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To put the scarf back on my head due to family pressure? I can't take this.

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:21

You most prob remember me. For the last few weeks dh has had a few pains in his chest area and been struggling to get a good lungful of air. After a trip to A&E and an ECG and x ray, as well as trip to doctors to test breathing etc, he has been declared asthma free and heart attack free. Perhaps a bit of work anxiety or the. Fact he has just started playing football again after not doing it for so many years/poor diet etc. anyway just got a text from mil. Implying that his chest pains are a result of my decision to remove my headscarf. She also said maybe he's too afraid to tell me...(dont know what kind of relationship she thinks we have) but has asked me to "think about it please". I may as well just fucking put the cloth back on my head to shut everyone up mightn't I???? Really upset and quite frankly doubting every inch of myself.

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crescentmoon · 13/11/2012 20:37

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:38

Absolutely shocking how a cloth over the hair can give people the right to judge.

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SilverSixpence · 13/11/2012 20:39

I am Muslim and wear hijab, but would say it is a person's choice to wear it or not, so if you don't want to, you shouldn't do it for the sake of pleasing your family. It wouldn't really keep the peace, as you would resent them for it anyway. I'm guessing your inlaws are Asian, as some will try every trick in the emotional blackmail book to manipulate people into doing what they want Sad.

If you want support from someone who understands and won't judge you, I'm happy for you to PM me

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SirSugar · 13/11/2012 20:40

There are plenty of muslims who don't wear a headscarf; depends on country of origin and type of interpretaion of modesty.

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waltermittymissus · 13/11/2012 20:41

Starting to wonder if maybe mil thinks my removal reflects badly on the family as a whole?

I can see why you would worry about this but really, they are adults as are you! And you're not responsible for upholding family honour!

You've made a decision that is right for you. Your dh is supporting you and that's commendable especially in light of his feelings on it. You need to remember your valid reasons for not wearing it when they start to put the pressure on.

You shouldn't have to be answerable to MIL or anyone for the choices you make in your own life.

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SilverSixpence · 13/11/2012 20:42

Also if your husband is ok with you (even if he disagrees) it is nothing to do with your MIL so I would just ignore it. Avoid her for a while if possible, she"ll get used to it.

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:42

Crescent do you think, even though you wear it for caution, that there are valid reasons why some scholars interpret quran to not mandate the headscarf? It's just so ironic. I pray 5 times a day, have a strong imaan, fast and try to look after my family/be a decent human being, and for crying out loud the rest of my body including my bloody neck is covered by loose baggy clothes. I feel like the covering of women in modern day islam has overtaken and dominated every other subject, even those that are much more pressing such as character building and following the kindness and tolerance of Mohammed (saw)

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Molepomandmistletoe · 13/11/2012 20:42

If you back down now she will know that she can do it again with something you both disagree on and then your life wont be your own.

It's your life, your head, your decision...NOT your mother in laws.

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:44

Jazakhallah silver sixpence, and my ils aren't Asian (though I totally get what you are saying..) they are african

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Conflugenglugen · 13/11/2012 20:45

NoScarf - If you were to follow your heart, what would it tell you? (I have an opinion, but I'm interested in yours.)

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:45

Aaaaaaargghhhhhhh *cries and tears (what's left of) hair out

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greenbananas · 13/11/2012 20:47

I do remember you, and I'm so sorry to hear you are having a hard time. Also really sorry to hear about your husband's health problems.

I can't possibly advise, as this is such a difficult situation and I am not a muslim myself so can't offer you any 'inside' opinions. I have lots of neighbours who are muslims, and some wear the scarf and some don't - it is clearly not a simple issue. I am aware that some young women face huge pressure from their families about all sorts of things, and I know that this must be very difficult.

Don't doubt yourself - you made this decision honestly and in good faith, and you did talk to your husband about it. I don't what the best thing to do now is, but good luck whatever you decide.

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:48

Conflugen. My heart tells me it's not neccessary to put a headscarf on, due to how I truthfully fel when I read the Quran and listen to the pints raised by other scholars,even though I know the majority says otherwise. I believe covering everything else with loose clothing, lowering my gaze, praying, fasting and being a good kind person is what is asked of me.

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:49

Thank you for your kind words green bananas

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:50

Lmao I meant pints raised by other scholars, not pints!!! Hehe that def wouldn't be very Islamic ;)

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NoScarfOnMyHead · 13/11/2012 20:51

Points points points I meant!!!!jeez!!! iPhone . Enough said.

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DIYapprentice · 13/11/2012 20:53

OP, I'm not muslim, but at my family's church you are supposed to wear a headscarfe in church, for a woman to have her head uncovered in church is considered sacriligous to them. I stopped wearing them when I was 18.

Over the years when I have visited them and gone to church with them I have had pressure put on me to wear it. I will accept the other restrictions, wearing a below knee skirt and not trousers, keeping shoulders covered, tops modest, wearing a paler shade of lipstick rather than a really bold colour, etc- but only because they are things that I don't object to doing, and would, at some point or other, do myself. I wouldn't, however, ever wear a scarf on my head at any other point in my life so won't wear one in their church.

I also have [shock, horror] sat with my DH at the back of the men's aisle rather than leaving him to it - he doesn't however speak a word of their language. I'm sure a large part of the congregation thinks I'm damned to hell - even though I attend an Anglican church regularly and actually assist with communion. I keep having 'but you know what the true faith is' thrown at me. Hmm

So I do understand (to a small degree) what you are going through. I hope you find the strength to not be bullied, because that is exactly what she is doing.

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SilverSixpence · 13/11/2012 20:53

Noscarf you are absolutely right that it has become an overemphasised issue in Islam and there are those who feel it is open to interpretation. It is a decision you can only make for yourself as you have to live with it. I think as you have already made your decision you should stick with it as the fallout will only lessen now and you've probably dealt with the worst of it.

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Hassled · 13/11/2012 20:55

Well then follow your heart. You've thought about this, you're clearly very devout, you sound like a very thoughtful person. You have to go your own way - try to find the time to sit down and explain to MIL why you feel the way you do (and do you have some texts you could show her which back up your views? Has someone influential who she would respect written/said anything which would help?) but otherwise carry on scarfless.

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crescentmoon · 13/11/2012 20:56

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GrimmaTheNome · 13/11/2012 20:59

Wear whatever you think right and encourage your DH to improve his fitness gradually. (The latter seems rather more important to me).

Tell your MIL that you've thought about it and there is no conceivable link between your DHs fitness and your headwear. (Maybe she should have a think too, what link could there be - surely not that she believes Allah would punish your DH for your different interpretation of the Quran?)

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noblegiraffe · 13/11/2012 21:00

Who is the higher authority? You should not be more scared of the judgement of your MIL.

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OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 13/11/2012 21:02

Are you still happy with the decision you made now that you have lived with it for a while?

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Peevish · 13/11/2012 21:03

Noscarf, please don't give into such naked emotional blackmail. I fully support women wearing whatever they like and covering as fully as they see fit or not, but your two threads offer a depressing insight into the insidious cultural/social/familial pressures on Muslim women to cover, should they not want to.

I agree it's an overemphasised issue in western understandings/media depiction of Islam, but I think some negative responses come from people wondering whether a hijabi is covered because she wants to of her own accord, or is forced, or emotionally blackmailed similarly to you.

Best wishes for your husband's recovery.

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chummymummy · 13/11/2012 21:05

I am a muslim and I have recently started to wear a headscarf, everyone has an opinion on it, but it is such a personal thing.

Islam should be about being a good person, I live in hope that one day people will recognise muslims by what should be our kind good hearted nature and not by what we wear.

wear it or dont wear it, it is your choice. if it wasnt your headscarf I am sure she would find another way to pin it on you.

Next time it rains tell your mil its her fault. Hope ur husband gets well soon.

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