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To be shocked by this post on my local mums Facebook group? !

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YoMommasMomma · 04/09/2016 12:50

"Does this exist? I am looking for a cleaner that works per job and not per hour. So, until I am 100% satisfied I can ask her to re clean a room say even 10 times (or more). Same for Windows etc. Or do they all work per hour only? Please let me know. Thanks."

Would someone really ask their cleaner to keep re cleaning a room until they were happy?! Sounds a bit like they actually want a servant, not a cleaner.

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DanglyEarOrnaments · 04/09/2016 22:51

Ah don't worry, cleaners can pick and choose their clients, she wouldn't have had any takers, she was just dreaming (a really weird dream!)

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YoMommasMomma · 04/09/2016 22:42

Yup it seems to have gone from the site now. Maybe it was a bad turn of phrase but it sounded a shocking way to treat someone.

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John4703 · 04/09/2016 20:15

We use a cleaning company. All their staff are employed and on an hourly wage that is about the living wage.
They charge us per clean and always send two people to do a clean, the idea is that they check each others work. The house is always clean, sometimes they take 3 hours, sometimes longer but the cleaners do not mind as they are paid, we are happy as it is a fixed price per clean.

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Atenco · 04/09/2016 19:57

I worked with someone, who agreed to pay a tiler by the hour to tile her bathroom instead of a fee for the whole job. He took forever to do it. We used to ask her every morning if he was still there

Well that is universal. In front of my place I watched as a couple of painters took three days to paint about 12 square meters of wall!

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iklboo · 04/09/2016 17:08

Is she Stanley Kubrick reincarnate?

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HodgePodge23 · 04/09/2016 17:02

I saw this post earlier too but then it became unavailable. How disappointing lol.

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SaturdaySurprise · 04/09/2016 16:45

I worked with someone, who agreed to pay a tiler by the hour to tile her bathroom instead of a fee for the whole job. He took forever to do it. We used to ask her every morning if he was still there.

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SandyPantz · 04/09/2016 16:18

And in theory if my window guy didn't do a good job I'ld show him and ask him to sort it and not expect to pay again..
but I don't stand over him or go around with a magnifying glass when he's finished.. he gets on with it and if I can see better out the windows at the end I'm happy

there's nothing wrong on paper with what she's asking for, but if I was looking for a job I'ld not apply to her!

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SandyPantz · 04/09/2016 16:15

While she sounds like her reasons are suspicious, you can of course pay per job for domestic cleaning

I pay my window cleaner guy a fixed amount not per hour
same for overn cleaning people, you pay them per job
Carpet shampoo firms charge per job
An in between tenants or terminal clean is a fixed price

It's quite common, and not at all unreasonable

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Elendon · 04/09/2016 16:02

I'm looking for a person who's as downtrodden as me. But I want her this person to be even lower than me so I have some respect.

Is what this advert should really say.

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ConferencePear · 04/09/2016 16:02

She doesn't want a cleaner she wants someone she can bully on a regular basis.

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donajimena · 04/09/2016 15:53

I am a member of a local facebook group and people will often ask if they can recommend a cleaner/gardener etc and you will find loads of replies.
A woman recently posted 'looking for a decorator I'm extremely fussy etc etc' not one reply. Sounds like this woman. Any excuse not to pay or complain.
I'm also a cleaner but I don't do domestic cleaning. When I did I had one woman observe how I cleaned.. e.g using the nozzle to go around stair edges. ' No Dona you do the edges first' people like that really should clean their own homes

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HopelesslydevotedtoGu · 04/09/2016 15:48

You can obviously advertise 'per job', eg £X for a 2 bed flat, but if you don't like the results your only option is to find a new cleaner, not to stand over them asking for a tenth scrub of the floors

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HopelesslydevotedtoGu · 04/09/2016 15:46

ask her to re clean a room say even 10 times (or more)

Gosh, I've always thought that if you clean something once it's clean, I can't imagine two cleans let alone ten... either I'm a slattern or she is a dragon (probably both Grin)

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TattyDevine · 04/09/2016 15:42

In some ways I see where she is coming from, though she has phrased it terribly.

My cleaners have always worked on an hourly basis and without fail all have become complacent, doing less and less in the time and leaving early, which can take weeks to detect if you aren't home all the time. The last agency lot left 15 minutes early when I busted them by coming home early which is a whole hour as there were 4 of them.

So in many ways I'd love to book a clean for my house and if it's no done properly call them back to do what they quoted for and I paid for.

I don't actually mean calling back again and again to an impossibly high standard though...id just like them to do what they agreed.

It's even harder to get the job done on an hourly rate because they'd say they ran out of time when they'd left early.

It's very frustrating because it's not cheap, particularly agency rates.

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Atenco · 04/09/2016 15:33

Well if that is her advertisement looking for a cleaner I doubt she'll get many takers.

I think pay per job is ok as long as you pay and if you don't like the job that was done, you look elsewhere, at least that is what I do when I farm out my professional work.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 04/09/2016 14:56

She has unreasonable expectations.
No issue in paying per job, but expecting to be able to ask the cleaner to do it again and again? no.
She sounds like some hideous old matron or housekeeper, bullying the new nurse/ housemaid to "keep doing it til you get it right or no rations for you!"

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SheSparkles · 04/09/2016 14:55

I wonder if it's a friend of mine-she went through 4 cleaners in 3 months as no one did the job to her impossible standards 🙄

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BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 04/09/2016 14:50

Ugh, ugh, and ugh again.

She sounds like a toerag who just wants to lord the fact that she's the boss over some poor low paid sod.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 04/09/2016 14:37

Has this woman got a nice house? If so, she can have the number of my former cleaner that I just sacked. She really pushed the boundaries and this could be a perfect solution - she would take so long to do the cleaning she'd simply end up moving in (as my former cleaner joked several times about doing in my house). Then she could spend copious amounts of time chatting to the house owner, on Facebook and watching downloads on her phone instead of working. The home owner could feed her and her pay could be pocket money. Win win. And as a plus she'd never be late or be a no show or do nothing instead of cleaning because she'd have a whole week to do the work in.

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OVienna · 04/09/2016 14:36

I feel like these days, every day, I am encountering or hearing about a new and interesting sort of shit-headery. This is my one for today.

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DanglyEarOrnaments · 04/09/2016 14:35

Gabs there's no minimum wage because cleaners are self-employed and not employees.

The good news is there is far too much demand for domestic cleaning than you could ever supply so you can name your price to a certain degree. To that end, this lady will never get any cleaner interested in having her as a client, she would have broken our terms and conditions before we even started with her - far too much of a red flag, we've not taken on certain clients for far less than that!!

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Trifleorbust · 04/09/2016 14:29

I have no problem with the idea of paying per job per se, but the 'as many times as I want it done' thing is very unreasonable. There is a point at which you as the client would be being very fussy and wasting the worker's time.

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KP86 · 04/09/2016 14:24

I would love to pay our cleaners for the job. We use an agency and have different people almost every time and some race through, doing a fab job in 1.5 hours and others take their sweet time and 2.5hrs later have done 80%, and certainly none of the finishing touches.

The fast and good cleaners are rewarded with a higher hourly rate and get to leave sooner (eg. if you pay £20 for what is expected to be a 2 hour job for a reasonable person - not fast and not slow) and the slower ones have to stay until they are finished. I'm not advocating paying below minimum wage, but if the reason is because someone is deliberately slow, I don't see why I should have to pay extra or not get the work done.

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GabsAlot · 04/09/2016 14:23

isnt there minimum wage to consider or is this type of work exempt

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