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AIBU?

That this child said " no black people allowed"

69 replies

Bongobaby · 01/08/2014 10:46

Ds was playing out with the neighbours kids and they were ganging up on ds. Anyway I thought ds could handle the situation but I stood at the window just incase things got out of hand. Ds moved over to our front garden but the others moved to their front garden and ds wanted to join in to which the little girl turned to ds and said " no not you, no black people allowed".
At this point I went out to her and said " do not speak to him like that, apologise". She did. But aibu to think that there was no need for her to have said it in the first place and that I made her apologise?

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giraffescantboogie · 01/08/2014 17:32

Seems highly likely to have been something heard at home/from someone else sadly :( Especially as whenever I have heard children describe someone they would say "the boy/girl with brown skin" using the phrase "black people" would suggest to me it has been heard :(

Hope the child doesnt grow up a racist twat like it sounds the parents are!

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Pipbin · 01/08/2014 17:51

We had some people come to our school to talk about racism.
They showed the class pictures of children and asked them to say how they were different, one short one tall, one with curly hair one with straight hair. Then they got to the children who were one black one white. The children just simply couldn't see that there was any difference with the children in the picture. In the end the trainer had to tell them the answer they were looking for. It wasn't because they didn't want to say, it was because they honestly couldn't see it.

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Pipbin · 01/08/2014 17:52

What I am trying to say there, posted to early, is that racism in children that age is a learned attitude.

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SisterMcKenzie · 01/08/2014 17:59

Racism is learned definitely.

If a child comes out with a racist remark, it has come from the adults around that child.

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dawndonnaagain · 01/08/2014 18:05

Marylou Short but geeky and of spanish descent, I know exactly how you feel. One of my twin dds has taken after the spanish side. She too knows they're idiots. Like you though, I wouldn't hesitate in calling the police these days.

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HelpMeGetOutOfHere · 01/08/2014 18:08

Can I ask why the op's user name is causing such offence?

I googled it to see if it was a racist term, it brought back results for musical baby/toddler groups and a song.

Bongo is a drum and baby so the only imagery I get from the user name is a baby playing the bongos.

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KeemaNaanAndCurryOn · 01/08/2014 18:18

Oh StarGazy. You've made me laugh.

It's been a while since I've seen someone give such a poor example, insulted someone's username AND called troll all in the space of a sentence.

That's not a good thing, by the way. The laugh was cringing on your behalf.

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ArsenicFaceCream · 01/08/2014 18:24

There is a similarity to 'bongo bongo land' HelpMeGet. Google that.

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fun1nthesun · 01/08/2014 18:25

sister sorry but my kids heard it at school. I am not and would not say racist things to them.

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fun1nthesun · 01/08/2014 18:26

It was against them not them being racist by the way....

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StarGazeyPond · 01/08/2014 18:55

The laugh was cringing on your behalf.

Why, thank you Keema - much appreciated Grin

Children will find ANYTHING to call another child if they are that way so inclined, be it fat, ginger, four eyes, shorty, lofty. Not saying any of it is right........just that's what children do.

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Marylou62 · 01/08/2014 18:55

So sorry OP, I missed the bit where you were insulted...please come back. I should have backed you up..Sorry. I just hadn't read past her silly1st remark. I live on an X authority estate and have had lots of bad behaviour against me and mine. Grew up in a council estate and been called the N word by an adult. My parents obviously handled it fine because I don't have any hangups now. When my DCs played out and came back with complaints about other kids, we just talked about why they were like this and that to just keep away from them. They have all grown up now and have a good group of friends. And actually even some of the nastiest kids have grown up fine...teaching your Dcs the best way to behave and letting them 'practice' this is hard but in the end they will be well rounded adults.
And Dawn...twin girls!! am so envious...I sooo wanted twin girls...Scarlette and Kizzy they would have been called.

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SisterMcKenzie · 01/08/2014 18:58

"sister sorry but my kids heard it at school. I am not and would not say racist things to them."

What was your response?

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lljkk · 01/08/2014 19:12

"If a child comes out with a racist remark, it has come from the adults around that child."

Sorry, not always true, ime. Ds has come out with some corkers which had nothing to do with adult exposure. The best (or worst) was when he started calling boys in his class (who he disliked) "Nigger" quite fiercely. Ds knew it was terribly insulting & wanted to hurt them.

He had no idea it was a racial slur. All the boys in his class are white British. Argh.

I have other examples where Dc were merely commenting on appearance in the same way they might object to someone wearing purple or a strange hat. But they happened to mention skin colour because they have no idea that can be used as a special kind of insult.

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brokenhearted55a · 01/08/2014 19:19

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x2boys · 01/08/2014 19:23

Children are not born racist they learn it from their parents my son goes to a catholic school but it fairly multicultural he's is not racist because he has never been brought up to be ,my sister teaches in a school that's children are mainly from a Muslim /Pakistani background she says the odd child that is white British is picked on racism is ugly .

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TattyDevine · 01/08/2014 19:29

My son said when he was 5 that he couldn't marry a certain child in his class apart from the fact they were only 5 because she had brown skin (she's half Portuguese so more olive skinned than anything and dark brown eyes). No idea where he got this idea, but not from us! Apart from the fact we are a white couple, perhaps he thought it was a rule or something?! Anyway I set him straight and said he could marry whoever he wants, male or female, black or white or anything in between, etc and he accepted that. If he'd said this at school he would have ended up in the Racist Incidents book. I used to work there and students end up in there even if they say the word gypsy. No actual action gets taken, necessarily, but it is all recorded.

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sammy90 · 01/08/2014 19:30

So so so sad to hear, it's totally unacceptable, I would have to curse that woman down to the ground. But racist people like this wouldn't give too hoots and what's even worst after having a general chat on here. You still get racist people on here to be funny with you and then pretend that they ain't racist ! Nothing has happened. Over many years of the uk being multicultural, racasim will never be stamped out. From these disgusting vile creatures. Angry

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gamescompendium · 01/08/2014 21:46

Pipbin the kids didn't say the difference because they have been taught not to mention racial differences. Not explicitly but just by learning how their (not racist) parents act. Of course they could see the difference, just like they could see the difference between a child with straight hair and curly hair or blue eyes and brown eyes. They're not blind. My kids can tell what colour of skin someone had but they have been taught a) that skin colour is just an indication of where your ancestors come from (I like to bore them talking about melanin) b) some people are bad to other people because of the colour of their skin and that is wrong.

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