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To ask if anyone could just "talk" to me...

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IHeartKittensAndWine · 06/09/2011 19:13

I think I'm suffering from depression. I realised this when I began crying on the tube for no reason on my way home from work. DH is out and I don't want to worry my parents or friends, I desperately need to keep my head clear and know I need to speak to the gp in the morning.

The symptoms:
A nagging sense of anxiety at all times, panic over stupid things. Stressed at work and yet i can't focus on the simple tasks that would resolve the stress.

I've had this voice in the back of my head telling myself that I'm a failure, everything I do is crap, life isn't going to get better for weeks. I can't rationalise it away.

Last week DH was away and I cried literally every night. Not missing him. I don't know what. I had a cry on the sofa every night with the cat on my lap. I threw myself into cleaning the flat to make it nice for his return and then on Sunday I felt this cold dead lethargic grip around myself. I got it into my head that I don't love him anymore. I couldn't enjoy his returning. I can't bear to be touched.

I cried yesterday morning when I got up. I felt so slow and numb it took me three times longer to get ready. I cried this morning when I got up. I spent an hour crying and I was late for work. I cried in the loos. I cried on the train on the way home. When I'm not crying I feel numb.

...it's depression isn't it. It's so strange, on paper everything in my life is going well. I had depression before, a few years ago, but then everything in my life was going badly.

I know this reads cold. I'm trying to think systematically. I have a habit of making stupid decisions when I'm depressed or low.

I think this all sounds really cold. I am trying to think systematically. I'd be so grateful for anything anyone could say.

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gethelp · 08/09/2011 09:30

Hope you're getting some help. This happened to me and I just wanted to hide away, I felt so weak and ashamed that I couldn't control myself. It's like saying to yourself 'if I hide my broken leg maybe no one will notice'. You wouldn't believe how many people around you are going though exactly the same. Don't let depression steal your life.

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neighbourhoodwitch · 07/09/2011 18:03

How was today? x

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ViviPru · 06/09/2011 21:26

what a nice person

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Glitterandglue · 06/09/2011 21:24

Good luck. I hope it goes well for you. You deserve good things!

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cottonreels · 06/09/2011 21:24

good luck op. RE paying it forward - I knew you were a nice person Smile

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cottonreels · 06/09/2011 21:22

If the letter/notes are not about leaving your Dh (i presume not) why dont you give him a hug before you start. Get some drinks and tissues at the ready and maybe take 2 paracetamol if you think its going to be a heavy headache inducing chat Wink

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IHeartKittensAndWine · 06/09/2011 21:22

And he's home! Deep breath time. I may not be back online tonight. Thank you all, so so much for listening, and if I can't repay on here, I'll pay it forward and reach out to someone else, when I can.

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Glitterandglue · 06/09/2011 21:21

There you are then, you've done something productive. Try to take pride in those little things; even though it's difficult for you to get through the day at the moment, you're doing it.

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IHeartKittensAndWine · 06/09/2011 21:19

shortly. his bloody train got delayed! I've written out what I'm going to say. I've got us pizzas and chocolate ice cream for dinner (ordered from lovely italian down the road - now that was sthg nice today!) to make it less awful

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cottonreels · 06/09/2011 21:16

When is your DH home?

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Vixaxn · 06/09/2011 21:01

Don't forget The Samaritans - they can be very useful when you just want to talk to a lovely caring person x

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Glitterandglue · 06/09/2011 20:55

By your definition I'm a failure too. I went to a grammar school which was at the the time in the top five of the GCSE and A-Level league tables, and within my year I was at least average in pretty much everything (apart from sport and art) and at the top in English and Psychology. I could have done so much better than I did at my exams and got straight As, but I just couldn't be arsed at the time to put the effort in, so I coasted enough so that I wouldn't get yelled at for doing nothing. Got marks which are absolutely fine but not at all reflective of my abilities apart from my Psych A Level and a couple of my GSCEs. The GCSEs, anyway, were done at the same time as I was depressed, so that at least made sense, but after that I just did not live up to my potential. Then I got into uni but decided not to go before I even started and got a minimum wage job for a couple of years before doing a course far below my abilities...

Basically everyone around me was saying I was wasting my potential and I knew it too. However, I did that because I needed to. Just because I COULD be amazing at x, y and z doesn't mean I wanted to, and it doesn't mean I needed to. It was far better for my mental health to concentrate on stuff I was interested in.

Fast forward a few years and I've just finished a degree in something useful (though again, I could have done better by going to a more highly regarded uni, but I didn't feel the stress was worth the payoff) and I have a job doing something I absolutely love and am good at (though still need to find a full time job). At no time during any of that, apart from my depression, have I actually felt like a failure because like I say - I could have done better, but to do so would not have actually been better for me. You see?

I say all this only to make the point - by other people's definitions I am a failure. By my own I'm not because I am happy and content with my life and I feel that where I took 'bad' choices, they were right for me at the time. I can say all this because I have got high self-esteem and have almost always had (apart from during the depression).

You are often your own worst critic. By someone else's standards to have even got into Oxford would be a massive, massive achievement. It's all perspective and yours at the moment is very skewed. That is not your fault - if we could control depression we'd all be fine all the time. And it doesn't sound like self-pity - it sounds like depression!

cottonreels Haha, thank you. I shall be looking over my shoulder...and I refreshed the page before I posted all of the above to check and realised I had meant to add about now not being the end, but you'd already done it! Grin

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IHeartKittensAndWine · 06/09/2011 20:54

Howling Bitch, thank you. I know this, I just can't shift my focus.

Cottonreels, I don't mind about the cross-posting. I'm just grateful for what you're saying!

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HowlingBitch · 06/09/2011 20:52

A*

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HowlingBitch · 06/09/2011 20:51

(An lighthearted extraordinary exaggeration of MN by the by)

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cottonreels · 06/09/2011 20:51

Bloody hell, Im so slow, I keep cross posting. sorry

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cottonreels · 06/09/2011 20:50

I heart - you must remember that this is not the end of the story. There is still time in the future t be what you wanted to be, to try and pick yourself up and dust yourself down, to start over. We all think we could do better at times. You will do better, but youre not going to change the world tonight. But you are going to make a start on it tomorrow when you phone the docs

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HowlingBitch · 06/09/2011 20:46

Self pity my backside, We here on MN spending our days reading stories about women complaining their life is over because their toaster is a shade darker than their kettle!

You need to stop focusing on what "you could have been" and focus on what you have achieved and still can achieve! Your life isn't over although I know it can feel like this when you are in such a dark place.

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cottonreels · 06/09/2011 20:45

Glitterand glue - everytime I read a post on this thread and think thats a really good point/good advice, its you who's said it. Will look out for you again (not in a scary sort of a way Grin)

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IHeartKittensAndWine · 06/09/2011 20:35

glitterandglue, you've captured it perfectly.

I'm feeling a lot less panicky since I came on here, thanks guys. It was very much on edge don't know how i'm going to get myself home panicy.

The thing is I am kind of a failure. I was so so so bright at school, and not just in a do-well way but in a creative take risks way. I went to Oxford and tried to work hard for a term, and then I thought I'd go mad with boredom and lonliness if I carried on like that so threw myself into various distractions. I had an opportunity at a good career, something where I have a lot of natural talent, after I left and I blew it. Spectacularly. (This was where depression mark one came in). I've done ok since then but never quite been the person I could have been. It gnaws, occassionally, and right now it hurts a lot.

Sorry, I know this sounds like waffling self pity. I've just had this in my head for so long and I'm going to have to talk to someone professional about it and it really helps to type it out.

Thank you.

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HowlingBitch · 06/09/2011 20:34

Have sent you a PM IHeart.

Listen to these smart women! You will get through this.

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funnypeculiar · 06/09/2011 20:31

I just want to add to the list of people reading what you are writing, & seeing an emotionally aware, thoughtful & engaging woman.

As people have said, so much of your relationships is formed by your relationships with your parents - 'saying' they are proud of you doesn't make it feel real - words are cheap & all that.....

And that whole mates thing - you know, of my 4 best mates (who I've known for 20 years & seen through thick & thin) only one of them will contact me spontaneously. After 20 years of this Smile I've realised it's not because they're out having fun without me (my paranoid voice) they're just a bit pants.

Your 'best' mate sounds like a knob.

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brighthair · 06/09/2011 20:24

I felt like this 4 years ago and was diagnosed with panic disorder and generalised anxiety
It reached a low when I realised I would rather drive into a wall than have another panic attack
Fast forward to now and with medication and CBT I am nearly there. It's hard, I know
Talking helps, exercise too. Are you feeling sort of on edge panicky or just low?

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Glitterandglue · 06/09/2011 20:22

It sounds like you've had quite low self-esteem for a very long time. That's an issue on its own but because you're so used to considering yourself in that way, you don't identify it as one, or see how it affects how you approach things. Then when the depression hits, that gets amplified a thousand times and suddenly you feel totally unworthy and like generally you've never been good enough. Right?

It is a feeling. It's not a fact. So you need some way of changing the feeling to reflect the reality (which is that you are totally a worthy person because everyone has something to contribute, no matter how small, almost nobody (possibly nobody at all) is beyond hope of being 'good' and clearly there are people who do care about you, like your DH and your parents).

Find the evidence and concentrate on it. Photographs of nights out/birthdays/Christmas/weddings and so on. Texts from someone saying, "It was great seeing you today!" Facebook messages saying thanks for the present. Letters about general nonsense. Anything that is evidence that people love you and care for you. If you were really unworthy, they wouldn't bother with you. Maybe one person or two that everyone knows sticks around out of habit but not everyone they know, not by far.

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cottonreels · 06/09/2011 20:16

tut - there not their.
Sorry, am typing slowly.
We can all be a twat sometimes. But really, your friends dont have to be friends with you they are choosing to.
I have habits that I love. I love my habits thats why they are a habit. Im rambling. I think your DH would like you to disclose how youre feeling. Write that letter and ask him to help you, to smother you with kindness and nurture your soul.

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