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How do you stay on top of everything with kids? Really how?!

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FlyingDucks · 22/06/2015 11:14

I want to start a thread that will be full of useful ideas and tips for becoming, and staying, on top of everything when you have kids. I know similar thread have been done before, but I'm in need of some new inspiration to get us through the Summer holidays and into a new and very busy school year in September.

I have 2 DC that are not yet at school, and 2 DC in infants school. We live in a 3 bed with no outside space and a tiny kitchen.

While we are lucky to have what we have, I still find it challenging sharing a bedroom with our 1 year old, and having to constantly manage a 2 and a 5 year old sharing a bedroom and toys. My 5 year old needs/loves his own space and quiet time alone. He hardly ever has the chance for this sharing a bedroom with his brother.

These are my 'problem' areas that I want to get on top of. If you have similar issues or are one of those completely organised people that I aspire to be like, please come and share your thoughts!

  1. Our kitchen is a constant mess. I could spend an hour in there 3 times a day to keep it spotless. How do you keep your sink free from dirty dishes always? My oven and fridge hardly ever get a proper clean - probably once every 6 months for the oven and it's always dirty ...


  1. Toys are everywhere, always! My DC's bedrooms can go from tidy to bomb site in 20 minutes. We only have few toys and they all have a place. DC have 4 small accessible toy boxes each. But still toys are always muddled up with no one having a 'full set' of something to play with.


  1. I never, ever find time to clean all the hidden spots (as highlighted in another current post!). Behind furniture, outsides of bins etc never get done. Where do you find the time? I am shattered by the evening, and really don't want to give up a Saturday or Sunday to do it.


  1. House admin/banking/paying bills etc. When do you get the time to do all this? I still have school photos from last year I haven't yet ordered :(


Please come and share your tips for success, or just come and commiserate with me.
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misssmilla1 · 25/06/2015 14:40

all mothers find it difficult and tiring, but that's what being a mother is all about.
most of us struggle but we still manage.. YOU HAVE TOO.
we chose to have our children so its our responsibility to make sure we have a well kept environment for our kids.


or, you could divide the housework and childcare equally with your partner, to make it a workable solution, instead of taking it all on yourself. Just because you're the mum, doesn't mean you automatically get to do the majority of the work.

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wiltingfast · 25/06/2015 12:47

Jesus bee!!!! 5h sleep a night? I'd be such s shit mother on 5h sleep! This has been tried and proven alas Grin

Fwiw I try to keep my house niceish for me, no one else gives a shit.

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beedeepullen · 24/06/2015 21:57

I think you should ask a friend or family member or even the children's father to take the kids out for a few hours once a week.
this way you can give your house a good clean from top to bottom making sure all dirt is erased and you have enough time to clean the oven and fridge which may I add is a breeding ground for bacteria...

if you can do this and give your house a good scrub at least once a week then all you have to do is basically keep on top of things for the rest of the week.

get all of your children in a permanent bed time routine. late enough so you can spend a little time with them but definitely early enough so that you can get done what you need to get done.

all mothers find it difficult and tiring, but that's what being a mother is all about.
most of us struggle but we still manage.. YOU HAVE TOO.
we chose to have our children so its our responsibility to make sure we have a well kept environment for our kids.

I have a new born and a disabled daughter yet I make sure everything is perfect for them waking up every morning.
I have 5 hours sleep every night and that's all I go on because their needs come first.

there are no weekends off in our house.
every day is like ground hog day.
up, tidy, ready, shopping, cook, tidy, bed
day in day out.

you should try get as much done on a weekend to because you don't have to rush about getting the kids ready for school so you should have more time to clean.

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Melonfool · 24/06/2015 21:28

It will be clear to most that I am a lazy arse, and I have never seen the point of making a duvet bed. I just leave it. dp makes it sometimes but it's irrelevant to me if it's made or not.
I also don't open the bedroom curtains, just get up, dress, leave the room. Then later go back, undress, get in bed. At no point am I in the room when having the curtains open would be necessary so I just leave them closed. dp opens them, but they are in his side of the bed anyway.

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Pointlessfan · 24/06/2015 19:50

I've decided to start the "if it takes less than 5 minutes" idea and since I got in from work I've vacuumed and mopped the kitchen floor, picked up crap from all round the house and binned it, emptied the kitchen bin, wiped off a mark on the side of the bath that's been annoying me for days, put away some washing, put another load on and wiped down the fronts of the kitchen cupboards as well as the usual cooking dinner and loading the dishwasher. If I can keep this up I might end up with a clean house!
In the middle of all this DH arrived home and made me a cuppa to which my mum who was here commented, "poor DH waiting on you when he's just got in from work". Miraculously she is still alive after that remark!

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fabby40 · 24/06/2015 16:26

Marking my place to read later. I feel your pain op.

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Lioninthesun · 24/06/2015 16:18

It's interesting about making beds - we had to air beds at school (while we ate breakfast and then make them afterwards) but I read this and just make them if I have time now bedbugs don't like unmade beds

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keeptothewhiteline · 24/06/2015 16:15

alseb- I always turn down duvets- open the window and leave them like that as long as I can.
The body loses a lot of moisture during the night, making the beds in the morning simply traps in the moisture.
I like allowing them to air as much as possible.

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LeopardIsTheNewBlack · 24/06/2015 15:46

I consider organizing a two part project. First, you need to walk through your house with a pen and notepad and write down everything that needs to be tackled, room for room. Then you can break it down into smaller projects, so instead of " sort kitchen" it would be " sort all five kitchen drawers " " throw out old plates and cups" and so on. This way you can pick and choose projects daily as little or as much you like. For example you can sort a drawer when waiting for the kettle to boil.
Once you have finally got the whole house organized ( which will take at least a month) then the second part is creating a routine to stay on top of things.
I use small plastic stackable bins to store stuff and label things too. I would put those games and sets with lots of bits into ziplock bags and write the contents on it. I've used over the door hanging shoe organizers to create extra space in my cupboards and used them to everything from belts and jewelry to cleaning supplies.

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unlucky83 · 24/06/2015 15:08

I air beds all day every day - or rather the DCs do cos at their age I'm not going to straighten them and they don't Grin ...(I do do my bed most days though)

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alseb · 24/06/2015 14:37

Re making beds as soon as you get up - I was always taught that you should let them air before remaking them? Does anyone else do this?

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CookieDoughKid · 24/06/2015 12:32

Hear hear sapat. Too right!!

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CQ · 24/06/2015 11:27

Attagirl Sapat Grin

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Sapat · 24/06/2015 10:59

I have 3 kids (7,4,1) and I work full time. DH and I rarely argue but last night he was a moron. He told me off because the middle child helped himself to a yoghurt drink that was best before 17 May. Apparently this was my fault because clearing out the fridge is apparently my responsibility. Yeah right, told him to fuck off and left him to do the washing up. Still haven't spoken to him. We live in a small (but very nice) 3 bed terrace with a tiny kitchen too and a tiny fridge. The house is always messy and not fantastically clean. Tough. I don't have a cleaner, nor a nanny and the children are young and modern houses are pityfully small. And I don't care that his mum (who never worked full time in her life and didn't work when the children were young) has a massive boring house devoid of character in tip top condition. She spends all her life cleaning to the point that she doesn't have time to see her grandchildren more than 3 times a year despite living an hour away because she is too busy. Whereas me, I am a well rounded, interesting individual. Who expects DH to lend a hand with household stuff, and if he doesn't, then please shut the fuck up.

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TeaAndCake · 24/06/2015 10:12

Can't claim to be super organised but I have recently put all the children's school/nursery paperwork and party invitations into a thin file with a section for each child and a section at the back for all the school/nursery holiday calendars.

I also make a note on everything in the file with the date I replied and cheque number. When the event has come and gone it can just be pulled out and put in the recycling bin. I do find that it's best to just reply/deal with it straight away otherwise it gets forgotten.

We also put everything on the iPad diary which syncs to the home computer, DH's work laptop and both our iPhones so it can always be seen by everyone.

Don't ask about cleaning though, house is always a tip. I keep on top of the laundry but the rest of it pffft.

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Trurouge · 24/06/2015 08:32

With four kids aged between 14 and 3 and one on the way I aim for a complete gut of 1 room a day along with the daily chores like reloading the dishwasher and putting a load of washing in. Ironing also has a designated day, with 6 in the house it can be a full days task. I finish 'work' at 7pm. Everyone has a cut off at work so why shouldn't i? Anything that didn't get done rolls over to the next day.

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FluffyCubs · 24/06/2015 08:15
  1. I put uniforms out, bags in car and toothbrushes in downstairs toilet.....I also bathe my kids at night and while they're in bath I clean bathroom, do my own stuff (face, nails, moisturizer etc). In the morning we basically have time to get up and go which is invaluable as my kids are shite sleepers and I'm often knackered in the morning. I get dressed while they're having their breakfast. Telly allowed if they're fully dressed and teeth done.


  1. While they're eating evening meal, I put prepare our dinner and stick in oven, normally it's ready by the time they're in bed. I do everything on a lowish heat.


For the rest, I time myself using radio four.....so women's hour is the time when I clean kitchen and get washing ironing done. At night when we go upstairs for baths etc I take up the Hoover and do a quick whizz about. I online order monthly but stop after school most days to collect dinner stuff....this actually stops food waste.

Basically, once were downstairs, we stay down and vice versa
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Yarp · 24/06/2015 06:56

My answer: I wouldn't, with 4 children. That's why I only had 2. 2 pre-schoolers alone nearly sent me round the bend.

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Ashbeeee · 24/06/2015 06:27

Yes to all of the above, but only if the mess drives you mad.

And train the kids, even from tiny, to clear up after themselves 'tidy up time' from 18months old is very do-able, as is putting shoes/coats away/fetching them when needed. Get the bigger kids to supervise tidy up time whilst dinner is being prepared. Train your DH to do 'tidy up time' as well (but maybe not call it that for him as he may not enjoy being patronised!)

A 5yo can pull a quilt up in the morning and put dirty clothes in the washing basket. And if the toys have already been put away (as above) the floor is Hoover-able and you won't 'Lego' your feet.

Can't stress enough about de cluttering the small kitchen (do you really need that smoothie maker???? And 20 mugs, most of which are chipped? ) In our teeny one we had shelves rather than cupboards , so everything is off the surface (easy clean, more workspace and looks so much bigger) and you had to keep the shelves tidy (so no unnecessary crap). Added bonus that you don't bash yr head on open cupboard doors or have to do that ridiculous limbo past a door someone else has opened maneouvre, . IKEA lack ones are v cheap and sturdy. Shelves open up a space to make it look bigger as they are not as deep as cupboards and they can come lower down the wall than cupboards, so better use of space. You can paint cheap white emulsion behind to make space seem bigger too. And if you have bumpy walls it looks all rustic Grin If you have any ceiling space, a hanging pan rack is brilliant. It looks all chef-y even with crap pans and saves cupboard space. That's a weekend's work there , but transformative. And it looks v groovy.

What I will say is though, having teenaged kids now, their natural habitat is pig sty so all this good work and training will be for nothing once they hit 12/13. Smile

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Momagain1 · 24/06/2015 00:05

Im not sure how realistic toy no-go zones are with 4 DC in a 3 bed house. we have a small house and this really wouldn't work for us.

It is realistic, but it takes a LOT of effort on your part. My mom had 4 born between 1963 and 1970, and in those days a 3 bed house for that size family was the norm in US suburbs.

There wasnt much childrens TV, so no reason to be anywhere but our rooms, where the toys were. We played in our bedrooms, or outside (since it was in Florida, and a modern suburb with big gardens, outside was a more reliable option than in the UK, so there's that.) We were expected to limit what was brought out to play with and expected to put it away before moving on to the next. So, if we were playing house with the dress up box and toy kitchen stuff, we finished with that before pulling out the building toys we owned (tinkertoys, did they exists in the UK?) My earliest memories must be about age four, and I remember incidents both knowing to clean up in between and doing so, and knowing that since we hadnt, we would have to as soon as mom came in and saw it. And deciding to just skip it until then!

no anything on the floor in the kitchen is common sense for safety reasons. no toys in the dining room you have to go through to get to the kitchen, except things like playdough or art stuff, which could ONLY be used there, and then cleaned up again. toys in the front room, very rarely, and again, cleaned up at end of the play session. Often, the youngest baby was in a playpen in there whenever we were playing with things he was too little for, that he might choke on or break.

Up until oldest DB began school, playtime was organised much like a nursery, we werent left to our own devices all morning, interrupted to grab some lunch, then sent to wade back through the piles of toys all afternoon. From an early age there was a schdule to the day. Breakfast, tidying and dressing, playtime for a while, then a clean up and another playtime where we would be directed into a different sort of play. Maybe first it would be outside and the second would be sitting to do art. Maybe first would be dress up boxes and then outdoors. Then a clean up and then lunch. And then naps, or as we were bigger, quiet time in our room with books or whatever other quiet thing we could each play with solo for about an hour.(hoping we would fall asleep of course). Then playtime and a cleanup before dinner. One morning each week we went to the library. One morning we went grocery shopping. Both those days, we all had to get in the car fairly early to drive Daddy to work so mom could have the car. We might stop in to see a grandmother or aunt before the library opened, but I know we went right to the grocery store from dropping him.

i am sure between the days we had the car, and the days we did art, she probably had a weekly schedule but I dont remember it as such. i dont recall her playing with us very much, she was a 1960s housewife, so there was all that scratch cooking and baking to do, and laundry to wash and hang and iron, and she made a lot of dresses for her and I, and some of my brothers clothes too. She usually did art with us, or did her embroidery then, and might sit down for a quick cup of play tea. She certainly admired the things we built before helping us dismantle them. Basically, she would set us up in the bedroom to play, go do her stuff for an hour or so, then she would rearrange us, then go back to her own stuff. i guess she had a sense of how long we would play nicely at one thing, so organised us, used the remaining time, reorganised us, etc. If we fought over whatever we were playing with, it was time to put it away and do something else. Messy stuff like art supplies were not available except under supervision, so that mess was controlled. As we got a little older, chores other than putting away toys crept in: setting the table for lunch and dinner, helping clear it, helping dust skirting boards or wipe down other woodwork.

So, it can be done, but it will be done BY you actively directing it every day not by just telling the dc. Which sounds hard, but then again, living in a messy toy strewn house is hard. My mom made her choice for the organising, and it paid off as we all kind of kept to the habit of not dropping stuff all over the house so long as we lived there. admittedly, my mom is a very organised person by nature so this would be her choice! my version was a more watered down expectation that toys go back to the bedroom, even if just in a messy pile, each night. When they were toddlers, and played in the babyproofed living room, all the toys were scooped into a laundry basket at night. By me or DH.

Currently, I am exhausted thinking how busy she kept us in order that she could get through the housework expected of SAHM then. i have one ds now, at school most of the day, and I dont accomplish a quarter of what she did each day with 4 small children and a dog undefoot.

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milkmilklemonade12 · 23/06/2015 23:59

Gosh, great advice here and I do have help AND a small family, but here's my two pennies worth:

Never go up or downstairs empty handed

Make the beds as people get out of them

Load dishwasher and washing machine last thing at night and empty first thing

Contract out oven cleaning

Have a clear out of toys before each person's birthday and Christmas. Any doubled up gifts get regifted

Invest in a steam mop; you can use them on carpets to freshen them up

Get groceries delivered

Clean out the fridge before shopping arrives and be absolutely ruthless

Keep stuff on kitchen worktops to an absolute minimum

Good luck!

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unlucky83 · 23/06/2015 23:57

I agree with 4 DC just give yourself a break - if they are fed and clean - you are doing a good enough job!
However...
The thing that has helped me most is something from I think 'unfuck my habitat' - 5 mins or less. If it takes 5 min or less just do it...don't put it on a list, don't give it brain space - just do it...
So eg emptying the dishwasher used to be a job I hated ...I would keep putting it off and keep thinking I need to empty the dishwasher.
I started forcing myself to do it (chanting 5mins or less to myself - it actually takes about 3 mins! I did time it once Blush) - now it is a habit - it is finished it gets emptied...just do it automatically.
The 5 mins or less is also true for lots of things - eg like bird poo on a window - every time you walk past you see it - it annoys you... you think I must sort that out. When actually it only takes a few minutes...you see it and you do it. It stops you feeling swamped thinking I must, I must, I must...
Washing - I have a main wash day once a week - I do 5-7 loads. I do them one after the other - unless it is really rainy I hang it on the line (I have a rain cover on a rotary airer). When the line is full (3 loads), just before the next load finishes, I take in the driest things (usually 1st load) and put in the tumble to air. (Then the next lot of driest thing, then the next etc.) I don't iron...as soon as the tumble finishes I put on hangers and into wardrobes or fold. Folded clothes go into a wicker basket. The next day I put the clothes in the basket away. It takes 5-10mins. I have enough drawer space for everyone - think that is really important! - I pull out clothes for recycling as I put away - drawers are never overfull - I always have a bag on the go and I take it to the clothes bank at least once a month. (My DCs are older now but I still do the putting away...so I can cull their drawers but most importantly it does get put away - doesn't get mixed in with dirty and back in the laundry bin...)
Admin/paperwork/child organisation.
As soon as they get home from school I check their bags - I add dates to my google calendar or to do list. I pay for things like trips straight away or sign things and it goes back in their bag for the next day. Like someone else I have a big bulldog clip and stick notes/party invites in there - in reverse date order (if it is paid I write that on the note). Party invites I will add the date to my calendar, text the parent to say we can go and also put 'buy a present for' on my 'to do' list for a week before.... this all takes a few minutes max but means it never becomes overwhelming.
House paperwork -- yy to direct debits and to having somewhere to file bills etc - anything else try to pay straight away by internet banking - post date if nec (and write on things that they are paid and when). The other thing I have is an A4 folder full of polypockets -I stick things like hospital appt letters in there after I have put the date on my calendar -so I can find them. (And if it is an appt during school hours for a DC I put write letter to school on my to do list for the week before.)
They also have a bag for each activity and it lives on a hook in the cloakroom. Their 'kit' stays in the bag - bills/permission letters also get dealt with straight away and then go into the bag - clothes that needed washing when clean go in the bag.
But I am also trying to go paperless ...I use google keep and an app called ticktick -along with google calendar -which has recurrent events on there - eg DCs activities -so I know if I have a clash straight away and also if it 'special' for some reason I'll just put it on there.
You can view Keep and ticktick and calendar on your phone, tablet and laptop - they all sync. I add eg dentist appts straight onto my phone calendar as I get them -don't take cards anymore - and they are set to send an email reminder in advance.
Google keep I take photos of eg newsletters/party invites/appt letters - so I can always find a copy if I need to doublecheck something. I also have a full shopping list on there -things I regularly buy. I make a copy as 'current' and add odd things to it - then before I do a big shop I go through and delete what I don't need - then tick things off as I go round the shop. (And lots of other things too - but mainly for my work)
Ticktick is a to do app - a to do list. You can have separate categories, set dates, set recurring events. If someone asks me to do something etc I add it to my ticktick -you can (like keep) do it by voice recognition -so it takes seconds - you can also # (tag) things. So eg I work mainly from home but need to go in once or twice a week - if there is something I need to pick up or take in etc (non-urgent) I'll tag it '#work' - before I go I view all #work things, before I leave I'll view it again- so I don't get home and think damn I've forgotten to pick up or I should have...I just have to remember to check!
Sorry huge post - I guess I should say I am not naturally organised (I think I have ADHD -and was described by a former boss as the most disorganised, organised or organised disorganised person they had ever met) but these things help me not to be as chaotic as I am inclined to be ... keep things under control - and even when things slip (and they do) it is never as bad as it has been in the past ... when I have eg forgotten DCs regular activities - and have ended up with piles of paper to do lists - making sorting out my to do lists another job for my list!!!

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Melonfool · 23/06/2015 23:30

Decluttering - we got rid of four full black bin bags of clothes, bedding and curtains at the weekend, plus a box of books and bric a brac. So refreshing. Can now actually see in the airing cupboard and the sets are labeled for each bed as to whether they are single, double or king size.

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CamelHump · 23/06/2015 21:27

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Pointlessfan · 23/06/2015 21:16

So many great ideas on here, I'm feeling inspired! I've put all the washing away tonight as a start.

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