to have no sympathy with Chris Huhne

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And think that he should repay at least his last yeArs MP salary? He has lied for 10 years and has had a full years pay since being charged. Then he changes his plea at the last possible moment. All his colleagues seem to be expressing sympathy

What am I missing?

[tinkertitonk]

special, "motoring offences are the same as any other offence - a crime."

Well, I've taken points for DH. Bite me.

(I wonder if I'll be so stupid as to grass us up if he cheats on me.)

[DyeInTheEar]

I have no sympathy for Chris Huhne, limited sympathy for his ex wife and not that much time for the girlfriend who was the OW and very aware of CH's marital status / family commitments - though agree it's unnecessarily salacious to comment on her sexuality.

Don't lie, don't expect people to lie for you and then don't cheat on people who you've asked to break the law for you. CH has revealed himself to be hypocritical, two faced and immoral. As for ex wife - "before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves" ; I say that as someone who was cheated on for two years so I understand the desire to get even - you just don't though especially if you have DCs with the man in question. You damage everyone. She didn't think it through at all.

I feel sorry for the DCs. It's horrible witnessing your parents' messy behaviour when you're grown up enough to understand and judge it.

[specialsubject]

he has been proved to be an arrogant, manipulative liar.

motoring offences are the same as any other offence - a crime.

hopefully his fellow prisoners have watched the news.

[MechanicalTheatre]

And I agree with Egusta that the new girlfriend has nothing to do with it and that people are unbelievably rude about it.

[MechanicalTheatre]

Dizzy he asked/made his wife take the points on her licence.

After they split, she told the police. He then lied in court.

That is perjury. It is a serious crime.

His son is extremely pissed off that Huhne involved the mother like that. As you would be.

[DizzyZebra]

Am i missing something though? How has a few points and ying about who did it 'torn his family apart'?

[DizzyZebra]

TBH I think the whole thing is a bit blown out of proportion. My Dad got caught speeding loads and he's supposed to be a professional driver, He didn't lose his job - In fact he went to court over it and they let him keep his license because he needed it for his job. I thought that was a bit backward - Surely he should be being safe? You'd think it would be the 'professionals' being made an example of for driving offences.

I don't understand why he's had to resign when his job has nothing to do with driving.

[Egusta]

I do not feel sorry for him. I do not feel sorry for the wife.... but I think her setence should be slightly lighter. I feel desperately sorry for the family and the son, and dislike that the texts have been published all over the place, and I feel sorry for the new GF as I fail to see why her sexuality should be discussed with such prurience when it is irrelevant.

[fergoose]

I feel sorry for his son. Poor lad is clearly heartbroken and betrayed, and now it is all being broadcast to all and sundry. He is the only innocent in all of this mess.

[Bue]

I do feel sorry for him, mostly about the texts. I couldn't read them all, it's such a sad situation. And yes his wife was horribly wronged, and I feel sorry for her in that sense, but she has been an absolute idiot. She didn't just destroy his career, she has possibly sent herself to prison and exposed the relationship between father and son.

[Sugarice]

I don't feel that his Wife's actions are in any way as bad as his.

Yes she was vindictive and wanted revenge for the affair he had, she has cocked that one up by being on trial herself, however perhaps she feels satisfied.

She took the points to help him when they were married and he subsequently took a huge shit on her and their family by shagging that revolting girlfriend of his.

[CartedOff]

"All his colleagues seem to be expressing sympathy"

Probably because loads of them have their own filthy little secrets that could ruin them if they came out. It's probably 25% sympathy and 75% "thank God it isn't me".

[andubelievedthat]

This is/was a guy who was reckoned to be such an rightious member of society that he could /would vote on the legal system for/in this country , that is , the laws that effect you, me and everyone else, whilst trying to screw his way out of a minor car driving infringment, for christ sakes,forget how bitter his wife is, that is an asside .he lied to the cops ,he lied to the court ,
and he caved in when his legal team told him it was game over i.e. he had to hold his hands up tohis crime>he cost you a lot of YOUR tax contributions (same as all those peeps who are lying in bed? NOT GOING TO WORK with their curtains drawn as you go to work, which is debated so much on this website) THE GUY IS A CRIMINAL, a very rich criminal>cue open prison, home at weekends, early release,and perhaps write a book about it.

[Geranium3]

no, both of them appear ghastly, good riddance to yet another liar of a politician

[Writehand]

If he'd taken the points it'd have been unimportant. He'd have had a short ban at the time. Instead the pair of them conspired to commit a criminal offence. Neither of them seems to have recognised that this was bound to wreck his career if it ever came out. I don't imagine it'll do hers any good either. They've both shown very poor judgement.

Taking points incurred by another is a form of perjury. What they did shows neither of them minds lying to the courts, which is a huge thing when you think about the implications of this for people as influential and important as these two.

Perjury matters. When my ex-DP was up for drunk driving. I could have got him off by telling the court he'd come home and had a drink after the accident, but I am not someone who will commit perjury. He was very good about it when I told I just couldn't do it. I don't think I could lie in court even about my DSs. Sure, I lie in everyday life (that dress is fabulous, by the way) but I need to feel that, at least when it matters, my word is my bond.

Maybe I'm weird, but I'm conscious of, and try hard to avoid, doing things I've reason to be ashamed of on the assumption that they may come back to haunt me. It's been sharpened by the lack of discretion I see every day on the Internet. Always wonder what'd happen if everything a troll's ever posted turned up in their boss's mailbox.

The bottom line is my sense of rot at the top. Their conduct tells us that neither of these people have high standards of personal integrity. Again and again we see that wealthy or powerful people have worse ethics and principles than a lot of the rest of us.

On re-reading this, it sounds maybe a bit self-righteous. But I was brought up to believe in principles as a sure guide. I'm wondering whether to start a thread on the topic.

[MechanicalTheatre]

The texts are awful, wish I hadn't read them.

The thing is, he's lost nothing really. He's a millionaire. He'll get out in a year and go back to being rich.

I feel no sympathy for him, he's a twat.

[Cherriesarelovely]

But he hasn't lost all that through speeding has he? He lost it all by lying about it. Then he betrayed his wife and she now wants to get her own back. I don't think she has done the right thing either mind you. I very much doubt she will be treated with leniently.

[fromparistoberlin]

I actually felt sorry for him when I read the texts, how shit is that?

He is a creep and a cheat

i really want to say something bitchy aboutr his new GF, but I shall restrain

but from a human pov, I do pity him as he has lost alot, for speeding

a crime we all do (if you count 22 miles in a 20 mile zone)

[sicutlilium]

Huhnebris.

[Writehand]

That's interesting, that the last 2 posts see the wife as worse. I saw her as a woman who'd taken points for the sake of her husband, and the family's well-being. I wouldn't have done it, and I don't think she should've done it either. I certainly wouldn't want points I hadn't earned on my licence -- it's a stigma. But she did it for the greater good of the family. Sure, the family includes her, so she benefits, but she did it as a loyal wife. Quite a big deal.

Then it turns out that in Chris Huhne's world, loyalty is a one-way street. People are loyal to him. He isn't loyal to them. After that, all bets are off. Trouble was, it wasn't a secret. It seems clear that not just the pair of them knew. His son clearly knew and newspaper reports suggest there'd been gossip.

We don't yet know how severely she will be punished. Her defence may not be accepted. It's possible she may be jailed. She certainly hasn't got off lightly, with the media coverage, court appearances, etc.

[TooMuchRain]

I agree that wife comes across as vindicative and, worse, it seems she acted with no consideration for the fall out for the son - but I don't think that makes him ok, they are two separate issues.

[iclaudius]

Not a nice man I agree but THE WIFE??????
I find her actions abhorrent tbh and indeed worse than his. She agreed to cover for him and when the relationship sours she turns vindictive in the extreme . I am shocked you all think his behaviour more dispicable than hers

[Writehand]

I don't feel sorry for him. I do feel sorry for his wife and his son. She did what she did out of loyalty, and look how he repaid her. He's not a man to be trusted, clearly.

And what an f*ing cliche, running off with his assistant. How many middle aged men do that? Simple proximity mistaken for love. Does he have no insight?

[sleepneeded]

Maybe he should repay the 250K cost of public money that has been spent.

But he has so damaged his relationship with his son.

I notice none of the newspapers are allowing comments on the articles.

[TooMuchRain]

I think he was very stupid but do feel sympathy re the texts and see no reason why he should lose his salary when he did his job.