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To of changed my babys nappy on the train

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wouldntofgussed · 15/03/2014 16:10

Was only ten minutes into an hour and a half journey when my little one needed changing no toilets on the train either. I took her up to the end of the carriage where I change her nappy a lady on the train told me I was disgusting

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trixymalixy · 16/03/2014 10:18

Monkeys, I had the same happen to me in Rome. I couldn't believe they wanted me to change a babies nappy on a table where someone would eat. I went to the toilets instead and just put the mat on the floor. I'm not English though.

OP you did the right thing given the situation.

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slartybartfast · 16/03/2014 10:24

and i dont think i would have, you say the journey was an hour.

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hackmum · 16/03/2014 10:44

Slight overreaction from OhMerGerd there...

The problem is the lack of toilets on the train. With a decent-sized toilet, it would have been fine. I don't see how it's practically possible to change the baby in the connecting bit between carriages because they're usually too small and people are often walking back and for between them. Sometimes they have automatic doors which would just add to the difficulty, because they'd be opening and closing as you moved around. In fact, of all the possible solutions to the problem, I'd say changing the nappy in the connecting bit between carriages is the worst one.

I think the OP did the right thing.

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chateauferret · 16/03/2014 11:37

The person in charge on a railway train is the conductor. It is his job to determine what pax behaviour is and is not U, based on the Conditions of Carriage. If Cowbag-face had a problem, she should have referred it to him. Clearly, she would have received short shrift.

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chateauferret · 16/03/2014 11:38

The person in charge on a railway train is the conductor. It is his job to determine what pax behaviour is and is not U, based on the Conditions of Carriage. If Cowbag-face had a problem, she should have referred it to him. Clearly, she would have received short shrift.

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chateauferret · 16/03/2014 11:38

The person in charge on a railway train is the conductor. It is his job to determine what pax behaviour is and is not U, based on the Conditions of Carriage. If Cowbag-face had a problem, she should have referred it to him. Clearly, she would have received short shrift.

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chateauferret · 16/03/2014 11:40

The person in charge on a railway train is the conductor. It is his job to determine what pax behaviour is and is not U, based on the Conditions of Carriage. If Cowbag-face had a problem, she should have referred it to him. Clearly, she would have received short shrift.

Does it say in the Conditions of Carriage, "thou shalt refrain from changing thy baby's nappy, yea even though he may have pooed and stinketh unto the highest vaults of Heaven, and even though he hath a sore arse?" No, it does not.

YAFNBU.

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chateauferret · 16/03/2014 11:46

The person in charge on a railway train is the conductor. It is his job to determine what pax behaviour is and is not U, based on the Conditions of Carriage. If Cowbag-face had a problem, she should have referred it to him. Clearly, she would have received short shrift.

Does it say in the Conditions of Carriage, "thou shalt refrain from changing thy baby's nappy, yea even though he may have pooed and stinketh unto the highest vaults of Heaven, and even though he hath a sore arse?" No, it does not.

YAFNBU.

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OhMerGerd · 16/03/2014 11:53

Good heavens. What happens during the night when all babies wet their nappies or poop? Do they have alarms in their pjs which alert the parents who then leap out of bed within 10 mins to an hour? Or are all these parents staying awake on shift to ensure that soiling is immediately dealt with?
No of course not! A wet nappy is not an emergency and a poo nappy can be dealt with more discreetly.

If you regularly travel by train as I do you will also know that frequently those in between bits are used as seating areas when the trains are full so I doubt anyone is going mind the few minutes it takes to change a nappy. If no in between bit why not move to the luggage rack? Or just wait till you get off?
Come on. It does not do a cause any good to argue for the indefensible. Changing poo nappies on trains and restaurants tables where you are in confined space and close proximity to other passengers / diners is disgusting.

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Chunderella · 16/03/2014 12:00

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squishysquirmy · 16/03/2014 12:19

YWNBU, you had no choice and as you describe it you did everything you could to minimise the discomfort to other passengers.

OhMerGerd I regularly travel by train, as you do, and can assure you that there is more than one type of train design - obviously the one the OP was on did not have such a convenient place to change the nappy as you describe. As for changing it on the luggage rack - you really think changing it on top of someone elses suitcase is more considerate? As for your comment about changing babies in the middle of the night - no, they do not have alarms in their PJs to alert their parents to a pooy nappy, the crying is enough.

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crazy88 · 16/03/2014 12:25

It is not acceptable to change a nappy on a table. Corridor between carriages or other out of the way place would have been better but like others have said if there were no toilets I would loudly ask the conductor where I could change the nappy.

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VisualiseAHorse · 16/03/2014 12:44

OP - not disgusting at all. I have done it several times. I always try to find a discreet spot, and ask anyone who is near if they mind. If they did (I've never come across someone who did mind) I would move to another spot.

Toilets on trains are not always big enough, and I'm not kneeling on the floor of a pissy toilet to change a nappy anyway. I can't change a nappy on my lap.

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SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 16/03/2014 12:47

What is wrong with people? Confused

I assume that the poo was contained within the nappy & wipes and placed in a nappy sack or other suitable bag? In which case, it is not dirty or disgusting for anyone. And the smell of shit is the smell of shit - whether from a nappy being changed or from a nappy left in situ for the entire journey!

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OhMerGerd · 16/03/2014 12:49

I have had a couple of babies myself so I do know how they work :) ... that's is why I find the dogmatic insistence that OP is not unreasonable quite incredible.

I've travelled on trains, boats, planes, cars and bikes while they were in nappies and never would have dreamed of performing the task of changing a dirty nappy on a train carriage table or a restaurant table(I reference restaurant tables because others up thread proclaim that this is acceptable too). I know I have never done so. But I have assessed the situation and either waited until I have got off or moved to a location where we will not cause offence. None of my children have had sores on their bottoms or uti or any problem at all.

They are exceptionally well mannered, polite and considerate of others - they know what is and what is not appropriate in a public setting and to make a distinction between that and a private setting.

But it takes all sorts I suppose.

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Waltonswatcher1 · 16/03/2014 14:37

No one can defend changing a baby on a dining table surely ? That would be utterly disgusting .
The op didn't mention tables or have I missed something ?
Learn how to change on your laps for gods sake ! It is an easy thing to master and means you can perch anywhere and do a bum discreetly . Problem solved .

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ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie · 16/03/2014 14:56

If they have, I haven't seen it Walton…

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HelloBoys · 16/03/2014 15:04

I'm childless and agree with what you did OP!

However I'd also have asked (guard was on train) if there was anywhere (eg staff toilet) on train that I could've changed baby in. Most sane train staff would help you.

I think it's disgusting there are not toilets or baby change facilities (put in toilets if no room for separate) on most trains.

And finally for everyone who whinges re toilets not being nice to change babies well not nice for travellers either in toilets but you deal with it.

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spikeymikie · 16/03/2014 15:32

Those of us with disabled older children have to change them on toilet floors all the time. Since this option was not available to the OP what she did was reasonable.

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TheBody · 16/03/2014 15:39

wish mumsnetters would realise that correcting posters grammar makes them look such mega twats.

I wish people would be rude like this to me. I have changed my kids millions of times over years and breast fed everywhere but no bugger has ever once commented.

not bloody fair when you really could do with a good old row. Grin

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HelloBoys · 16/03/2014 15:59

Oh out of interest trains I've travelled on recently (first great western etc) most seemed to be big toilets, even southern when you get them can be larger. I'd assume they had pull down baby mats but not sure.

Surely larger toilets with baby change should be industry standard if not because they also look big enough for a wheelchair (that's another topic!).

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Sparklingbrook · 16/03/2014 15:59

I live to see a row on a bus or a train TheBody. I could feel a box was ticked. But everyone has been nice. Confused

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