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AIBU?

To be upset that friend couldn't be more supportive?

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camimillie · 08/11/2015 14:35

After telling a friend that I was planning to try for a baby in the New Year, she openly laughed.

Her reasons for doing so are that I live in a small flat, plan to work full time and don't have any support and so therefore will find it all too hard.

AIBU to think she really should not voice such opinions? I have been friends with her for over ten years now: we worked together in our first jobs but she is a bit older than me as she started the role after her children had started school.

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Ineedtimeoff · 08/11/2015 20:26

I'm a single parent by choice too. Never regretted it. I really don't think there is an issue with living in a small flat and working. Lots of parents work and live in flats. Do you really have to be a middle class couple to be good parents? What a silly idea.

I've never understood either all those comments about how difficult it is, especially doing it on your own. Don't know why people think it's ok to lecture you about that. I never lecture my friends. I may talk things through with them but I would never be so insulting as to laugh at them or lecture.

It's as kewcumber says some people just never come to terms with your choices and that's ok. I've also found that people that I thought might not be ok with it have actually been really accepting and have been a great support.

I couldn't have a friend like that in my life.

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expatinscotland · 08/11/2015 20:57

'It amazed me the people who took it upon themselves to lecture a mid-30's professional woman about how hard having a baby is. Once from a middle aged man who had three children. If its so fecking hard why didn't you stop at one confused

Or is it because I'm single that people felt entitled to comment? 10 years on they've stopped yammering on about it thankfully.'

This ^

I always go by the Tibetan saying, 'A friend's good fortune is a blessing.'

If I cannot see it as such, then I am not a friend.

Cannot believe it's been 10 years, Kew! Fantastic!

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trian · 11/11/2015 16:27

there are lots more things i could say about this but i don't want to say anything that would identify me so I'll keep it vague.
OP, I know you may have done tonnes of research into this but I'll make the following points anyway in case they help anyone else who's reading:
When I looked into IUI vs IVF, IVF was better value for money (taking into consideration the chance of success).
Re. what another poster said about home insemination....if the sperm is live, the "father" is as legally the father as if he were your boyfriend etc - it's a loophole in the law that allows for live insemination, which is why the rules around it are so daft. You can inseminate yourself with sperm that you receive frozen (you defrost first) and depending on where it's from, the donor might be anonymous.
None of these things are necessarily reasons not to do it tho.

On my journey to this point I've read quite a bit on the net and communicated with quite a few parents with planned kids who were single at the time they planned and got their kids. I've found that the vast majority are not single by choice at all, I really do wish there was a better way to describe my situation than "single parent by choice" - any ideas? How do the other posters in this situation feel about this?

I do think there is a practical worry from a lot of people regarding single parents, for example if we die, who looks after the kid(s) (although a lot of parents in this situation will have sorted that out by agreeing with someone that they'll take over and putting this in their will). I'm a bit tired now and i don't think i can express myself clearly about the other issues that i think prompt some of the negative attitudes towards people in our situation......but I do think society needs to address some of the reasons why it is so hard to find a partner if you want one eg closure of local pubs due to supermarket alcohol pricing.

I'd rather struggle on my own than live a lie. Hopefully internet dating will get me a decent man at a later stage! (or i will construct one in my lab like Dr. Frankenstein did - easy peasy!).
Good luck OP

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MidniteScribbler · 11/11/2015 23:06

I also chose to have DS as a single parent, using IUI. The hardest thing I've ever done, and also the best. I kept it quiet until I was actually pregnant, so there were no discussions about whether or not it was the right choice. If someone wasn't going to support me, then they weren't someone I wanted in my life, or my son's life.

I really do wish there was a better way to describe my situation than "single parent by choice" - any ideas? How do the other posters in this situation feel about this?

I just call myself a parent. I don't feel the need for labels, especially ones where people seem to think it is ok to look down on you. I am friends with a whole group of "SMCs" and we are all professional women with a degree (we have a doctor, a pyschologist, several teachers, a lawyer, etc), all but one owns their own home (the other rents by choice), and everyon has done more than enough research about the path they have taken. Certainly not the silly old stereotype of a young woman on benefits who got knocked up at a party. We even have some half siblings in the group as the mum's used the same donor, so the children will grow up knowing each other.

I'm also not shy about my son's method of conception. I made the decision when he was born that I would never allow him to feel that how he was brought in to this world is somehow shameful or less than other children. I'll open say that he is donor conceived, and answer (reasonable! questions about it. It's actually pretty amazing how many women admit that they have considered going down this path once they find someone they feel they can genuinely talk to about it.

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 11/11/2015 23:23

Maybe I'm strange prepared to be told I am but why do people insist on telling the world and his wife they are trying for a baby. Me and DP have not told anyone IRL that we're ttc.

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Kewcumber · 11/11/2015 23:27

I have only ever used the term "single parent by choice" on MN!

Expat - the process has been 10 years but I celebrated meeting DS 9 years ago this month and its his 10th borthday at the end of the month if you can beleive it! Shock

And you probably haven't noticed buried in adoption that he and I are planning a return trip to Kaz next year - I may even be persuaded to blog about it... (or persuaded not to!)

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Kewcumber · 11/11/2015 23:29

lighthouse I'm not sure OP told the world and his wife - just her two friends. It's different when you're single - if you're relying on clinic visits then you might need some extra support and you don't have a partner to support you - a little support from a friend of family member is very helpful, or even some moral support. Though in the OP's case not so much maybe.

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GiddyOnZackHunt · 11/11/2015 23:38

I suspect of you'd sprung it on her, her initial reaction was to think how difficult it could be as a lone parent with no support and a ft career. And society does condition us to think sex = baby. Or an established relationship that requires a helping hand = baby.
You aren't doing anything wrong but it's not 'mainstream' yet so people do odd reactions.

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trian · 15/11/2015 20:10

lighthouse kewcumber is right, it's different when you're single, lucky you for finding a partner, some of us haven't been that lucky (tho I acknowledge that there are some people actually want to have kids on their own) and we generally need more support than just ourselves.

I think with the way things are going, there are only going to be more people in our position (although the number of men will be small as it's so expensive for them to have children by surrogacy and the UK doesn't really have surrogacy laws, the legal system has a head-in-the-sand approach to it, but luckily they have equality in terms of adoption/fostering) so the rest of the world will have to come to term with it.

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