To loathe lefties with a passion?

[Abitwobblynow]

Came across this and loved it. Punctures left wing twats right between the eyes!

"The point is that the "hierarchy of victims " is not an accident nor unique to this case. It is the whole basis on which lefties' views and loyalties in any issue are shaped - i.e. not by its rights and wrongs, but by who the protagonists are.

Any group you can think of can be slotted somewhere into the heirarchy of those whom the left either likes - ethnic minorities, Muslims, communists, strikers, the disabled, women, gays, public sector workers, dole claimants, and criminals, for example - or loathes: Americans, Tories, farmers, taxpayers, men generally, bankers and owners of private wealth.

These hatreds instruct the left on any issue. If demonstrating NUM miners are forcibly dispersed by the police, they side with the miners. If the Countryside Alliance are dispersed by the police, however, they side with the police, because they like miners and hate farmers.

If a Tory government withdraws money from pensioners it's the epitome of evil. If an NHS worker leaves the elderly to starve to death in their own excrement, the left couldn't care less. The left isn't pro-elderly unless this means being anti-someone else. If the someone else is the NHS producer, then the left isn't pro-elderly any more. The side they pick is the producer, who matters more than the consumer.

Where it all goes tits up is when two different client groups are at each others' throats. So the leftist sympathises with the criminal in general - unless the crime is domestic violence. Then they sympathise with the woman. Unless, again, the man is a Muslim cleric, in which case the lefty has to look away. Reggae singers going on about shooting gays in the head: this does not compute. Gangs of Muslims threatening gays: does not compute. Black governments victimising their own citizens? Pretend it isn't happening.

The left doesn't really give a toss about miners. What matters is who else is involved. White British police? - side with the miners. Black Communist-controlled police? - side with the police, they're above reproach - or at any rate, above miners [reference to ANC police and black miners at Marikana].

As we've noted before, Lefties reduce every issue to a disgusting form of Top Trumps. They are, quite simply, morally incompetent."

Is it unreasonable to agree that lefties are morally incompetent?

[LeftWingTwat]

So what is it then? How do you have a personal reality that is not from personal experience?

The question was about reality, not personal reality. Just because YOU don't personally know someone who does X simply cannot equal no-one does X!! That's bizarre!!

[Nancy66]

I do find a lot of very left wing people to be very idealistic and naive about things.

[gordyslovesheep]

I don't know many utterly stupid people in real life but I know they exist!

*smuggles a few more Muslim lesbian drill waving minors into the UK

[TolliverGroat]

^BlissfullyIgnorant Mon 25-Feb-13 13:12:34

They don't like being compared to Nazis either. But...
In 1920, Adolf Hitler announced he was changing his party's name to the National Socialist German Workers Party.
In 2007, during a party conference, Gordon Brown announced he wanted to forget all about New Labour, and reinvent the party, a New New Labour, if you will. He called it the National Socialist British Labour Party.
I was chilled by this, but the party faithful in both audiences gave rousing cheers. For sources, try Google - it's all out there^

That's just twaddle. Brown said nothing of the sort - for a transcript of his speech to conference in 2007 see here and video of it is also easily available online. The "National Socialist British Labour Party" thing was written by a Revolutionary socialist blogger taking the piss out of Brown a week before the actual speech.

But please, tell us more about how you listened to this non-existent speech and how chilled you felt by it when you heard it. It's a fascinating story.

[Tweasels]

Oh Rhiannon, you are funny.

[cory]

"So what is it then? How do you have a personal reality that is not from personal experience? "

Maybe a combination of personal experience, listening to other people's personal experience, reading newspapers of different political convictions, reading books, listening to the news...

It doesn't take a vast amount of detective work to discover that there are, in fact, successful businessmen who donate money to the Labour party and who do therefore, presumably, support of their politics.

[gordyslovesheep]

Miners ...although they may well be under 18!

[magimedi]

to OP


But still laughing at CahrlieMouseWillDoit's joke -which is worth repeating for anyone who can't be arsed to read this whole thread:

^How do you confuse a Daily Mail reader?
Tell them asylum seekers kill paedophiles.^

[TheFallenNinja]

Don't know, don't care. I'll look after me and mine not some tosspot politician.

[throckenholt]

I read this title and thought it referred to left handed people ! I wondered by the OP was so against left handers. And then a I scanned the latest posts and read the bit about more lefties working in the public sector - I was a tad confused.

Moral - read the thread in the right order.

[LeftWingTwat]

I know Tory voters in real life! We get along!

I also know people that are anti-religion and I'm a Christian. And we get along!

This simplistic bollocks is ill thought out tribalism which helps no-one and hardens hearts.

[cory]

WRhiannon86 Mon 25-Feb-13 13:39:53
"Maybe a combination of personal experience, listening to other people's personal experience, reading newspapers of different political convictions, reading books, listening to the news..."
But that is all personal experience. Or do you think that I don't do any of the same?"

In that case your "don't know any lefties who have started businesses" is a little odd.

How is it possible to read books and papers and not know of any business men who support Labour?

[MiniTheMinx]

A government should dictate spending by what is affordable, not dictate spending by "need" and then worry about where the money is coming from later

[BaldricksTurnip]

Rhiannon86 You need to educate yourself on the difference between 'subjective' and 'objective'.

[cory]

Rhiannon, could you explain to me why the UK is still stuck in the recession and has a far lower growth rate than other similar countries, when the high spending, welfare orientated northern European countries are putting the recession behind them?

[weegiemum]

I don't like to reply to Rhiannon but I can't see how myself (a teacher for adults with literacy issues for a charity) and my dh ( a GP in a rural area of multiple deprivation) are any less "grounded in reality" than you are.

I see the real world staring me in the face on every day I teach. Don't denigrate people who choose public sector jobs, unless you plan to take nothing, ever, from the public sector again.

[cory]

presumably the established businessmen had to start somewhere too? or do you suppose they were die hard Torys until they got to a stage in life where they would be taxed more heavily?

[JeffTheGodOfBiscuits]

Do you know what, I think that drill's done me good! No more shall I care about wider society, those who are unable to look after "me and mine" and need help, or suffer injustice. It's all about me! Me! Me Me Me! Fuck you leftie bastards with your caring and your sharing and wanting to make the world a better place for OTHER PEOPLE who ARE NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU. Lock the door DH, I think someone's after my drill. Unless its a white man, BEAT THEM TO A PULP.

[tabulahrasa]

'Established business men who support Labour isn't the same as lefties starting businesses. It's easy to throw money around when you're a millionaire. It's a lot harder when you're just starting out and having to run a tight ship just to stay afloat.'

So, left wing people don't start businesses because it doesn't work with their politics, but right wing people start businesses and while becoming successful business men realize that right wing policies are wrong and become left wing?

[MiniTheMinx]

I would stick around and defend left politics but I have a business to run toodoodledo !

[cory]

I think it is very touching to imagine these successful businessmen looking around them and saying "now that I have got more money I realise what we need a system where wealthy people are taxed more heavily; I shall abandon my earlier beliefs and support such a system". Quite restores your faith in humanity, doesn't it?