granted, that could take a few days) for around 2/3 of the gross shortfall.

If the head of finance continues to talk such bollocks I would question whether the employer is reputable, personally.