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AIBU?

To think a toilet should flush a normal sized poo on the first flush?

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AlexPKeaton · 31/01/2016 11:20

We are American and new-ish to the UK so I need some perspective. There are a 3 toilets in our rented house, and not one of them seems to have the ability to dispose of a normal sized poo on the first flush, and quite often not on the second, third, or fourth flush. We do flush mid-poo when we can but it's not always possible, especially for our small kids --who produce surprisingly enormous poops.-- All of this flushing is appallingly wasteful of water, and leads to the disgusting experience of regularly encountering leftover poo when going to the bathroom. It's unpleasant for us and mortifying when we have guests!

If it matters, it is a terraced house, old but refurbished on the inside. Our rent is over£5K/month, which I understand isn't exorbitant by London standards, but I have to think it should entitle us to fully functioning toilets. Actually I think ^everyone^ is entitled to that.

My DH thinks the problem comes from the main pipes in the street so the landlord can't do anything, and I will sound like a spoiled American if I bring it up. But I can't imagine everyone else just lives like this.

AIBU?

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TweeterandtheMonkeyman · 31/01/2016 11:51

I dunno we had to pay 3k per month in Surrey (we weren't bothered as the company were paying..may be the same for the OP?) in a house which incidentally had rubbish water pressure and weakly flushing loos. So there you go. not sure what point was

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ElderlyKoreanLady · 31/01/2016 11:53

But mentioning that you pay 5k a month in rent for a terraced house is a weird thing to mention when your gripe is that the toilet flush isn't doing its job very well Hmm however much rent a person pays, a properly functioning toilet can be expected.

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stargirl1701 · 31/01/2016 11:54

Modern toilets are designed to hold 6 litres of water. This is far less than before - new EU regs. The design has changed to narrow the u bend to increase the pressure.

It doesn't work.

You will need a bucket/jug to pour extra water into the bowl as you flush.

When we change our bathroom, we intend to install a vintage toilet.

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UmbongoUnchained · 31/01/2016 11:56

Giant American poo? American things do tend to be bigger Grin

Your rent is obscene btw and you should look into that.

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Lightbulbon · 31/01/2016 11:57

Yes some toilets here are shite

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LBOCS2 · 31/01/2016 12:01

For z1 London, the rent is not obscene, by the way.

This was the cheapest terraced house in SW1V, which covers not even the 'best' areas, for example.

http://zo.op.la/p33Pco

And to be fair, if I was spending £5k a month, I'd want properly flushing loos.

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TattyDevine · 31/01/2016 12:02

I'd definitely be checking your cisterns and whether they are full, and whether they have a brick in there or some other water saving device if you haven't already.

If not can you stash a 1 litre jug in one of the cupboards and add a few litres of water to the bowl before you do the first flush? That should help a bit. You can have a designated "pooing" toilet (not always practical with kids) so you don't have to have a jug in every bathroom?

I'd definitely take it up with the landlord - just mention that the toilets don't seem to be very effective in their flushing mechanism and is there anything that can be done to make them more effective on the first flush. He/she should know what you mean by that without you having to spell it out hopefully!

Ignore any anti-American digs about your diet btw on here. Welcome to the UK!

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 31/01/2016 12:02

Surely just another example of how everything is bigger State side? Which is fine until you bring it over here and start trying to flush it in our nice, British loos.

But yes, a fully functioning toilet is the least you can expect regardless of how much rent you're paying.

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ClashCityRocker · 31/01/2016 12:05

If I was paying 5k per month I'd be wanting a toilet that flushed.

Some modern toilets are just shit. My pils never flushes properly, even tissue takes two goes.

I discovered this when I broke one of my cardinal rules and went for a number two there. It was during a NYE party and there was a queue outside. I was actually debating throwing the offending item out of the window.

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VaticanAssassin · 31/01/2016 12:11

£60,000 a year in rent?!?

I think King Kong dumps are the least of your problems Grin

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Lemonski · 31/01/2016 12:11

We had this problem in our last house (rented) which was an older style house (with little modernisation). The downstairs loo worked fine and became the poo loo!! Grin

The upstairs loo was pathetic for flushing poo or anything more than 1 square of loo paper. Not only that the cistern used to take 15 minutes to refill, so reflushing was not practical unless you had 45 minutes spare because on average it took 3 flushes to get rid of anything!! It was an old fashioned large cistern too, not one of these modern crap water saving things.

I called out the maintenance company several times. Every plumber that came out said it was because the water was coming from a cold water tank in the roof with little pressure and not direct from the mains water. Downstairs loo worked fine because gravity helped. We did live in a low water pressure area, filling the bath took an age too. One plumber played a round with the cistern so it filled up/took in a little more water in the hope that would help but, it did little and added a few extra minutes to the refill time!!

We have recently moved to a modernish house with a very modern bathroom and modern wc with the water saving cisterns. There are 2 buttons. The mini flush (the smaller front button on my loos) is an absolute waste of time. It releases little more than a pathetic splash. Pressing the 2 buttons gives a more substantial flush but I dont feel it flushes as well as a good old fashioned loo. The cystern is at least half the size of that in our old 1950's house. I have visions of poo etc hanging around in the pipes until the next flush. It feels like its just been shoved around the corner of the U bend thing and there is sits. With a more powerful bigger flush I never thought about it much but it felt like it had been flushed away, I just dont feel its been flushed very far at all in this house - hence finding myself pressing the flush every time I walk past the bathroom. Definately not water saving at all.

We did have an unpleasant poo incident a few weeks back . No one in the family is admitting it was them but a large poo was reluctant to shift so after several flush attempts I used a bucket of water which did the trick. You could try this but I totally get its not how we expect to live in 2016.

I would perhaps ask the landlord to investigate and send a plumber out to investigate, or source a tarditional cistern aand ask for it to be fitted in the name of going retro!!

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Flossyfloof · 31/01/2016 12:14

Why are you doing it in the downstairs loo?
Why don't you check before you leave the room?

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insan1tyscartching · 31/01/2016 12:29

Fairy liquid and a jug of warm water will move resistant poos (speaks form experience) leave for a minute or two and then flush.Repeat if necessary.

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StickyToffeePuddingAndCustard · 31/01/2016 12:34

£5K is a bargain Grin This 4 bed flat is £32.5k per month to rent...

misses point of thread from shock of finding a flat with a £32.5K a month rent pricetag

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StickyToffeePuddingAndCustard · 31/01/2016 12:37

Oooops [embarrassed] forgot link...
www.zoopla.co.uk/to-rent/details/39350766?search_identifier=50932fc344e9566f8595966fb8a8457a#SVyLqGe5fuH3aD1S.97

...but then found £108k per month rent and need to have a lie down. Don't forget to ask if the toilet flushes before signing the tenancy...

www.zoopla.co.uk/to-rent/details/39251913?search_identifier=50932fc344e9566f8595966fb8a8457a#XkVLDwvZ0PwIodg8.97

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rookiemere · 31/01/2016 12:37

flossyfloof - I didn't realise that poos were only meant to be done in some toilets and not others, surely the whole purpose of a toilet is that it takes both number 1s and number twos?

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ABetaDad1 · 31/01/2016 12:47

£5k is not a lot of rent for London.

I was paying £2.5 k for a 2 bed fat in 1999/2000. Admittedly it was a large flat with a dining room in Belgravia but that was still 15 years ago and house prices have more than doubled since then in London since.

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Lemonski · 31/01/2016 12:48

Yuk - that 32k flat to rent is not very pleasing on the eye. I mean its clean and well kept rather opulant but the decor s pretty revolting in most parts!!

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Lemonski · 31/01/2016 12:50

The other one at £108k a month is rather austere looking. Not homely much at all.

Sorry to deviate OP!!

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StormyBlue · 31/01/2016 12:50

I understand OP, my parents house which I grew up in has this problem, so can vouch that it is a thing. There is something up with their pipes, they groan and creek constantly, so it could be that. I also experienced this problem (but not as bad) when living on the 4th (top) floor of an apartment building - we assumed it was to do with water pressure then.

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MyNewBearTotoro · 31/01/2016 12:54

Have you checked inside the cisterns? Maybe the previous owners wanted to save water and so inserted something to reduce the amount of water per flush.

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Seeyounearertime · 31/01/2016 12:55

why has OP not updated? i need closure on this tale of giant shites and expensive, but not expensive, rental property.

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Artandco · 31/01/2016 13:00

We pay £2k a month for a 1 bed flat

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FaceTheFace · 31/01/2016 13:06

I'm an immigrant who's lived here for ten years. Remarks about 'giant American King Kong poos' make me feel really unwelcome. Wouldn't it be socially unacceptable to make similar comments about Indian or Chinese immigrants? It is draining to listen to it on a regular basis.

Good luck with your toilets, OP... Sounds annoying. And my sympathies for having to worry about the 'spoiled American' perception, just for wanting a toilet that flushes!

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AlexPKeaton · 31/01/2016 13:08

Thank you so much for all of this great plumbing advice. I think I will make chili for dinner so we can test out the various suggestions Wink. As it happens, the toilets are actually not that new, and they have regular flush levers rather than the two buttons. I do appreciate the explanation about the buttons, though. I was flummoxed by those the first time we were here!

Re: the rent, I agree it is insane, but it is a temporary relocation and my DH's employer is paying the rent. For various reasons they really needed him at short notice and needed him to be in a particular location, and part of the deal was that they would put us up in something roughly comparable to what we have at home. To actually do that would have been way more than £5K, as we live in a fairly cheap area at home, but we found a middle ground. There is NO way we could remotely afford to pay that much ourselves, and if the employer would have offered to give DH the money directly we would have found a cheaper place. But they didn't, so here we are. It is indeed a lovely house in an lovely neighborhood, and the rent is fair market value. If it makes a difference, I had to leave my job to move here and it may or may not be there when we get back.

I only mentioned the rent to illustrate that we would expect everything to work more or less flawlessly, and that the landlord could easily afford to fix the issue if it is possible to do so.

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