to think this advert for an unqualified maths teacher is a bit crap really

[OrlandoWoolf]

Vacancy Title: Unqualified Teacher of Maths
Salary: £15,976 to £25,267 (pro rata)
ClosingDate: 03/12/13
Reference:
Working Pattern: Term time only - Temporary
Hours Per Week: 32 hrs, TTO

The Academy

This position is temporary and will last until July 2014.

We are seeking to appoint an enthusiastic, reliable, and self-motivated Unqualified Teacher of Maths to join *** Academy, starting as soon as possible.

The ideal candidates will possess a minimum of 4 GCSE’s (Grades A*- C) including English and Mathematics or equivalent. Experience of working in a similar role would be desirable.

We look forward to you joining our dedicated and supportive team.

Well, at least you need 4 GCSEs including Maths and English

You don't Kways need a level to teach to GCSE. I know some gifted teachers without it. Not all maths is high falutin. I know some feet clever TERRIBLE maths teachers

Fuck a doodle do. I don't want my dc being taught by someone who doesn't even have a shagging degree. Chuh.

Private schools may not require their teachers to have teaching qualifications but I doubt very much that they wouldn't even need A Levels. Friends who have children at private school talk of the teachers often being 'Dr' and at the absolute least having a degree in their subject.

And don't you believe it that private schools don't hire teachers without degrees. AT ALL

Although, not sure I'd bet a million pounds on it. Especially in writing.

(Obv depends on type of orivate schools ).

In all it's not the qualification it's the person. And tbh knowledge of your subject is only half of it. If that. Lesson planning and delivery is getting harder and harder all the time.

The school is near me.

'to start as soon as possible'

I went to a private school that had tons of 'unqualified' teachers. Most of them had postgraduate degrees from Oxbridge.

I've spent years training new teachers. The things they find hard are pace, questioning and classroom control. I've very rarely had subject based issues.

students do not have a cover supervisor every lesson ideally not, but it certainly happens if a teacher is on long term sick.

And. At Least five who were just DULL

Holy fuck, I'd qualify for that. My maths is shit; I only do Humanities style tangents.

well in maths I doubt you can wing it with a c at maths gcse

If subject knowledge is only half of the issue - that is still jolly important.

I would be withdrawing my child from maths lessons taught by someone with such pitiful qualifications. If I knew which school it was I would be writing to them and encouraging everyone I know to do the same. I would also be contacting the press, LEA and OFSTED. I have an A grade in maths GCSE ( there was no A*) and then a B grade in further maths. I would not see myself as being fit to teach secondary maths.

The pay scale is exactly that given by the DofEd for the 'rest of England and Wales' rate (ie nowhere near London).

This pay scale has always existed, btw. It wasn't brought in my Gove, for there have always been unqualified teachers in state schools.

I had a friend who read history at Oxford, and went straight from there to teach in a well-known public school. He had no teaching qualification, but he certainly knew his historical stuff!

Cutted, I am not claiming that is ideal. Howvever it is far worse to recruit someone , solely to plan , assess and teach maths lessons when quite frankly they are not fit for the job,

I went to Public School. My A Level maths teacher was horrendous and eventually went off sick. They replaced him with the rugby teacher. I very much doubt he had A Level maths. I failed A Level maths, despite having got the year 11 gsce prize two years before. My parents paid £10k a year for the privilege.

What if they had GCSE but then an open university degree in engineering ? Say

My df did A-level maths at the same time as his teacher. He got a better grade.

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I've spent years training new teachers. The things they find hard are pace, questioning and classroom control. I've very rarely had subject based issues.

I agree that often pace, questioning and discipline are issues. However I have worked with teachers who do have subject knowledge issues. I also think there is something to be said for being taught by someone who loves their subject with such passion that they chose to study it, in depth for at least three years . They may not teach exactly what was covered in their degree, in fact it is unlikely that they will, however they have that initial passion which will inspire their students.

bloody hell, what a way to raise standards. I am gobsmacked. Unqualified is one thing, innumerate is another. Lets advertise for an English teacher who can't spell and knows nothing at all about grammar or punctuation, shall we. I'm sure I could teach PE from the sofa while stuffing my face with chocolates

This is so damn depressing. Just seen it on twitter.

What am absolute bloody disgrace.

How the fuck can someone with 4 GCSEs teach maths? I am a bloody whizz at maths but wouldn't dream I could teach it. And I have 2 degrees, for what it's worth.

Engineering is a pretty common degree subject for Maths teachers.

An unqualified teacher is a teacher with no teaching qualifications. We have several in our school. They are all v well qualified in their subject. And undergo the same appraisal process. They do get paid less...