To not share my job application form with a friend who wants the same job?

[PenguinBear]

My friend wants to apply for the same job as me (in education) and has asked me to email her a copy of my form and covering letter.

I am reluctant to do this. I'm happy to give her a list of everything I covered etc but don't want her to have my application form. She is applying in the same area I work in and if I want to apply for another job it could end up as two of us sending out a near identical covering letter and person spec as I wouldn't know what bits she had used etc.

AIBU to not send it to her?

[EverybodysSnowyEyed]

well, well done for still having your job then!!

It sounds like you could help your friend, but giving her something to copy out isn't good for either of you. Also, a job application should always take into account the job you are applying for and the one she is applying for will be different in some ways

[SundaysGirl]

Hang on...this is a job you have had for ages and she wants a similar role? That does make it different. I would let her see it myself. But I would be thinking if she cant put together a decent application form herself FOR the job how good is she going to be AT the job?

[SquinkiesRule]

If you already have a job why not tell her to fill her application and do her own letter and you will help make it better instead of her stealing your work.

[ebersneezer]

I was going to say Yanbu but seeing as you're in a job and she's applying for similar then yabu a bit. If you don't want to pass over a digital document In case she copies then you could send her a list of what you covered and offer to proof read.

I hate the idea of writing covering letters and application forms, it's hard to know what tone to take and how much detail to give. I really wanted to ask to look at some being looked at by a team I sit close to, but I'm a contractor and it didn't feel right to ask.

[MarilynValentine]

Hmm yes that does change things. She's just asking for advice. Obviously don't send her any documents, just have a chat about what you covered and how you approached your application, perhaps.

If she is actually a friend?

[CheCazzo]

So halfway through the thread you have completely changed the gist of the thing? What a waste of time for everyone who has contributed so far.

[PureQuintessence]

So, not as scandalous then?

[Bellebois]

I am a teacher, and this happens a bit in international education, esp. when you know someone at a school where you want to apply. A little inside knowledge is a good thing, if you can get it...!

I have some key phrases which I use in my cover letter, which I think are personal to me and I don't give friends a copy of my letter.
However I am happy to give advice and positive criticism of an application/letter if someone asks. Perhaps do it this way -tell her you will read it over when she has completed it.

[whois]

YANBU

Tell her you'll help / review hers but you won't send your over.

[VerlaineChasedRimbauds]

PureQuintessence

whilst it's a good story - that's not really how drama school auditions work (certainly not in the UK - though I'm guessing from your spelling of theater that you are in the US?). You can have more than one go (in subsequent years) and anyone can get an audition. I can see that if you saw a friend unexpectedly doing a speech they knew you had chosen that it would throw you a bit mind you!

You also definitely don't get standing ovations at drama school auditions (I really, really don't believe that happened) and although you may get a straight acceptance it would not be in front of other auditionees.

[PureQuintessence]

It is a good story. And true.
I know getting into drama school in the UK is easy, and it is true that everybody can audition. This is probably why I have a handful of friends who went to London, only one got accepted at the RADA, but 3-4 went to the then Lee Strasberg near Holborn. Even non actors got in, later, people just generally involved in theater, or is it Theatre? (seems my spell checker is US and it keeps wanting to use US spelling) went there for a 6 months periods simply to understand the business from an acting perspective. Even my friend who did not manage to secure a place at Statens which was THE place to go in Norway if you want to be a stage actor at National level.

The Standing Ovation bit was poetic license, to cut a long story short, and make it a bit more interesting.

Just felt compelled to clarify as you felt the need to nitpick and pick my story apart.

[MarilynValentine]

Thanks for clarifying that Quint. Maybe Verlaine, like me, really really wanted it to not be true because - it's beyond infuriating to think of the now successful actress having built her career on being such a complete bastard! She must have been deeply threatened by her friend's talent

Name and shame! Name and shame!

[Crinkle77]

No way! Why should you do all the hard work then let her copy it?

[PureQuintessence]

Marilyn, yeah, I suppose you are right. I would love to name and shame, but I fear non of you would know of her. Unless you are heavily into Norwegian Contemporary and Classical Theatre and rather obscure film productions.....

But I will never forget the weekend she rang in sick to work and spent the entire weekend in her bedroom with a Russian Bouncer - I was visiting one of her flatmates for the weekend. She just came out to grab food and use the toilet. Good going girl!

[MarilynValentine]

Erm, Ibsen. That's about it for me on that topic....

That's a nicer story, takes the edge off the first a bit!

[HecateWhoopass]

Why not just outline what you said? It's not like it damages you because you're not going for the same job. So say sorry, I don't have the application or covering letter any more, but afair, I said something about x, y and z