To think that... *Spoilers for The Voice final*

[notafan0fy00]

Andrea shouldn't have won - that Leah has a much, much better voice, but that Andrea got the sympathy vote?

I mean obvs A has a decent voice and is very brave, but she doesn't actually always hit the notes and her voice is often all quavery like an old lady, whereas Leah is just phenomental (albeit seems a bit twatty).

However, the People Of Britain - esp the kind who vote in these things - are suckers for a good sob story.

[WhereYouLeftIt]

"Leah went through because she was quirky and different, with her incredible vocal range and strange vocal tricks."
"Whereas Leah is something different - not to everyone's tastes but definitely memorable."

Haven't you answered your own question there? She is not to everyone's tastes. As for vocal range, so has Mariah Carey, and I don't like listening to her either. Just sing the damned song woman, stop crowbarring fancy trills in where they don't belong and don't suit the song! And I found Leah's singing similarly annoying.

[Sallystyle]

Bo's album is really good.

I actually love Andrea's single. Didn't think much of her in the show, but she does sound lovely in her single.

Poor Leanne :( that must be horribly embarrassing for her.

[SoupDragon]

Leah will do well once someone takes her in hand and teaches her to control her voice better.

[SoupDragon]

When I say I've not heard anything from Bo, it may be that I've not noticed. Tyler I have noticed without looking for him IYSWIM.

[AintNobodyHereButUsKittens]

I think Andrea's just probably got the biggest and most supportive family. Voting must have been in double figures, mostly related to the acts.

I think she'll do well out of the religious granny market - there's a solid career there to be had, and weekly Songs Of Praise appearances.

[MrsBucketxx]

it upsets me that people can't just be nice and accept thst andrea won cause she has a lovely pure tone,

leah screached a LOT

mike was flat all the time and mat was a bit meh.

sounds like lots of sour grapes, andrea woukd not uave got through the blinds without a great voice ffs.

[WarmAndSunny]

Ps Bo released a single a while ago I think.

[WarmAndSunny]

As a musician, Leah has vocal skills that transfer. Andrea is good, but not great, and she is pitchy too. Mike, rarely sang two notes that were not flat. I am amazed he got to the final. I had my money on Leah, but she will get a career out of this either way. No matter why Andrea won, she will too have her life changed by it all.

[BeckAndCall]

Maybe I'm just tuned into radio 2 and day time TV, soup and in the real world she's not in view! Or perhaps I'm just reflecting the publicity around her album, rather than the success - the tracks I've heard are good, though.

But Tyler, his music is great and he had a website/blog about making his album which was interesting to follow.

[SoupDragon]

But last year, neither Bo nor Tyler won and they are the ones who've had the album success

I must say, I assumed Tyler won.

Haven't heard anything from Bo though.

[ImTooHecsyForYourParty]

Yes. That is true. It certainly is. People who don't win such things often have more success than people who do.

I think that's precisely because what is needed to win a tv talent show is not the same as what is needed to be a musical success.

[BeckAndCall]

I wanted Mike to win, personally, I'd pay money to listen to him.

Thing is, the people who vote are those who are actually sitting at home for 2 hours on a Saturday night, and they're not the people who buy music. So it makes no difference who wins.

But last year, neither Bo nor Tyler won and they are the ones who've had the album success. And I imagine it'll be the same for Leah - people buy her tracks so she'll be the one who succeeds .

And as for people form other shows not succeeding, let me remind you about One Direction ( didn't win) Olly Murs ( didn't win) leona Lewis and others...... They don't always end in obscurity.....

[ImTooHecsyForYourParty]

Mumsnet. International home of the arse handers

yes, I did think I was running the risk of being told off.

You're right BOF, very rarely people do go on to have a decent career. It was unfair to say they'd all be 'who?' after a year.

[GobbySadcase]

Leah is like Mariah Carey on helium. She makes me flinch.

[alimac87]

I love the Voice, and I'm really sorry it's finished. I can't watch Britain's Got Talent, it's just such cringe.

I thought most of the finalists tonight were pretty good. Leah has some terrific stuff on Youtube and I think she definitely has a career ahead of her. Andrea has a gorgeous rich tone to her voice, that fits with more folksy stuff. I'd love to see her do well. I think the hostility to the show is downright weird. As is the idea that it has to produce a megastar - it is called the Voice after all, not the Easily Bankable Star.

I would love to have known what the general public vote was in the semi finals - because if only one person per coach goes through, you can end up with a real distortion in the outcome. Maybe I think too much

[BOF]

Why would any arses be handed to anyone? And I do broadly agree with with Hec's observation, but I was pointing out that it's untrue to say that contestants NEVER get a career out of these shows- a few have done. I think the less regular posters to this thread are making the mistake of thinking that the rest of us even like these shows: by and large, we don't. But we like these threads and making each other laugh

[ReturnofSaturn]

I thought the boys were better last night actually. Wasn't impressed with the girls.

[LillethTheCat]

What Hec says.



It bugs me that a lot of people who view these shows genuinely see it as a talent contest and not the saturday night entertainment program that they really are. The sooner people realise that the whole point of The X Factor etc is just to provide a TV show and line the producers pockets the better IMHO

[ImTooHecsyForYourParty]

No, it isn't, but it's far less likely that you'll make it if you came through a tv show. You're normally nothing more than the latest novelty paraded in front of people with short attention spans in order to make good telly.

I will no doubt get my arse handed to me for this I know I will but I think that the ones who are put together by record companies in a commercial way (a pop formula if you like) and the ones who get a few minutes on mtv after winning a singing comp are for the most part destined to fall back into obscurity after a few months. They are really nothing more than a money making scheme for the record companies and are on a conveyor belt.

Boy bands, girl bands, xfactor finalists - very short shelf life.

I think if you're to stand a chance of making it long term, you've got to do it the hard way.

And even then you probably won't make it.

[MelanieCheeks]

Who has fame and fortune these days?

15 minutes, Andy Warhol predicted.

I think he's not far off, and it doesn't matter how that fame is achieved - reality show, being spotted after 10 years hard graft, or sheer damn luck. Your longevity isn't guaranteed.

[ImTooHecsyForYourParty]

That's a very small list for such a large number of shows running over such a large number of years.

I think as long as people see them for the fun they are, then fair enough. The problems come when people go on them expecting fame and fortune.

[Pleasenomorepeppa]

I lost interest when they didn't turn around for Bronwen Lewis on the last audition show. She was amazing. I watched the YouTube video of her singing Fields Of Gold & she was easily the best singer IMO .

[BOF]

A few have done well out of it, Hec: Girls Aloud, Will Young, even Gareth Gates is a popular musical theatre star now. Darius McBollocks pulled a Hollywood wife, and Jedward have made a few bob and done Eurovision. Susan Boyle is pretty successful in America. By and large though, they sink back into obscurity. Certainly this lass will.

[FreudiansSlipper]

Leah was by far the best singer her range is amazing and loved her putting her own little twist in a song

Andrea's voice is nice but nothing more and the guy well it was deep not much else can be said

[EssexGurl]

We didn't get Leah and thought she was not good last night. Loved Andrea's first performance and thought she probably won it on that alone. Also v v impressed with her on R1 breakfast show last week. V sparky and great sense of humour. I wanted her to win anyway but loved her after that. She was def best person on the night and so deserved it.