to think Rotherham council have lost the plot over UKIP foster-carers?

[londonone]

bbc

I really really hope there is more to this than is being reported, otherwise I am utterly speechless.

[LoopsInHoops]

Very few people on this thread seem to have any idea of the workings of foster placements. This was an emergency placement. The family did not have 'their' children taken from them.

And, sadly, kids are moved very frequently in care for far, far less robust reasons.

[TheMysteryCat]

The view that anyone's cultural and genetic heritage is second rate should be of lesser importance to their temporary or permanent place of residence is racist. As is the view that cultural and genetic heritage should not form part of a child's developing identity.

[LoopsInHoops]

Cozy - these are all quotes from you. All patronising, racist or both"

"Shouldn't these country be brought up to be British and proud of their country? What should foster parents be doing in regards to the childrens "culture"?
WHY would a different culture and language need to be supported? Bring them up speaking English and with a British culture! What is the point of bringing them up in Britain with a foreign culture? Who does it benefit?
How does it benefit the children to be brought up in the culture of another country from the one they live in?
I don't blame immigrants for coming here, but I do blame the government for allowing it to happen.
You don't have to be brought up multicultural to learn foreign languages or learn about foreign cultures."

[bradywasmyfavouriteking]

loops it has been mentioned but ignored by those who want to rage about people having 'their children removed'.

What does concern me is that this was an emergancy foster home and the kids were calling them 'mother' and 'father' according to some reports.

One of my best friends is a foster carer and this part bothered her most.

[hobnobsaremyfavourite]

Blimey I hope if anything ever happened that led to my children ending up in care that every effort would be made to maintain their culture. My DC's are white British but have grown up in a seperate language and culture that makes up part of Britain.

[LoopsInHoops]

Yes brady, that concerned me too. Not usually advised in a temporary (if any) placement. Odd.

[bradywasmyfavouriteking]

As I said early on in the thread. I actually think this is a case of the couple not looking closely enough at the party they joined.

They are quoted as saying (when told that UKIP wants people from other European countries to be sent back) that I wouldn?t have joined Ukip if they thought that.

I know several people who become members of parties only knowing part of their policies. I think its possible they have signed up because they agree with some policies and not looked at the rest.


sorry daily mail

[Orwellian]

How depressing that people still use the tired old "racist" smear to shut down any kind of debate they don't like. It seems to be the standard answer whenever difficult questions are posed.

[bradywasmyfavouriteking]

Completely agree mrs.

I just think they don't actually have a clue, when you read the interview. Joint a political party which you don't know alot about shows massive issues with judgment.

[Anniegetyourgun]

Did anyone think that line about "last week I had a little baby in my arms and now I can only look at an empty cot" was a little bit, shall we say, over-emotional from an experienced carer?

[Cozy9]

Sorry but I think this is utter lunacy. And I don't think anything I have said in this thread is "racist". Multiculturalism is idiocy. It doesn't benefit the country one bit to have enclaves of people speaking different languages and living according to cultures of countries hundreds or thousands of miles away. I think the vast VAST majority of people in this country agree with this, and will be disgusted at this case as I am. Stories like this are incredibly damaging to the left, but somehow they just don't see it.

[Narked]

The sad thing is that the Conservatives (Gove) and Labour (Milliband) are already calling this a disgrace. They're very aware that they've both lost voters to UKIP and don't want to be seen as weak on this, so they've effectively joined Nigel Farage (UKIP) in calling it a disgrace, responding to the media frenzy. This shouldn't be about gaining/losing political capital. It should be about the welfare of those children.

[Cozy9]

It IS about the welfare of the children!

[Narked]

How is the welfare of these three children related to 'enclaves of people speaking different languages and living according to cultures of countries hundreds or thousands of miles away.'

Put the soap box away.

[Narked]

So eg a child born in Spain to Spanish parent,s fostered in the UK, shouldn't be brought up as bilingual to allow them to communicate with their extended family members?

[Narked]

[Cozy9]

If they have extended family members, why are they being fostered?

[FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda]

If they have extended family members, why are they being fostered?

Probably because their parents are in the UK and as has already been pointed out, being fostered doesn't mean cutting all contact with the parents and neither is it necessarily forever.

[Narked]

Why are any of the children in foster care with extended family members being fostered? And this was an emergency placement. You do understand that?

[RowanMumsnet]

Hello

Just to let you know, we've changed the title to make it clearer what this thread is about, as we want to make it a Discussion of the Day.

Thanks,
MNHQ

[londonone]

Of course the irony of it all is, is that we have hundreds of BME children languishing in care because the SW are so obsessed with matching them up with families with the "correct" ethnicity. I don't know about any of you but when I was a baby I had no idea of my parents political views.