to suggest that if we start to hate eachother, the terrorists have won?

[perfectlybroken]

Having glanced at some of the threads on here since the Paris attack, I can't help feeling we are eating into their hands. Their actions, while tragic in their consequence only become far reaching if they increase suspicion and hatred between Muslims and non-Muslims. I'm amazed by the suggestion that many Muslims support these attacks. Dh and I are Muslim and we have never met a single person, here or abroad, who has agreed with the terrorist attacks of the last few years. If I did meet someone like this I would tell the police.
Could I ask everyone to remember that most humans want to live in peace and know that they and their children are safe and want the same for others too? Thank you.

[Theboodythatrocked]

not

[SlaggyIsland]

Oh for heaven's sake Back don't be so pedantic. I simply said that mosques had also been targetted, to evidence that the tensions were going both ways. Which theye have.

[ChickenMe]

There was an explosion at a kebab shop which happened to be near a mosque.

Maybe just a dodgy kebab then. Plenty of them around. Sorry.

[BackOnlyBriefly]

Are you at it again SlaggyIsland Your link about mosques being firebombed. doesn't go to news about mosques being firebombed.

three blank grenades were thrown at a mosque they are used for gaming so not dangerous apparently. A bullet hole was also found in a window of the mosque. which IS dangerous but not firebombing. Oh and the mosque was empty.

Several shots were fired in the direction of a Muslim prayer hall shortly after evening prayers. The hall was empty and it doesn't say if any of them actually hit it.

There was an explosion at a kebab shop which happened to be near a mosque.

[sandrapanda]

Machair since you asked if the incident of the elderly woman ordered to be killed by the prophet was in the Quran, it isn't but it's in the Hadith. Umm Qirfa's tribe, which she led, tried many times to kill the prophet. In one incident they attacked a muslim convey on its way to Syria and killed some of the Muslims. The ones that survived made it back to tell the prophet who then dispatched a force who did indeed kill her and those who fought with her.

So she wasn't a little old woman who sat around minding her own business, she and her tribe which she led were trying to kill the prophet and he made a pre-emptive/retaliative strike if you like. It took place in a war situation and didn't just randomly happen. Yes the manner in which she was killed was gruesome but this was 1400 years ago where such methods of execution were probably the norm. Much like being hung, strung and quartered here 600 years ago.

[ChickenMe]

Do not mention the Mail on here.

Yes the OP was always right. Don't think she meant hating each other as in poster v poster though oh dear

[NotTheKitchenAgainPlease]

I agree theboody .
Bed for me now though. I'm glad we've made up

[Theboodythatrocked]

chicken well don't read the daily mail either.

not no agree with you the op is dead right. We all need to stick together

The marches in Paris and around the world are fantastic.

Viva la difference or whatever it is the French say.

[NotTheKitchenAgainPlease]

If that was to me theboody, it's ok, I laughed when I saw the dear and I completely deserve it. Sorry again

[Theboodythatrocked]

Bugger meant to put a smiler at the end.,

[Samcro]

Muslims don't scare me.
they are just people

[ChickenMe]

This is an open forum not a club for girls who all agree with each other and all think the same on every subject.

This is precisely why mumsnet gets ridiculed for being left wing north London guardian readers.

Lol the body that's hilarious. If you're not a Guardian reader here on MN you are very naughty indeed.

[NotTheKitchenAgainPlease]

Agree Slaggy.
500 - so it seems

[NotTheKitchenAgainPlease]

Yes but this thread isn't one of those theboody. I think the OP was quite clear on that. Seems very reasonable to me. Of course we don't all agree with each other but I don't understand what is objectionable about the opening post. Really I don't.
And some posts do have really unsavoury undercurrents.

[PacificDogwood]

So, yet more people basically being dicks to each other and the really important thing in the wake of all of this is that we don't, as per the point of the OP.
Yep.
Quite.

[PacificDogwood]

See, I don't think that there is anything party-political about acknowledging the human tragedy of these events (and others like it) and attempting to display some solidarity with everybody affected by horrible acts of violence. And that does include 'normal' muslims and their families.

500

[SlaggyIsland]

Justanotherlurker so have a number of mosques.
So, yet more people basically being dicks to each other and the really important thing in the wake of all of this is that we don't, as per the point of the OP.

[Bisgetti]

Thanks for this thread OP, my muslim brother has travelled to Paris to participate in the rally and a muslim friend who lives in France also went to show her support and solidarity with the French and the rest of the world against this kind of terrorism.

The other threads on MN over the last couple of days have both scared me and enlightened me, it's interesting to get an insight into others perspectives and how they view me as a Muslim on the bus or tube while I'm doing the school run or commuting to work. To think that some people may consider me to be a violent terrorist who is out to harm them is vey sad, and frankly disappointing.

I CAN understand why people are fearful though, in these awful times emotions are expectedly heightened and fear overtakes rational thought.

I am shocked and appalled by the terrorist attacks that have taken place in Paris over the last few days. The attack on the offices of Charlie Hebdo and the loss of 12 innocent lives and injury of others is a criminal act, which is against all principles of faith.

As a Muslim, and more importantly as a human being, I unreservedly condemn the brutal murders of the journalists and the poor police officer - Ahmed Merabet, as well as the victims murdered in the Kosher Grocery store - most likely targets because Jewish people would be shopping there, although one of the assistants employed by the store I believe was a Muslim, which goes to show there is and can be unity amongst the faiths.

[500Decibels]

Studies have shown that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives

[Theboodythatrocked]

not no worries.

However I really really detest the mumsnet thing that unless you agree with the liberal left wing party line one is immediately classed as a rabid UKIP racist.

It's sooooo boring dear.

[Justanotherlurker]

Maybe the whataboutry of other religions can take a back seat for a while and understand there is a conversation that needs to be made.

The German newspaper that published the cartoons was firebombed.

[NotTheKitchenAgainPlease]

Disingenuous? Moi? No, I think that it is heartening to see that not all mumsnetters hold some of the misconceptions and unsavoury sentiments expressed on the other threads.
I think you're just having some fun aren't you simon? Go on, admit it.

[NotTheKitchenAgainPlease]

Machair - very welcome. I'm not sure that the New Testament deals with abortion, but I'm not really familiar with it.

[simontowers2]

Oh come off it notthekitchen. That is the tone of this thread and you know it. It's you who is being disingenuous.

[PacificDogwood]

George bush said God told him to invade Iraq
Yeah, but George was a bit thick though, wasn't he?

I am really quite intolerant of violence and of the incitement of violence - does that make me a liberal?? Maybe it does. I could live with that.

I was hoping the shooters from Paris would not have been shot so they could not be counted as martyrs, not because I felt sorry for them.
Did any of you see the mother of one of the shot policemen? Who was of course muslim? How can you not see that we have more in common with that bereaved family than with the shooters??