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to think this advert for an unqualified maths teacher is a bit crap really

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OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 21:39

Vacancy Title: Unqualified Teacher of Maths
Salary: £15,976 to £25,267 (pro rata)
ClosingDate: 03/12/13
Reference:
Working Pattern: Term time only - Temporary
Hours Per Week: 32 hrs, TTO

The Academy

This position is temporary and will last until July 2014.

We are seeking to appoint an enthusiastic, reliable, and self-motivated Unqualified Teacher of Maths to join *** Academy, starting as soon as possible.

The ideal candidates will possess a minimum of 4 GCSE’s (Grades A*- C) including English and Mathematics or equivalent. Experience of working in a similar role would be desirable.

We look forward to you joining our dedicated and supportive team.

Well, at least you need 4 GCSEs including Maths and English Confused

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phantomnamechanger · 19/11/2013 22:13

What if they had GCSE but then an open university degree in engineering ? Say

very unlikely to be accepted on an engineering degree, let alone cope on one, with only a C in GCSE maths, I would imagine.

OhSodOff · 19/11/2013 22:15

You couldn't cope on an engineering degree with poor maths, unless you got that C because you were pissed/ill during the exams, I'm an engineer.

Philoslothy · 19/11/2013 22:15

This is not just a teacher without a PGCE or without a degree in the subject that they are teaching, they may not have any degree, any A Levels and a Grade C in maths.

I am so angry about this, so angry in fact that I am neglecting my own marking so that I can have a rant.

OhSodOff · 19/11/2013 22:16

I agree with you Phil. This is just just disgusting. And yet posted proudly on an open job site with the school's name emblazoned all over the advert. Who thought this was even acceptable?

I would worry for the bottom set maths kids at this school.

pimplypoppet · 19/11/2013 22:18

So I could do this even though I took GCSE maths 6 times before I got a C?!!! Already I can barely cope with my DDs yr 3 homework!!!

OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 22:20

The ideal candidate will have GCSE Maths.

How can they even say that with a straight face?

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OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 22:21

Apparently they want 2 teachers.

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Philoslothy · 19/11/2013 22:23

This is the advert, I hope it is not another one, they want two unqualified teachers as soon as possible

If my children were at the South Leeds Academy I would be contacting the press, my MP, OFSTED, LEA and I would be outside protesting every morning. We need to be angry about this, or it will continue.

Philoslothy · 19/11/2013 22:28

link to letter from OFSTED highlighting concerns

soul2000 · 19/11/2013 22:29

Its truly terrible , that the kids who need the best Teachers end up with the worst. Dept of Education Performance Tables South Leeds academy:

FSM =42.4%
GCSE 5A*t C = 33%

OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 22:29

But academies are supposed to have loads of money to attract high quality and experienced staff.

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VivaLeBeaver · 19/11/2013 22:30

Bet they've got something to say on the TES forum about this!

OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 22:30

I did not name the school Grin

What's the Twitter Hashtag?

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OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 22:31

Probably VivaLeBeaver

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Philoslothy · 19/11/2013 22:32

I don't see why we should not name the school, they have a public advert. in fact I would like to see the headteacher or chair of the academy team on here justifying that advert.

soul2000 · 19/11/2013 22:32

If its an Advert, why can't you name the school?

friday16 · 19/11/2013 22:35

The school in question is "Inadequate", and just this side of special measures. Hilariously, from its last Ofsted:

"Too few students make the progress they should in English and mathematics by the end of Year 11. Gaps between the achievement of different groups of students are not decreasing quickly enough. Overall, achievement is inadequate."

Philoslothy · 19/11/2013 22:37

It has been named, it is The south leeds academy

VivaLeBeaver · 19/11/2013 22:38

I wonder if they're planning on employing them alongside qualified maths teachers. Like a specialised TA? Trying to raise standards so the TA can help anyone who's struggling in class while the teacher focuses on the class??

My brother is a maths specialist TA, no degree and no QTS.

OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 22:39

You could go for the maths post

Or the receptionist post

25 Hours Per Week/ Term Time Only plus 30 Days
Permanent
Salary: Grade B1 Pt 13- 17 (£15,598 - £16,998 pro rata)

Choices, choices.

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steppemum · 19/11/2013 22:44

blimey, I have an O level in maths, maybe I should apply

(can't even remember my times tables most of the time!)

OrlandoWoolf · 19/11/2013 22:44

The job description

Purpose of Job:
To teach Mathematics to the whole age range and ability of students within the academy, in order to ensure the highest possible standards of student achievement, personal development and well-being.

But to be fair, a degree in maths is desirable.

recruitment.schoolpartnershiptrust.org.uk/documents/download/5207

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soul2000 · 19/11/2013 22:47

I wonder if a 17 year old school leaver with 5 GCSEs, might decide to take the job rather than take their a Levels.

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