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AIBU?

This is emotional blackmail. There must be laws against this, surely?

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D0oinMeCleanin · 14/06/2013 21:44

I can have them grounded arrested or something, no?

I got a lovely glitter painting from my DC. It's of a no smoking sign and a dead person Hmm.

It has glitter gel pen writing on it.

It reads "Mammy, please stop smoking. It is bad for you. You will die a lot sooner than you normally would. It will make you really poorly. We don't want you to die [insert face with glitter tears]

People who want you to stop
[insert dd1, dd2 and DH's signature]

Me and dd2 and Daddy would want you to quit. It would make us very happy. We love you lots"

This is worse than those awful bloody adverts with the children.

Please tell me I can punish them? This is just wrong. Glitter should not be used this way.

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ComposHat · 14/06/2013 23:25

Of course I will think about what they've wrote but a glittery corpse is mildly amusing

Are you a fan of T-Rex? Perhaps they'd included a pic of the death of Marx Bolam all done up in his glitter.

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TooHotToFuss · 14/06/2013 23:28

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Justfornowitwilldo · 14/06/2013 23:30

Quit. I wouldn't bother with e-cigs. They're just a different way to feed addiction and pay money to big companies.

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Justfornowitwilldo · 14/06/2013 23:31

The glitter shows a certain flair. Sparkly death is more visually arresting Grin

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Pennies · 14/06/2013 23:57

OP "I like smoking. I would miss smoking"

I really like smoking. I worked for Imperial Tobacco FFS. I gave up 11 years ago and I still miss it. I would light up now if I could. I looked cool doing it (you know how some people just look good with a cigarette in a kind of 50's Hollywood kind of way), I loved it.

My key to giving up was telling my friends that I was trying to give up and just how much I loved it. Previously I would get all Puritanical on them and say how I hadn't smoked for a week and how I abhorred smoking so my friends (who were a lot younger at the time) would try and derail that a bit (in a kind of "are you sure you've quit" sadistic kind of way). Then I said "I'm quitting - don't make it harder for me by offering me one" and they didn't.

Be honest with yourself and your friends about it. Accept it will always be a temptation. However the total genius of it is that that temptation will be gone in 20 minutes. This was what got me through it during the times when i would smoke without friends near. Your craving will soon pass. Find something to d for the next 20 minutes and before you know it your craving will have passed.

When I was giving up I was told that it takes 14 days to make a habit and 21 days to break a habit. After 21 days it was easy. I still get the occasional fleeting craving but I can laugh about it now and would never act on it.

Considering your children's exhortations to you to give up, 21 days isn't long.

Good luck.

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ComposHat · 15/06/2013 00:06

Toohot Change the record and stop being such a tedious arse ache about it.

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SirBoobAlot · 15/06/2013 00:11

I think that's really sad actually.

The amount of times I used to cry myself to sleep at night, convinced that both my parents would die and leave me alone, because they were both smokers. And then worrying because every time I developed a cough, I was worried I was dying as they smoked around me. They knew how much it upset me to watch them slowly killing themselves. They both still smoke.

Listen to your children.

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TooHotToFuss · 15/06/2013 00:16

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HerrenaHarridan · 15/06/2013 00:32

Pin it up on the wall

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ComposHat · 15/06/2013 00:34

Yes you've made that abundantly clear. I think as reasonably intelligent people we get the message, but are also enjoying the black humour. It is quite possible to do both.

By the way you aren't being obstreperous, just a crashing bore and a killjoy.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 15/06/2013 00:38

Do you want to quit OP? We all know the health risks,financial expenditure,but...do you want to quit? If not,emotional blackmail or not, your children's encouragement is wasted.

I love the "how hard is it to quit, I managed" brigade. Nobody ever says the same of alcohol or heroin despite nicotine being more addictive than both.

Nothing better than a sanctimonious former smoker to tell you what's what is there Grin

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Concreteblonde · 15/06/2013 00:50

Childrens bereavement support groups often encourage kids to express their grief through arty, crafty type work.
Your kids are shit scared that you are going to smoke yourself to death OP. Just give the damn things up before some stranger is facilitating a support group amd helping them make glittery pictures to remember mum.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 15/06/2013 00:51

Toohot

Hardly in the spirit of AiBU is it?

As it goes by Taid is dying a slow death following two major strokes, a brain haemorrhage and many mini strokes. It's been attributed to him smoking. That's my maternal grand father. My paternal grandfather was one of 10,8 have died of pancreatic cancer. My paternal gram other has had and survived breast cancer in her 70's. given my own odds cancer/ stroke wise, I may as well carry on smoking. Something has to get us all.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 15/06/2013 00:52

*my Taid

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D0oinMeCleanin · 15/06/2013 00:53

I wish I'd never started smoking, Alis. I wish I didn't love the way I do. I would like to want to quit, but honestly, no, until tonight, I did not want to quit, now I feel forced into at least trying to cut down dramatically

Compos, I don't they know who T-Rex are, they (or dd1) just love glitter. If dd2 had had any say in it, it would have been written in Deco pens, she loves the way the colours write over each other so brightly and glitter glue would have been used instead of gel pens.

You realise that when dd1 takes over the world, which she will one day, she intends to make it illegal not to own a pet, if you won't choose a pet, you will be allocated one from the international rescue she plans on setting up with all of your tax money. This is the child who used to play "gov-y-munts" while all of her peers were playing pirates and princesses. You should all be thinking of ways to thwart her genius manipulation, not encourage it.

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ComposHat · 15/06/2013 00:54

Cheery bye... don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

Save your patronising evangelical zeal for someone who gives a toss. We are all adults we know smoking is bad for you. There is no need to harp on about it in every post as if it is some secret information to which you alone are party. It is a surefire way to get people's backs up.

My Grandfather died of a heart attack almost certainly caused by heavy smoking, and was a contributing factor in the death of my other grandfather. My father is a heavy smoker, whom I dearly wished didn't smoke and is already suffering breathing difficulites in his early 60s. Believe it or not you don't have a monopoly on smoking related death.

I wished all these people in my life hadn't smoked, but ceaseless nagging didn't work on them, because they enjoyed it and knew the risks.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 15/06/2013 01:00

I wish I'd never started too OP. I started at about the same time I discovered I could use it to cover other behaviours.

I just feel that, whether I look at my maternal or paternal family quitting is essentially pointless.

Nonetheless I've yet to be lucky enough to have children,perhaps my futile outlook will change.

Smoking is very bad,don't get me wrong, but one can only quit if you really want to. Because if you don't all you can focus on is losing something you enjoyed.

If you're going to quit, do it because you want to. As I have said,nicotine has been proven to be more addictive than heroin. Genuinely think more support should be available

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Theyoniwayisnorthwards · 15/06/2013 01:59

Alan Carr book helped me quit the first time but it took unexpected pregnancy to knock it on the head for good. I was 20 a day for 10 years, I've been off them over 3 years now and cannot stand the smell anymore.

Its so easy to laugh it off and carry on as you are but they are going to great lengths to get through to you. Listen to your children.

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sashh · 15/06/2013 06:56

My mother would have torn that up, given me a bruised behind and sent me to bed.

But that's not the point.

Why don't you try to just see how long you can go without one?

Have a treat for each milestone, so 1 hour - piece of chocolate, 4 hours bath with lots of bubbles, 1 day a nice scarf etc.

Get the kids involved, use a stop watch and a star chart.

My dad never actually gave up smoking, but he did try to see how long he could go without and is 30+ years now.

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bigkidsdidit · 15/06/2013 06:59

I smoked 20 a day for 10 years, read Allen Carr and stopped there and then. Haven't had one since and that was six years ago. Give it a try!

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PinkFondantFancy · 15/06/2013 07:03

Please stop smoking. I watched my dad die of lung cancer, it's nothing nice going to visit your dad on the cancer ward or the hospice.

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MalcolmTuckersMum · 15/06/2013 07:17

Look - with the best will in the world and not to detract from anyone's personal agony - all the telling of dreadful tales of family illness and misery attributed to smoking will not convince a smoker to stop. It just won't. You'd be hard put to find a single smoker anywhere who quit because of someone else's unhappy story.
If you don't and have never smoked you simply can't understand the way it grabs you and holds you to a point well beyond reason. Please don't think you can hector a smoker into quitting. You cannot.

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exoticfruits · 15/06/2013 07:27

If I was your child I would resort to emotional blackmail, or whatever it took. Of course you can hector a person to quit, Malcolm- at least I would try and not give up- especially if I loved the person and wanted them to have a long life.(as in OP).

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 15/06/2013 07:29

No ones denied its addictive malcolm. The point is no matter how much you love it, you should love your children more.

If your dc were miserable at school you would speak to teachers or move their school.

If your partner was miserable at work you would support them through looking for a new job.

If your pets were miserable you would enrich their environment or take them for more walks.

In other words you would seek to help your family through anything that wasn't making them happy and do your best to help where you can to achieve that.

If people post about their spouses suffering any other kind of addiction like gambling , alcohol, drugs the amount of people who's response is to LTB is unbelievable especially when it reaches the point where the children are distressed about it.

Yet somehow smokin is acceptable and will be defended no matter how much the family beg them to stop. No matter how upset and scared they are.

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