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AIBU?

To not want to spend £5000 on a holiday?

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roland83 · 17/02/2015 14:46

There's only me and my partner, we both earn 30k a year each.

When we look at holidays I hate the idea of going Turkey / Spain etc for £500-£1000, but everywhere I want to go such as Las Vegas, Canada etc are just ridiculous money! £5000 for around 10 days, not including food and drinks.

We are savings for our first house, so it's not really a big issue as the choice between house deposit and holiday is obvious.

I've been Turkey, Egypt, Spain and similar and I find it a bit crap. I don't want to sit by the pool/beach all day getting a tan, I want culture.. but all the day trips are rubbish and crowded. I want to go to Las Vegas and visit the Hoover Dam, Area 51, Grand Canyon but when you work out a realistic price it's astronomical!

So, is it me? AIBU to think all the decent holidays are overpriced and now I'm in my 30's £5k on a holiday seems crazy when I could get a lot more for my money on other things?

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bedraggledmumoftwo · 18/02/2015 08:19

Ok, so family holidays when you were younger don't really count if everyone else just wanted to sunbathe, but I do think you should wipe your memory clean and start afresh with new trips. There are a gazillion places out there, and a million things to see, and in the poorer countries you can do it much more cheaply. The red sea is one of the best scuba diving spots in the world, for example.

It is entirely up to you what you want to get out of a holiday, if it is modern structures, then whatever floats your boat, but ancient structures are also amazing (pyramids, macchu Picchu, taj mahal - I spent hours just gawking at the taj mahal, it was just amazing, particularly because it is right in the middle of a chaotic indian slum- not an actual slum, before anyone corrects me, but what the Op would think was one. India was absolutely amazing, a complete assault on all the senses, good and bad, the sounds, the sights, the smells the tastes, the colours, all mixed up together. I would definitely recommend it, but it doesn't sound up your street. I think the two spent less than a grand travelling around India for three weeks, with some expensive hotels, lots of upper class sleeper trains and lots of amazing sights thrown in. and business class flights booked on miles because we do like a bit of luxury nowadays!

Cheaper ski resorts may not be up to your standards, if you have only ever been to the major expensive ones you mention, but to be honest, it really depends on the snow, so if you get a good dump right before you leave, then you will have a great time regardless of how extensive the resort and lift system is. And the après will be cheaper too Grin

Now it entirely depends on your budget, but yes, for £5k you could get a lot. Like martin Lewis says try the downshift challenge- in his case he means have Tesco own rather than finest, but I mean try a cheaper level of flights and hotels and restaurants and you may be surprised that it makes a big difference to the cost, but not to the experience. Which leaves you more money to have more holidays or put towards house and kids etc! Bon voyage, wherever you go

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londonrach · 18/02/2015 08:36

£5 k for 10 days. Prices must have gone up. We spent 3 months for two of us in canada, america on less than that 10 years ago. You can do america cheaper. We just booked flights and car hire and played motels off each other to get cheap rooms. All good quality and very clean rooms.

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Ubik1 · 18/02/2015 08:40

Is suggest you it a backpack on, fly to Thailand and try out some beach resorts.

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Nationaltrusthandbook · 18/02/2015 08:53

All this talk of travel is making me desperate to sling on my backpack and just go!

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OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 18/02/2015 09:09

I love it when the 'we backpacked round the world for 2.50' crowd start posting Grin.

Endless searching for deals and bartering with motels sounds all a bit tiresome, all IMHO of course. I must be a bit strange as in that I hate all the researching/planning aspect of a holiday - there's too much choice and pressure to get it right, and you always end up thinking 'what if there's something else better/cheaper/nicer'.

I mostly take tripadvisor with a pinch of salt as well as you don't know what standards people expect or what sort of food they like. People saying 'the food was shit' might be someone who only likes processed British food, so didn't like the local cuisine.

Someone saying 'the hotel was dirty' might be a Mumsnetter who thinks that every square inch of the room needs to be bleached twice a day and towels and sheets changed daily.

And packages can sometimes work out cheaper. I once got a week's B+B in a spa hotel in Lanzarote for 100 pp more than the flight alone would have cost. I wouldn't have been able to book the same flight, transfer and hotel separately myself cheaper.

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Nationaltrusthandbook · 18/02/2015 09:17

Ilkley yes probably does sound tiresome but I love the planning! Almost the best bit. I don't read Trip Advisor though as you could tie yourself in knots.

Backpacking isn't for everyone I agree and you will laugh as I spent 3 years travelling around the world like that and only spent £17.50 back in the day... I am more discerning these days though although I love the freedom of not having an itinerary or anything organised.

We are all different though and that would be lots of people's idea of hell.

Sometimes a package can be a lot cheaper, I've just used the flight and accommodation bit but not come back for a few months which worked out cheaper than just the one way flight.

I also never think 'oh it could have been so much better/cheaper/nicer' , that way lies misery.

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GoodbyeToAllOfThat · 18/02/2015 09:24

If you don't have kids and are looking for an adventure, why not go to Asia (as suggested above). Try Cambodia, Burma/Myanmar, Thailand, Viet Nam, etc. That would be very cheap and very fun.

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notnaice · 18/02/2015 09:31

The best holidays I've done are where you organise it yourself. It's time consuming researching but worth it.

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londonrach · 18/02/2015 09:34

I loved the bartering. You be surprised how cheap a night can be and what gets thrown in especially if you talk with an english accent. We also surprising how some amazing meals in america and canada. Think its part of the experience.

Found everyone in america an canada to be very very friendly and helpful and giving. For example we were eating at a very famous inn in gettsberg but on a limited budget so no wine just one course each. Suddenly the waiter appeared with two glasses of cool crisp white wine. We expressed surprise and said wrong person and he said someone in thus room wants to buy you a glass as he loves the english accent. We thanked the whole room. Then there was the time we got really really ill from posh b&b in canada (warm yogurts) and next stop we stayed at was a motel. They bend over backwards to help us with us paying just £20 per night for both of us to stay. Pil paid for us to stay and recover 1 week later in posh b&b and we pretty much got treated as teenagers of the family being giving family meals and being ordered to use their hot tub (not normally for guest use). We just found everyone so helpful and tbh that made the holiday (as well as the amazing scenery and my fav driving into Bryce canyon following the snow plow in with snow as high as our rented car both sides). Enjoy your trip op where ever you decide but you can do it cheaper...

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RufusTheReindeer · 18/02/2015 09:41

We went back backing a long time ago for 6 months

We were 26, I would have liked to do it again but now I'm older I'm not sure I would be happy with some of the "conditions" of rooms we slept in.

But the only room we booked in advance was one in India for the first night and one in Australia for our first night there

It was dead easy to pick some very good rooms up as we went along especially in the USA off season (you should have seen the Vegas room we booked for our wedding anniversary Grin)

I would recommend doing it in the USA, we did it when we went to florida pre children as well

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bedraggledmumoftwo · 18/02/2015 09:45

For hotels in the states try priceline and hotwire and you can set your minimum requirements and price and get a secret bargain! There is a lot of info on the web as to how to identify the hotels and bag a good rate.

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ThereisnoFinWay · 18/02/2015 09:47

the 'we backpacked round the world for �2.50' crowd, are they now the ones with the magic chickens? Grin

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Celticlass2 · 18/02/2015 09:56

Reading this thread in the airport on our way back from Spain.
OP, if I had £5000 to plan a holiday there are so many places I would love to go, I'd have no problem planning something amazing!

Why don't you just go somewhere in Europe to start with for a city break?
There are so many amazing cities out there,- something for every kind of traveller, no matter what your interests are!

DH and I are going to Warsaw and Berlin over easter,- flying in to one and out if the other.
History and culture in abundance, amazing architecture, and great food.

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Welshwabbit · 18/02/2015 10:02

OP if you are still reading we did a 5 week trip to China and Japan before we had kids and it was amazing - and less than £5 because we booked all our flights and accommodation ourselves and travelled around by train. A bit of planning gets you a long way! I would definitely recommend China and Japan if you're interested in structures. Also Cappadocia in Turkey - amazing houses hewn out of rock and the landscape looks like another planet (you could also try the place where they filmed Star Wars which I think is in Tunisia). Once you get out of the package mindset you will have so many more options. I am quite jealous as have 2 kids under 3 so my holiday choice are now much more boring!

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RufusTheReindeer · 18/02/2015 10:03

there

I would like a magic chicken...I don't want to eat it Shock

Or maybe a magic dog that didn't shit or a magic cat that didn't claw

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Welshwabbit · 18/02/2015 10:03

Er, that should be less than £5k obviously!

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Nationaltrusthandbook · 18/02/2015 10:19

I was the 3 year backpacker and nope I can't and won't do the magic chicken now!

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bedraggledmumoftwo · 18/02/2015 10:31

What is wrong with backpacking crowd, these are genuine experiences. My year was £10k. Just over £1k for rtw flights, so I guess average of £25 a day on the ground, lots of camping, hostels, self catering, but also a lot of amazing places and experiences, lots of alcohol, and the occasional splurge or expensive activity- mountain gorillas, elephant rides, lion walks, white water rafting, sandboarding, sky diving, a lot of scuba diving (inc padi) and skiing/snowboarding.

In fact the time in aus/ nz probably took the lions share cash wise. So maybe £35 a day there and less than £20 in poorer countries.

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Nationaltrusthandbook · 18/02/2015 10:47

I agree bedraggled spent around 30K for two of us for 3 years. Sold everything to pay for it 20 years ago, don't regret a moment of it as would never be in that position again.

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fullsuspension · 18/02/2015 11:19

I know I won't be popular but I do sort of know what the OP means. It is possible to spend a huge amount of money on a very average holiday and not doing so does tend to take quite a lot of planning. Particularly if you want to see new and exciting things but also don't want to be too much out of your comfort zone. I also take the view that if you can't have a better standard of living on holiday than you do at home then why go? - I know that will be an anathema to lots of people but I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that.

The advantage the OP has is not yet being restricted to school holidays. In my pre-DS days I did a 2 week fly drive from San Antonio to LA via Vegas and SF, saw lots of amazing stuff and the total cost was about £1500pp (12 years ago). So it can be done. Others have suggested TrailFinders and I agree they are best for the sense of security you get from a package without the bad bits.

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MaidOfStars · 18/02/2015 11:25

I also take the view that if you can't have a better standard of living on holiday than you do at home then why go?

To experience how others live? To walk in their shoes?

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GoodbyeToAllOfThat · 18/02/2015 11:29

The US is great for a road trip. Our good friends bought a car on the west coast, sold it on the east coast and travelled for essentially the cost of petrol (possibly vice/versa).

I would give almost anything to have one year of pre-kid time back to do a continental trek.

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OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 18/02/2015 11:33

Nothing wrong with backpacking, it's the impossibly small budgets that often seem to be quoted. I know the cost of living in Asia is very low but some costs stated seem to be impossibly small.

On Mumsnet a holiday seems to be one of:

Backpacking in Asia for a month for 1k per person (wouldn't the flight take almost all of that budget?)
Three weeks driving to the south of France all in for about 800

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10k for a fortnight in Mallorca, in a villa near Puerto Pollensa naturally.
3k for a Monday to Friday break in a shed in the woods at Center Parcs.

No-one seems to have a normal holiday on a normal budget Smile.

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shovetheholly · 18/02/2015 11:33

It shouldn't cost anything like that, where on earth are you looking?!

Go to Skyscanner, search for cheap flights. You should be able to get a return to the States for £500 or less.

Go to Airbnb and find suitable accommodation, much cheaper than hotels.

You should be able to get an absolutely amazing holiday in stunning accommodation for less than £2k not including food.

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sleepyhead · 18/02/2015 11:35

I don't enjoy package holidays, and have avoided them since I used to go on last minute, picked off Teletext, boozy weeks in the sun when I was 18-25.

However, I do love the planning, dreaming, booking and experiencing a bespoke holiday. I think the planning and anticipation is at least 25% of the fun.

I did a great USA East Coast multicentre trip with a friend (Boston, New York, a mini road trip to West Virginia) pre dh. Driving in the USA is a piece of piss. Huge automatics with cruise control and petrol is v cheap.

For our honeymoon we flew to the South of France for a week, TGV to Avignon for a week & car hire so we could tour around, TGV to Paris for a few days and then home.

Holidays post-dc have mainly been in the UK, but the times we've been abroad (Barcelona, rural France) again it's all been done with budget airlines, car hire and self catering accommodation or hotels book direct. Never had a bad experience.

My holiday budget has always been very frugal and I think you get so much more for your money, tailored to your own personal preferences, if you take the effort to plan, source, and book each part yourself.

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