Please do not urinate in the lift.

[MissHooliesCardigan]

I've just visited someone in a tower block. In the foyer, there is a notice written on Local Authority paper saying,
'PLEASE DO NOT URINATE IN THE LIFT OR STAIRWELL.
Residents or visitors should not urinate in the lift or stairwell. Doing so is in breach of your tenancy agreement'.

Do people actually need this spelled out?! If you are in the lift, you must either live there or be visiting someone who lives there and, presumably, has a toilet. It's not the first time I've seen these kind of notices. Is this some kind of weird territory marking thing?

[BirthdayBetty]

I lived in a tower block once, the lift and stairwells always smelt of piss 😷. When my neighbour got married we 'held' the lift to clean it and put down a dust sheet on the floor to protect her dress.

[Pettywoman]

Remember the old red phone boxes? They always stank of piss and fags.

[FeliciaJollygoodfellow]

Seriously where have you been that you've never been in a lift or stairwell that stank of piss?!

They don't put hose signs up in car parks but they bloody should....

[LurkingHusband]

What's the Broken Windows initiative?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

It's one of those so-obvious-why-are-we-even-talking-about-it things ...

Basically a view that peoples behaviour is influenced by their environment. So if a location looks uncared for, people will treat it badly. Coined by most policemens observations that the second a window is broken in a neighbourhood, the longer it takes to get fixed (if at all) the the quicker that place will decline.

Same for graffiti - if you leave it for all to see, people will assume the area is unpoliced, and enter a spiral of vandalism.

[MissHooliesCardigan]

What's the Broken Windows initiative?

[Piffpaffpoff]

Someone shat in one of the lifts at my work once. I mean, who DOES that?

[Arkwright]

My grandmothers flats have a lift. They regularly have piss, vomit, spit, spilt beer and even faeces a few months ago. It is an enclosed block so it must be one of the residents or their visitors.

[maggienolia]

We had a lift in our work building where someone decorated the walls with their bogies.
Filthy sods.
And someone left a poo in the corridor.

[Shannyfanny]

the alarm and locking the lift is a good idea if only it could be here, I no longer live in an estate but it was just disgusting plus people leaving rubbish on the floor so the foxes get at it, still happens now though because my neighbours believe junk mail and trash will just pick itself up.

[bigbluebus]

I had a friend who worked for the Post Office years ago. One of her jobs was to go around and empty the coin boxes in phone boxes. The coin was often wet - people not only piss in phone boxes but actually into the slot where the money went - could only be men! She had to count the money

[LurkingHusband]

I'm not advocating caning, but in general I wish UK politicians gave as much of a fuck about maintaining public places

Whatever happened to the Broken Windows initiative ? Did it ever get a chance in the UK ?

[allegretto]

Someone did a poo in our block's lift. Grim.

[HazelBite]

Why do people piss in lifts?
Its obviously the same people who piss on the floor beside the toilet in our office and also crapped on the floor.
This is an office full of "professional" people

[Totallypearshaped]

Theoretician, I think you'll find that the trip down town from Changai airport isn't quite as beautiful as first appears. Those flowering plants along the highway are planted in pots that can be moved to make a secondary runway system along the highway in case the airport is taken over by hostiles. There's an underlying military aspect to everything in Singapore.

Plain clothes police are all over the place in touristic Singapore, so yes whilst it's very safe, it's really more like a nanny state, on high alert..

I wonder did you take the metro out to the non touristic areas like Jurong, or north where they ship all the disabled poeple and people with Down's syndrome: it's a high rise tip, some 'pavements' not even paved.

Singapore is all ok and very nice and super duper if you're in the Central business district, or on orchard, but scratch a little bit, and go outside these areas and you find pissy lifts and shitty loos everywhere.

The "toilets of shame" and "lifts of shame" segment on the TV can be funny though. Not so funny are the public lashings, or the feeling of constant surveillance and central control.

[MissHooliesCardigan]

Maybe now that there are hardly any phone boxes, the phone box pissers have had to turn to lifts to pursue their 'hobby'.

[JillyTheDependableBoot]

I used to live in an ex-LA flat and there was constantly piss in the lift, even though it wasn't a high rise. I think it was kids playing outside and not wanting to go back in for a wee. Was fucking grim.

[Theoretician]

Mistake: you can import chewing gum, you just can't sell it there.

[Theoretician]

I'm not advocating caning, but in general I wish UK politicians gave as much of a fuck about maintaining public places as Singapore does. I'm not just talking about prevention of harm, on the positive side the drive from the airport in Singapore is stunning, with mile after mile of dual carriageway (highway?) planted with flowering bushes in the centre reservation. There are also lots of beautiful trees.

[Floggingmolly]

If you're skanky enough to piss in a lift; a polite notice asking you not to is unlikely to make much difference.

[TheFairyCaravan]

DS2 and I went to get in the lift in Primark once, but we couldn't because the cleaner was cleaning up after someone had taken a shit in there. 😷😷

It's the fastest lift known to man, and only goes up one floor, I still don't know how they managed it!

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

Urghhh I remember the smell in phone boxes!

[Theoretician]

That same link reminds me that you can also be fined for spitting, or not flushing a public lavatory. You also won't be able to buy chewing gum, as it's illegal to import it. (So you won't find it stuck to pavements, or anything else.)

Reading on, apparently there is mandatory caning for vandalism, including creating graffiti.

[whois]

OMg love the automatic lock in if urine is detected!

I went to do a viewing at a flat he other week - turned out to be in a not so low rise not so ex ex-local authority block (I'd thought it was in the low rise across the road).

Anyway the loft stank of piss. That's a 'no' from me.

[Theoretician]

In Singapore it is specifically against the law to urinate in a lift.

Obviously everyone hates an elevator that smells like urine, but Singapore officials really hate it. Some elevators are equipped with Urine Detection Devices. These UDDs can actually detect urine odor in elevators, which set off an alarm. Once this alarm goes off, the doors of the elevator close until the police arrive and arrest the perpetrator.

uk.businessinsider.com/absurd-laws-of-singapore-2012-6?r=US&IR=T

You can apparently also be fined $1000 if you litter.

Singapore is a clean and beautiful city. It also gives social housing a good name, as (from memory) about 70% of housing falls into that category. (And virtually all housing is high-rise.) The social housing high-rises are considerably nicer than their UK equivalents.

[ChicRock]

Gross.

If you're the type of person to urinate in a lift then I doubt a sign by the Local Authority would put you off, the people doing it can probably barely even read.