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to want to move house in London just because the area where I live has become extremely poncey?

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Mintyy · 08/12/2013 20:21

Yes, yes, of course we have been unbelievably lucky that we chose to live somewhere that became gentrified and therefore have made a lot of money on our house.

However.

We now feel like we have less and less in common with the people who live here. We are 49 and 51 and have good but not outstanding incomes.

I have just discovered that my new neighbours (who paid an extraordinary amount for their extremely average terraced house) are newlyweds in their early 30s. They are going to be doing building works, so I am imagine an extension and a loft conversion.



We are going to have nothing whatsoever in common with them are we?

I sincerely yearn for more authentic London living. Either inner city or further out and less pretentious and overpriced than where we are now.

Such a pita to have to move though! And nothing on the market Sad.

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formerbabe · 08/12/2013 21:14

Lets just say one of the more grotty parts of south east London! I would now always live in the nicest place my money would buy!

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Mintyy · 08/12/2013 21:14

If we accept that an area can be gentrified then we have to accept that some people will feel put out by that gentrification. And that includes me.

Eeeee, I remember when the first person with a 4x4 moved on to our street. Now it is awash with them.

Actually, I don't care if I'm an inverted snob Grin.

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NoArmaniNoPunani · 08/12/2013 21:14

Where do you live now? Most of London is being gentrified. Croydon's a shit hole, how about there?

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BranchingOut · 08/12/2013 21:15

Tell you what, read the evening standard for a week.

Make a list of all the places mentioned in relation to crime or poverty and cross off any which also feature in the Homes and Property supplement. Then you will be left with your target house hunting areas. Hmm

I think the reasonable reaction to being in your position would be to count your lucky stars, rather than be mooning after a faux-Dickensian fantasy of authentic London.

Or have you considered that you are actually part of the change towards 'poncey'?

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SashaOfSiberia · 08/12/2013 21:16

I wonder where you live, what zone is it? Where I live has been gentrified and as I said I've bought into that but for every artisan bakery Hmm there's a pound shop or a weave shop or something where you don't pay a fiver for something you'd bin if you turned it out indoors.

I've lived in the rougher if not roughest part of London but it's always been that you could go 5 minutes one way for a bit more fancy things or 5 minutes another way if you really want some rough.

I can agree with wanting a mix but I don't think wanting all rough is anyway better than wanting all middle class.

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Mintyy · 08/12/2013 21:17

DirtyDancing - I definitely feel I have more in common with my 65 year old retired neighbour who lives in a housing association house on one side of me than the early 30 somethings who are paying over £800,000 on the other side. Trouble is, there aren't many 65+ year olds on a pension moving in.

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Ephiny · 08/12/2013 21:17

Oh I see.

Honestly, I do think it is inverted snobbery (or naivete). I used to say similar things about not minding a bit of scruffiness etc, not wanting to live in the boring suburbs or middle class areas. Until I actually moved to an 'authentic' part of London.

You do not want to live here. Seriously. It's not 'edgy'. It's grim and depressing and stressful and unpleasant. I am desperate to move, and as soon as we can afford it, we're out of here. No one lives here if they have a choice about it.

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southeastastra · 08/12/2013 21:17

why would wanting a more mixed area equal rough sm?

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Mintyy · 08/12/2013 21:18

Heh heh at Croydon!

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thecatfromjapan · 08/12/2013 21:19

Mintyy, I am roughly your age. These days I think mainly about being in the catchment of a good hospital.

Actually, I've probably always thought that ... (what on earth does that say about me!).

Are your friends close by? I'd strongly advise staying where your friends are.

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Finola1step · 08/12/2013 21:19

Nowt wrong in twells Xmas Grin

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southeastastra · 08/12/2013 21:20

lol i was thinking of moving up north for good hospitals Grin

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formerbabe · 08/12/2013 21:20

I used to live somewhere where you could smell weed every time you left the house, rubbish left on streets, pit bulls off their lead...yep, its lovely in the inner city

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MarshaBrady · 08/12/2013 21:21

There are very grim places out there. How grim do you want?

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TooOldForGlitter · 08/12/2013 21:21

I have always fancied living in Landan, for the change y'know? Do you fancy a houseswap? Suburban Lancashire complete with a greyhound and i'll throw in th'usband Grin.

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thecatfromjapan · 08/12/2013 21:23

You know, it is hard when your area gentrifies. Or rather, aspect of it are tough. All of a sudden you can find yourself priced out of your local area. You are a kind of "have not" on the doorstep of your won home, watching your home patch turn into a playground for people a lot better off. It can be quite weird.

That said, there are definite upsides too.

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scottishmummy · 08/12/2013 21:23

Well given op appalled at her poncy neighbourhood it seems she's seeking more edgy,frontline

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Brittabot · 08/12/2013 21:24

All of the places you mention that you have lived are places that have become more affluent in the last 20 years. You need to go to the suburbs or out west if you want a more mixed area in which to live (caveat: not that I really understand what you want)
While I've lived in london I've been in Balham, Brixton, Shepherds Bush, Chiswick, & northwest zone 4/5.
Mix of people all the way, I would never typify an area in the way you do.

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southeastastra · 08/12/2013 21:25

so that equals rough? lol

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bigTillyMintspie · 08/12/2013 21:25

Oh Mintyy, I feel your pain re building works - that thread on our local forum is about the works behind us. And the nice couple next to us are trying to get and extension done. I feel like the world coming in on usSad

I agree, when we bought our house, the area was a different place. And there were parking spaces!

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southeastastra · 08/12/2013 21:25

if you aren't middle class you are Rough lol

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OhWellWhatToDo · 08/12/2013 21:26

Where do you live? A nice place to live in is Redbridge if you want a bit more diversity. We live in a shit area of London (inner London) and I hate it, there are drug dealers outside our house and the police couldn't care less. We had a teen stabbed a month back, opposite our house. I don't like authentic London living tbh.

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AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 08/12/2013 21:26

Apparently Croydon is getting a Westfield.

I think you're going to have to go further out.

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SashaOfSiberia · 08/12/2013 21:26

Also I think you need to be careful, I think this might be a case of the grass is always greener.

You've got DC, I don't know how you would feel about them suddenly being out of the safety I imagine your area currently provides. I'm someone looking to raise tough kids but even I can find it really worrisome. Each of my older DC has at least one friends who've been stabbed. DS1s good friend was randomly shot nearly 2 years ago. It is terrifying. I never felt under such a threat when I was young.

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thecatfromjapan · 08/12/2013 21:27

I get where you're coming from. I really do. But I have to admit, I do have a weeny voice running through my head singing: "I got 99 problems but my area gentrifying more than me ain't one." Grin

Seriously, I have friends who have also talked about this. It is a weird, and not entirely nice, new experience in London. It is almost like something being taken away from you by Very Well Off people. Who are probably nice enough. And it is very hard to be taken seriously when yu talk about it.

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