Why are the richest always the tightest?

[KeepOnKeepingOnAndOnAndOnAndOn]

I have friends from all backgrounds. I myself had a middle class upbringing, but both parents are very working class and proud. We were always raised to have respect for money etc

In life I have met some very rich people, at uni my best mate was the richest girl there. She was lovely, but very stingy with her cash. Not with me, I just mean in general.

One of my other mates is also very tight fisted, yet shes bloody loaded. Most of my mates who are normal to skint are very generous and tip Etc.

We are comfortable, not loaded though. I am generous and tip and certainly not a 'taker'.

Its seems the biggest 'takers' in life always see to be the rich. They think nothing of coming over time and time as in for tea/ borrowing money / but never invite people to theirs. Try to dodge outa payin for their share of meals etc.

AIBU to think that rich folk often seem rather tight? Is this why they are loaded!

[BillyBanter]

No chip. I'm not poor. Never have been. I'll concede to a yearning for social justice for those who are. I can empathise with rich or well off people wanting more, there is always something more to want. I just don't sympathise with it.

[UtterFool]

Billy

What were you saying earlier about empathy? Sorry but it seems like double standards to me.

Or a huge chip on your shoulder.

[mimishimmi]

It's not been my experience at all. Many wealthy people are acutely aware of their good fortune and do support worthy causes. However, others around them often have their hand out and often expect to be bailed out or at least have things paid for (dinner etc) every time they're with their well-off friend/relative. That gets tiresome. I've known tight people across the economic spectrum and there's usually a good reason/explanation behind it.

[BillyBanter]

Because I'm not a Cunt, and I recognise it's luck as much as judgement.


Propping up society more. giving away EVEN MORE!! to the poor. Gimme a break. My heart's bleeding here.

[UtterFool]

Although Billy, if you're relatively wealthy then you are already likely to prop up society more due to higher taxation. Therefore why should you give even more away to the poor?

[BillyBanter]

blog.ted.com/2013/12/20/6-studies-of-money-and-the-mind/

[OwlCapone]

But generally the richer you are the less empathy you have for those less fortunate than yourself.

Total bollocks.

[BillyBanter]

You can't get rich from being frugal. There has to be money to be frugal with.

It was also my experience that the richer people in my village gave less and wanted more when we used to go round collecting for poppies.

Big Issue sellers do better in poorer areas than better off areas.

There are of course generous and tight people across the social spectrum. But generally the richer you are the less empathy you have for those less fortunate than yourself. You have all this money because you are worth it and have been financially astute therefore poorer people are not worth it and have not been financially astute.

'I work hard for my money' Like someone on 3 minimum wage jobs doesn't!

[Vijac]

I agree with poster up thread about charity donations. Weathly want to give to charity and have the charity claim tax back. Sometimes their companies will also donate a percentage of what they donate in addition. So they may avoid putting £2 in every charity box that goes around in order to give more efficiently.

[NearTheWindymill]

I wouldn't dream of putting less than £30.00 on a card. I withdraw x amount on a Friday for the week. I find it hones the mind to spend actual wadly, notey money that you can rustle.

[Pagwatch]

I carry cash because I fucking hate wankers who take 15 minutes to pay for a fucking coffee with a fucking card. Tossers!

[DocDaneeka]

Another one who doesn't carry cash.

Cards, or go without at chez Daneeka.

[NearTheWindymill]

Cripes woowoo I like to have a goodly wad on me at all times .

[WooWooOwl]

Lots of people don't carry cash though!

I don't, I usually have an emergency tenner, but I rarely need cash for anything. Even the car park in town accepts cards.

I also don't donate to food banks, I don't see what's interesting about who does and doesn't choose to donate to them. I have plenty going out of my bank account to charities of my own choosing each month, I have two regular voluntary jobs and stand there with collection tins for a chosen charity as well. You really can't tell anything about someone tightness or generosity to charity based on whether they choose (or remember) to pick up a couple of extra tins as they're going round a supermarket.

[Pagwatch]

Ragwort
I'm intown so much and I get really self conscious if there are lots of people collecting. I end up doing a really odd awkward 'look, already donated' mine.
Chuggers piss me off and if they approach me when I have DS2 I literally snub them as he gets über stressed by my talking to strangers. I look so rude >

[NearTheWindymill]

Rag My church takes food bank donations on the first Sunday of the month. Every month I forget and feel guilty and hope no-one clocks it. But I hope some people at least realise that I cook 80 dinners every six weeks for homeless charity and forgive me.

Please don't assume that the people who don't give do nothing else - sometimes there just isn't time to run back in and pick up something else although if I've had it I've taken a bag of pasta and cereal out of my own trolley and shopped again later.

[Ragwort]

It does surprise me when people can't put a few coppers in a charity collecting box, as does the comment 'I don't carry cash' - unless you are the Queen .

We do collections for our local Food Bank at supermarkets and it is always interesting who does and doesn't give a few tins - yes, I know some people might be giving a standing order of a few hundred pounds a month but surely it wouldn't kill anyone to give us a couple of tins of beans? And yes, I am thinking about our local celebrity .

[CountessVronsky]

Wealthy people can be either generous or stingy. There's no correlation.

I think some wealthy people might worry they would be seen as showboating if they are overly generous with it.

[Pagwatch]

I wasn't toy throwing

You're being a bit odd now.

To be honest your telling me I didn't have a brain when you just misunderstood my post, might have warranted an apology rather than accusing me of 'toy throwing'

[RiverTam]

and there are plenty on here who would hate Bill Gates because he (Shock horror) looks like a 'geek' and has made money from (double shock horror) science.

what??? Why would anyone on MN hate him because he's a geek who made his money through science? Is there something in that statement that also doesn't show in writing, because I just don't get that at all. Especially as, as Pag said, he very famously donates enormous amounts to charity to the extent that I believe he's not leaving anything (or relatively little) to his children.

[OwlCapone]

That was sarcasm in case anyone is confused.

[OwlCapone]

Friend of a friend of a friend's dog walker's cousin is committing benefit fraud. This means that all benefit claimants are scrounging scum.

Oh no, wait a minute...

[wowfudge]

The guy I mentioned is incredibly tight with his money - he'll be leaving a sizeable estate with his house, flat and the savings that he never spends at this rate. Yet he is the sort of person who doesn't tip in restaurants, counts up his exact bill on the rare occasions he eats out with others and doesn't leave a penny more. Oh and a few weeks ago, my friend had arranged to go round to his place to watch a film in the evening and asked whether some other friends she was with that afternoon could come along. He said yes then emptied his wine rack in the kitchen so he didn't have to share his wine!

I think it's terribly sad that he doesn't have the imagination to be able to enjoy his money and is so miserly.

[specialsubject]

no,I didn't. Sorry. But no need for too violent toy-throwing, sarcasm doesn't always show in writing.

and there are plenty on here who would hate Bill Gates because he (Shock horror) looks like a 'geek' and has made money from (double shock horror) science.

[Pagwatch]