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Is she being unreasonable?

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evangelinelily · 13/02/2016 22:44

Is my mum being unreasonable and what should I do?

Background- myself, DH and 2 DCs have been I living really far away from DM for 7 years. We have a medium-sized dog.

So at the moment she is visiting us and hates the dog. She screams at him 10 times a day to get out and goes on and on about his hair. She says there is no need for him to be inside, he's a dog, will we get another one when he dies, she doesn't like her grandchildren being brought up in this environment and so on. There is some history with DM/fall-outs etc so we kind of just ignore/laugh it off or say "soon you'll be back in your own lovely dog-free home!" and such.

Yesterday however, whilst she was screaming "OUT! OUT! DOGS NAME GET OUT!" DH who is already in the process of putting him out the back door with his collar said to her "you don't need to shout at him, you can just tell him". So she went into a bit of a huff and was quiet over lunch then disappeared to her room. We hadn't really clicked that it was the dog comment as it seemed such a nothing but knew something was up. About an hour later she comes downstairs and basically says what's that about DH saying that to her. I said he's probably sick of it re. dog. She then goes on about how disrespected she feels, DH told her off, was talking to her like she's 5, she isn't DC1 and shouldn't be spoken to like that, it just makes her feel like she doesn't want to be here, is not welcome, unwanted etc. Retreats to her room. I'm Not happy with this as had a really shit time a couple of years ago with her huffing in her room for days so try to speak and sort it out. She's not interested, doesn't want to speak to DH to let him apologise. Her husband is joining next week and they had always planned to travel somewhere in the region for their own holiday but is now saying that as soon as he gets here they're leaving and will stay away for his entire 3 week trip and even talking about amending their return flight so that they don't have to stop here on the way back. She then asks if he can please stay here for a couple of days to recover from his long haul before they leave and then thanks me when I say of course. All in a tone that suggests I'm doing them a big favour by allowing him to stay which isn't the case at all. He's a great guy and we like him. This exchange was all via text. We all haven't spoke since lunchtime and it's now early morning. I think this is all a bit pathetic. Is she being unreasonable? Or am I? Or is DH? Either way, need to find a solution for moving forward. I'm not happy about her huffing and moping around the house, hiding in her room, not talking to us. It's horrible tension for my DC to be around.

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evangelinelily · 15/02/2016 11:34

Acrossthepond funny that you mention about DCs- last night oldest was in that fed-up, tired mood where everything was annoying her and she just said "I'm just not happy about this mummy" which she'd obviously overheard. So she is already picking things up. Today DM tried to bring it up again, she just won't let it go. After a few minutes heated discussion I cut her off but deep-down she's still really 'offended' and it's irritating the hell out of her. In future I think we just need to ignore these kinds of things because she will never change.

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AcrossthePond55 · 15/02/2016 15:00

Your decision, of course, but IMO ignoring it isn't in the best interests of the children. As adults we can eye-roll and ignore someone like your mum, but the children are going to absorb her behaviour and it may have a negative effect on them. Anything from emulating (as it appears your oldest already did) to internalizing blame. Children seeing poor behaviour/tantrums in an adult and that adult not being pulled up on the behaviour will at the least give them the idea that such behaviour is acceptable. And how are you going to 'ignore' such behaviour when it (inevitably) starts being directed at your children?

Not saying it will, just that you should consider what you will do if it does.

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Nanny0gg · 15/02/2016 15:13

Her behaviour has been appalling (would she have done it in front of her DH?) and I would be reminding her of it the next time she suggests a visit.

I think your DH was very restrained.

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Oldraver · 15/02/2016 15:22

I dont think your DH needs to apologise no matter what your DM says.

I think what you need to remember with people like your Mum is that if it wasn't this thing over the dog/way your husband spoke to her it would be something else. There will always be some supposed slight that will lead to a drama so she can then huff and puff

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evangelinelily · 15/02/2016 15:46

Oldraver, you've hit the nail on the head, if it wasn't the dog it would have been something else. She has now said the we should reach an agreement where if DH is unhappy about something related to her he should be discussing it with me because "I don't like being told off at my age" (yes we know, you've said it 50 times....)

She absolutely does not act like this when her DH is around. She'd be mortified if we told him.

Thank you across the pond I really must think about the future relationships my children will have with her. The way she sometimes speaks to oldest/the bossiness/demands she has off her are already starting to feel a bit uneasy. It's so difficult to figure out what's going on cos she'll be great with them, misses them, spoils them etc. but will do all these old school parenting things like bribing, threatening, change the goalposts without warning etc and expects a compliant 2.5 year old!

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gleekster · 15/02/2016 16:23

To be honest evangeline I feel really sorry for your husband. So often on here we get posters with awful MILS and their husbands/partners are saying "Oh just ignore her" "She will never change" which is what you appear to be saying?

Then you get reams of posts saying "You do not have a MIL problem, you have a DH/DP problem."

Do you think there are any comparisons in your own situation?

Also - what would DDog say if he could? Grin

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Katedotness1963 · 15/02/2016 16:32

Is she staying with you now? Where is she texting from?

I don't see a need for your husband to apologise, he didn't yell, did he, just explained the dog didn't need to be shouted at?

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WhyCantIuseTheNameIWant · 15/02/2016 16:35

Get your 5 year old to loudly ask...

How old is granny?

How many minutes does granny need on the naughty step?

Even I can see granny is being a baby!

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LaContessaDiPlump · 15/02/2016 16:37

Your DM is furious at the perceived lack of respect from your DH - people like this (IME) grew up at a time where old = right and young = wrong. My own mother had a LOT of difficulty admitting fault and she was wrong a lot unless the accusation of fault was made in the gentlest, most caring, most tactful way. Obviously this wasn't always possible, so arguments happened.

I don't have any advice but you have my sympathy!!

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HoneyDragon · 15/02/2016 16:41

She should feel unwelcome, she is behaving as a utterly appalling guest in your home.

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longlivetheking · 15/02/2016 16:41

You have my sympathies, my DM is very similar.
I don't have any helpful advice sadly. We only argued this morning due to her being jealous of the relationship my MIL has with the kids (despite her having every opportunity to have the same relationship). It's bloody upsetting and frustrating isn't it? ThanksWine

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firesidechat · 15/02/2016 16:50

Sometimes I think I must live in a parallel universe because I cannot imagine anyone I know behaving like this shock

If it wasn't for the behaviour of my daughter's partner's mother I wouldn't believe it either. Lots of emotional blackmail and crying down the phone ruined Christmas for my daughter. I would be ashamed to behave like that to my children.

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AcrossthePond55 · 15/02/2016 16:52

if DH is unhappy about something related to her he should be discussing it with me because "I don't like being told off at my age"

She wants it this way because she knows that DH will confront her and tell her to knock it off but that you won't. She is expecting you to 'soothe DH over' so she can carry on. Don't, please don't. Unless your DH wants you to handle her on his behalf don't cut him off at the knees by telling him to basically put up with her shit. That's 'disempowering' him in his own house. Plus then you'll have both of them unloading on you and you do NOT need that!

As far as her future relationship with your children, trust your gut, Evie (may I call you Evie? Grin). I think your instincts are pretty right on. And don't think of what she did as 'old school parenting'. It isn't. It's called just plain 'bad parenting'. And if your mum did those things to you then she was a bad parent. My mum was an 'old school parent' (as I expect I was a fair bit of the time myself) and did none of those things. She was loving and fair, strict but consistent.

I'm not sure how far apart her visits are. But when this one is over I'm hoping you and DH will have time to decompress and plan your 'strategy' before the next one. You've spoken about her lovely partner. Can you time a visit for when he can be there the whole time? Does he know 'how she is' and could you enlist his help?

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Atenco · 15/02/2016 17:17

Some mothers do try to drive a wedge between their children and their partners, I have seen it happen, please, please be very careful here and consider your husband's needs.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 15/02/2016 18:56

"She absolutely does not act like this when her DH is around. She'd be mortified if we told him."
There's your answer. Tell him. Please, tell him. Maybe raise it with him as 'mum's behaviour before you got here was really odd; screaming at the dog, and when DH politely asked her not to she went into a sulk! For days! Is she OK? Have there been any other 'incidents'? I know she's getting on a bit - she's been harping on and on about 'at my age' - you don't think there's anything she should see a doctor for do you?'

Yes it is quite passive aggressive, but honestly, you should not ignore her behaviour and you and your family should not have to put up with it.

I'd also consider insisting that he accompanies her on every visit. And make it clear to her why. (And him.)

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sonjadog · 15/02/2016 21:00

Next time she brings it or anything else up, I suggest you tell her that when her DH arrives, the four of you can sit down and discuss how she has been behaving and what has been going on.

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Nanny0gg · 15/02/2016 21:48

I would be ashamed to behave like that to my children.

My children would very quickly tell me my fortune if I tried anything along those lines!

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evangelinelily · 15/02/2016 22:54

Thank you all so much for hour helpful replies. Strategies definitely needed. Thanks again

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