To get slightly irritated when people refer to their children being in Year 4 etc?

[Nirvana69]

Just ever so slightly irritated but every thread I've read today related to school aged children I'm told they are in Year 6 or Year 10 or whatever.

This means nothing to me (Scottish) I have no idea what age a Year 6 pupil is.

Aibu to ask that people even stick the age in brackets?
Just a bug bear of mine.

[mumminio]

It annoys me too. At the school I went to, it was 1st year for 10/11 year olds, up to 5th year (GCSE year) then Lower 6th & Upper 6th (A level year). Now they don't even have A levels!

It makes me feel like a dinosaur. I just remember year 7 = 1st year and "translate" it that way.

[clam]

Or, you could get a life, and find something more worthwhile to get irritated about.

I don't live in Scotland, but I have managed to suss out that P1 is the equivalent to the English Yr 2. How about you just educate yourself?

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

That isn't right, though - because if P1 was the equivalent of Yr2, P7 would be the equivalent of Yr 8 - and it isn't. For ds3, P7 was the equivalent of Yr7 and S1 (the next academic year) was the equivalent of Yr8.

[lljkk]

It's a cohort thing. I live in England & have worked out what age P1 is, etc.

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

I never did figure out the start dates - we told the schools the dses dates of birth, and they said ds3 (aged 11) was to go from Yr6 to P6 and ds2 (aged 13) was to go into S1 from Yr8. Ds1, who is an August baby, and was the youngest in his year, went from Yr9 into S2 - he went back a year, because otherwise he'd have had to catch up half a year of all his Standard grade curriculum.

[maillotjaune]

If someone wants advice about how their child is doing at school them stating the Year is surely helpful to any teachers / parents of similar age children who might answer.

No problem with saying Y1 or P1 or whatever - if people don't understand they can ask.

[MrsCakesPremonition]

I posted a link earlier to a document that explains that P1 maps to Y1.

[Salmotrutta]

P1 is the first year of school up here.

We don't have reception so P1 is comparable to reception rather than Y1. Anything before that is nursery school.

Primary goes from P1-P7

Then secondary goes from S1-S6

[AuditAngel]

Anonymai, DS is in Year 5 but he isn't 10, he's only 9. And since his birthday is in August he I'll still only be 9 when he leaves yr 5. If it is to do with school the year makes more sense than his age

[CrohnicallyFarting]

nirvana you hit the nail on the head, 31st August birthday means you are the youngest in the year, 1st September means you are the oldest. It is extremely rare for the year to be deferred- I have only known it happen when the child has severe learning difficulties. And even then, the year is deferred later down the line eg the child remains in the reception class for 2 years rather than delaying the start of reception.

It is slightly more common for children to not start school until they are legally obliged to- when they turn 5- but in practice this would mean an August birthday child would miss the whole of the Reception year and go straight into year 1, which puts them at more of a disadvantage than if they had gone into Reception just after their 4th birthday.

[IneedAwittierNickname]

Audit ds1 is the same.
When posting on school related topics I post their year group and their age, as both can be relevant.

[BurdenedWithGloriousPurpose]

If it's so easy to figure out then why is this thread so full of people getting it wrong eg P1=Y2?

YANBU, it would make sense if everyone used both the year and age.

[tabulahrasa]

If it's relevant to school in a - what level should a year 6 child be...then it's not an issue as anyone not familiar with that education system is isn't going to know the answer anyway.

But, I've seen things like - what should I buy a year 5 boy as a present, or is this film suitable for year 10s? and I haven't a clue without having to ask how old they are.

[wobblyweebles]

Bonsoir and they are...?

[Moln]

If you want to know the age you could just ask.

I imagine that if they are declaring that their child is in Year 4 it's because it's a school related question, and I'd imagine that it's directed at those in the same schooling system.

I'm in Ireland and there's a different school year labeling here.

Primary school has:

Junior Infants
Senior Infants
1st Class
2nd Class
3rd Class
4th Class
5th Class
6th Class

Age range in the classes can be over a year in their difference

[ErrolTheDragon]

I've never figured out the US grade system, but I don't get annoyed when Americans use it - I know that I could easily find out if I was that bothered, so it's my problem not theirs.

I guess I'd expect people on a site with a majority of English/Welsh users to feel similarly.

In many contexts the school year is relevant, the calendar age isn't.

[Caitlin17]

YANBU (Another resident of Scotland)

Children start P1 at 5 and stay in Primary school until P7 .Then S1 to S5 or S6 .Perfectly clear.

[Caitlin17]

YANBU (Another resident of Scotland)

Children start P1 at 5 and stay in Primary school until P7 .Then S1 to S5 or S6 .Perfectly clear.

[ilovepowerhoop]

I dont agree with the link posted earlier as it says P1 is for age 5-6 and both mine started P1 when they were 4½years old. I would regard P1 to be the equivalent of Reception as it is the first year of proper school.

[Quinteszilla]

I put age if age related, school year if related to education.

If I am on an education thread, saying my son is 11 could mean Y6, last year of primary, or Y7, first year of secondary, so confusing. It makes sense in terms of national curriculum levels.

[Nocomet]

I can see it's annoying (I keep meaning to google the Scottish system).

However, in education and behaviour threads it can be very relevant.
Y2 is far more formal than the years before.
Y5's IME play up, Y6 (top of primary) teachers tend to expect limit testing and are far more on the ball, than in Y5.

It makes a huge difference if a 11yo has or hasn't started secondary school to how independent they are.

[ErrolTheDragon]

The system south of the border isn't any more difficult to comprehend than that - reception in the year the child turns 5 (so most are 4 when they start) - I think it's 'reception' rather than starting the count because they don't legally have to be in school till they are 5. Then yr1-13. Most schools have primary up to year 6, secondary from year 7 , 'sixth form' is year12 and 13.

But some areas (and esp posh private schools) have a middle school - I don't know what age they start at, doesn't really matter for most discussions as the year/age is the same - that may be why the continuous numbering rather than starting the count again on entering secondary school (which we used to do, O-levels were in the 'fifth form')

[ilovepowerhoop]

we also dont have national curriculum levels or SATs in Scotland so none of that means anything to me either