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To wonder why bigger outcry for genetic strangers murdering children than their own parents

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Rowanhart · 31/05/2016 20:41

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-mum-partner-found-guilty-11407072

To me a baby being killed by their own mother is more shocking. Being killed by the one person supposed to protect you is more horrific than a predator (although,of course, equally distressing)

But for the media and many people a stranger is the bigger story.

I wonder why.

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Catmuffin · 02/06/2016 08:58

Oops i think one of those trials is ongoing so I'll report my post.

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Hodooooooooor · 02/06/2016 08:59

Because its much less common obviously. But it all gets reported, do you just not notice it? Cos thats your issue.

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Catmuffin · 02/06/2016 09:00

Done

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SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 02/06/2016 09:23

It definitely does get reported, moreso when it is women but there are restrictions on what the press can say before a trial.

The Liam Fee case was reported daily in Scotland.

However I think they are also more cateful in these cases because there are other children involved who have already had the worst possible start to life and who do not need the media all over them and everyone knowing who they are for the rest of their days. I feel dreadful for Liam but just as bad for those poor kids who are living with all those memories in their heads and all they have been through with the case and bring wrongfully accused.

However, what always make me sad is that the parents in these cases often say they struggled to cope and just lost their temper etc. So why do they fight so hard to keep the kids? It's as if they want to keep them just so they can abuse them. Sad

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A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 02/06/2016 09:33

Rowanhart

Stop hiding a daily mail sequel desire for salacious details under some sort of mask of humanitarian concern. There is no actual reason to be supplying the public with details of every cut and burn in these cases. They are reporting the trial, abuse and murder. The public aren't owed front seats to some grotesquerie. If you want daily details of chil murder, get a job in social services.

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A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 02/06/2016 09:39

And stop acting daft, kids killed by strangers GO MISSING FIRST. there's usually a huge manhunt and a search for the victim. The public has to be enlisted for the search. Children have to be found. Perpetrators have to be found. Takes days if not weeks.

Children killed by parents are found straightaway. There is still a huge news story. Trials are followed and reported on. What more do you want? What additional coverage do you feel is necessary? coloscopies? X-rays? More sobbing testimony? Pics of dead babies?

Gotta keep the GBP entertained!!

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Just5minswithDacre · 02/06/2016 10:21

*A11
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You're being pretty damned offensive in the position you are attributing to OP

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LetsSplashMummy · 02/06/2016 10:36

I think when you arrest/ suspect the parents straight away and they are charged, the media have to wait until the trial to see the evidence and details - so there isn't much to report. When it is an unknown person, a lot of details are released in the hope of catching the person and it makes a lot more headlines. Once they catch them, you have to wait for the trial for the next lot of headlines.

Mikaeel Kulir had a bit of both as he was reported missing and searched for and found before the mum was arrested. There was no sense of anti-climax for her arrest. Similarly, with Fred and Rose West, there was no difference in the reporting between the victims they were related to and those that they weren't. Therefore, I think you are wrong to attribute the difference in reporting to a sense of apathy, you need to compare like-with-like.

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A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 02/06/2016 11:06

Just5minswithDacre

If the OP has something profound to say, why doesn't she just say it?

I hate this stupid po-faced vaguebooking shite.

There is literally no evidence for anything she is saying re media coverage.

She can't refer to one case that makes her point, has ignored every single substantive point anyone has made on the thread. She is obliquely referring to some moral fault on the part of the general public ( i.e. i wonder why) without just spitting out her position. Meanwhile she's practically dislocating her shoulder patting herself on the back over it.

Ok rowanhart why do you think that it's not a bigger story???? Please enlighten us instead of vaguely referring to something terribly wrong in the state of denmark?

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Rowanhart · 02/06/2016 18:01

I think your reading a lot more into my position that there and assuming quite a lot about my intentions here which are complete bollocks A11.

I was starting a discussion not setting out a stall or desiring salacious detail. That's why said, I wonder why.

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Rowanhart · 02/06/2016 18:03

I haven't been asked to refer to cases either, although I did include one is in the original post and subsequently, so where your last spewing of vitriol came from, I've no idea.

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Rowanhart · 02/06/2016 18:04

Thanks Dacre though...

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A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 04/06/2016 11:37

The case you mentioned is all over the news. Again, what outcry is missing that you think should be present?

What's your theory? Why is it?

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