to be fed up of all the EFFORT of work

[melbie]

You can say yes. I am having a grumpy day and am tired.

Now I know I am lucky to be in a well paid professional job. But I am a grown up now and am expected to have a high level of responsibility, I work hard and I feel like I am fairly good at my job. Mostly I enjoy it despite the fact my hours are hideous and I have to move departments every few months and make friends with new people and try and demonstrate my abilities to new bosses.

I am just a bit fed up of the effort. Chasing up on expense claims for weeks. Rotas coming out a week before they start so you can't plan ahead (even worse that my friends are all on different, equally awful rotas). Being paid the wrong amount and having to chase that up. Having to battle to find which will be your next department so you can book leave for weddings etc. Being told there is no leave available for a year ahead even if you don't care which dates you have.

The final straw today is getting my rota finally for my next placement which starts in 17 days time to find not only is it the worst rota known to man (I was warned) but that the study leave I was told would "not be a problem" for the hideously expensive course I booked on that basis is not on the rota. I TOLD them I was booking it months ago after I received that email. Now I am going to make it clear that I need that time off but AIBU to just wish things were a bit easier?

I probably am being unreasonable. I just feel like I have enough to deal with in my life without having to double check everything. Is this normal?

[AKissIsNotAContract]

It sounds nothing like my job. I'm also a well paid professional. I work regular hours every week and if I want time off I just book it in the diary and it's done. What job do you do?

[Roshbegosh]

That sounds terrible, like you say the work itself is enough. What are your options?

[melbie]

I am a doctor. Not many options- I love my job itself and most departments are the same so I know I just have to not grumble and get over it! I think I could deal with it when I was younger because I knew what I was getting into but I feel like after 7 years I just want to not spend time having to think ahead ALL the time about this stuff. I would rather spend my time focusing on the work, the acres of courses I have to go on and the hideous exams I have to do!

[BatCave]

I had a feeling you were going to say doctor, it sounds quite familiar (I'm a nurse and my sister is a doctor).

Are you quite junior?

[babyhmummy01]

My dbil has exactly the same issues...he is a doctor too. He has had no end of issues trying to get time off for his own wedding as placements are confirmed so late and the application process for new jobs is name in a hat job essentially so I can completely sympathise cos my dsis gets driven to distraction by it all.

Have a few on me and enjoy the sunshine

[Roshbegosh]

That explains it. You are expected to give everything. Is there a different specialism you could do, I don't know how senior you are at this point? They don't all require the on call, or maybe you can do a lot of it over the phone like a haematologist I know. GP's don't seem too badly off according to my friends but the job is relentless, just more control with hours. It isn't as if it will ease off over the years sadly. Don't know what to say really, tough to work so hard to get there and then it to be hellish. I agree admin support and management is often rubbish too in the NHS.

[Weekipper]

I guessed you were a doctor too! I'm married to one and its the same every year. Pain in the bum!

[fridgealwaysfull]

DH is a doctor. I'm used to it now but I do despair sometimes.

[ARealDame]

It sounds like some of the restrictions are inevitable e.g. anti-social hours - but I don't understand the chaotic planning aspect of it, short of there being some kind of unforeseen medical absence through sickness or a national epidemic .

Personally, I would put my foot down re. expensive course, I would be very hacked off about something like that. You asked for it, they said "no problem", so I think they are being very unreasonable.

Re. the general lack of organisation, one suggestion - you could get a group of your colleagues together and maybe start to request meetings to suggest/make some organisational changes? (Battling on your own in organisations can be difficult).

[melbie]

I can't really change now- I am a fair way through training and I don't want to do any other speciality. I know it is a common doctor theme...

I think there are probably some changes we could make. I think we have to pick our battles so I guess I just work out which ones are the most important and just grit my teeth about the rest.

Thanks for the sympathy everyone and for letting me have my little rant

[TimeofChange]

Melbie: It may not help your mood right now, but your skills and dedication are appreciated by us all.

(Except one or two who think the NHS is terrible).

Best wishes to you.

[dayshiftdoris]

I knew you were NHS too having been there

They are the most unorganised organisation in the world... Bonfires & hell / piss-up & brewery / orgy & brothel all come to mind...

Thank goodness there are people who stick at it or the NHS would be empty (I now work for a college and wow!!)

YABU and make sure they sort your leave x

[quoteunquote]

Thanks for doing putting up with it and putting the effort in, I am so grateful, we need more people like you.

Having lots of family members and friends who are doctors, all I can say it does get better,

Being self employed I experience what you describe is fairly typical, so great sympathy to you.

[OverAndAbove]

Hear hear! It's sad that this is how our doctors are expected to work, when we need them so much.

I get bogged down in the hassle of work too sometime - I'm in local government and everything has been cut so much there's never anyone to help navigate through problems to do with finance, HR or even admin. I hoovered our office myself the other day, and whilst I don't mind doing it myself (cleaning service was withdrawn) it seems ridiculous to spend my time my time, which is paid at managerial rate, doing that; how is that a saving?

Hopefully your leave will be sorted OP, YANBU!

[secretscwirrels]

I guessed you would be a junior doctor. I work in a hospital.
I have a DS in 6th form. He reckons every student he knows wants to apply for medicine because we all know every doctor earns £100k a year. I think most of them have no idea of what they are in for.

[lljkk]

I go to work to have a break from the effort of being a parent.

[JADS]

YANBU

It really shouldn't be that hard should it. I always amazed how quick the NHS are to claw back money that's overpaid but can't pay you for extra shifts for 8+ weeks. Bet you can't even have the money back for that course til you produce a certificate if attendance! That really grinds my gears.

Keep going, once you are a consultant you can work 2 days a week and golf/specialist practice for the rest of the week yeah right

[NightFallsFast]

It sounds very, very familiar. I waited until I was in a GP placement to get married as at least I could organise leave with certainty that I could take it without the rota co-coordinator "forgetting" to rota it in. I got in to the habit of conducting every conversation about leave and incorrect tax codes and salary via email so there was proof of the conversation, which helped.