to wonder who the bloody hell keeps P60s for donkey's years?

[Seepage]

Because I don't.

And what the bloody hell am I supposed to do now?

Fucking unreasonable bloody bastard Tax office dickheads.

[alwaysonthemove]

yeah you can REQUEST it, getting it can be another matter. I've been doing so since 2008 for one I was never sent from one employer (or got lost in the post, but knowing said employer...). So not technically a replacement I suppose. I shall continue to bug them......

[BlueCat2010]

You can actually get replacements nowadays - times past you couldn't because it wasn't a document you were allowed to duplicate, but this has all changed now and you can request a copy from your employer.

[PreviouslyonLost]

TalkinPeace2 Great post... and I will bear all that you have said in mind when I finally get around to putting in my rebate claim.

Can I presume that while they are holding 'your' money to ransom due to 'reconciling' it they aren't liable for 'accrued' interest?

Death and Taxes indeed

[TalkinPeace2]

By a combination of bluster, bullshit and demanding records from the banks as far as I can see.
I have three clients who are owed a total of over £10,000 - some of it dating back 5 years.
HMRC admit they owe it but until they can "reconcile it" to the penny will cough up nothing.
So the clients have stopped paying all other taxes due up to those amounts and have said to the debt collection arm - see you in court we'll call the Daily Mail
so far so quiet !!

[PreviouslyonLost]

TalkinPeace2 Sounds worse than I thought...I have until next year to get my 'documents' in so better get a move on then

How on earth do they manage to track down people who owe tax then?

[TalkinPeace2]

Previously
they DO NOT have the info - at least not in a format that they can retrieve it in your lifetime
they have "archived" all records before 2006 - even the ones relating to current complaints
officers I am dealing with are having to go through old rolls of microfiche film for stuff only 8 years old

[PreviouslyonLost]

TalkinPeace2 I know all about HMRC's reputation hence my avoidance slight delay in writing to them about MY rebate I am thinking lovely brightly coloured stationery, and maybe even a hint of perfume sprayed on the envelope, just so my letter might be noticed in the piles of mail I'm sure they receive daily.

The point is they already DO have the info - just not good at sharing with people who by some chance have lost/mislaid documents.

Has Seepage left their job? I didn't pick that up from posts?

[Yama]

I know this is a serious thread but can I just say that I love the use of 'donkey's years'?

I have kept my P60's since 19 Canteen.

[TalkinPeace2]

It is rather annoying that HMRC already have the info...can't take more than a few clicks on their computers to access it?

You have clearly never dealt with HMRC
they are crap beyond belief - and to a level they will NEVER accept from taxpayers - at collating records

It is your legal responsibility
Once you have left a company they only have a duty of care, not a responsibility

[PreviouslyonLost]

LineRunner mentioned it...only TWO unavoidable things in life 'Death and Taxes'.

Guaranteed to find missing P60, after you no longer need it of course. Get onto employer - it's not a substitute P60 they issue, just a printout, but will have all the info HMRC require.

Positive thinking regarding rebate

[Seepage]

i'll be fucked if it's not. I suspect the 18 months I spent studenting (after the requested date )will confuse them.

[PreviouslyonLost]

Seepage It is rather annoying that HMRC already have the info...can't take more than a few clicks on their computers to access it?

Hope it is a rebate...fingers crossed for you.

[Seepage]

Previously (excellent name BTW) - so glad i'm not the only one.

I don't know why I need it. Just got a letter from the tax bods asking for it. Sincerely hope they want to give me money rather than taking it off me. If it is the former I may have to go and live in a teepee in Wales.

[LineRunner]

Seepage It's stuff like this that makes me want to run off to live in a teepee in Wales.

In reality I have boxes of paperwork cluttering up the house. One is called 'Death and Taxes'. I hurl my P60s contemptuously into there every year. In between the cats nest on top of them.

I'm sure your employer will try to give you a copy if you ask. Good luck.

[Bellavita]

I keep P60's for ages...

[alwaysonthemove]

Fabby, when it my mum was claiming against her employers, their ability to provide her with copies of things she needed suddenly changed and records were water damaged/ lost / on the old system...... if you are claiming something usually YOU have to provide proof rather than the body you're claiming against having to prove that they don't owe you IYKWIM. Similarly with my CCJ, it was my ex land lady who nicked my identity and caused me to have it, what do you think the chances of her providing me with copies of our agreements re bills would have been if I hadn't had my own copy on file eh?

[PreviouslyonLost]

Seepage 'Must try to be less crap'...Nah, just keep being good at the things you're good at

I don't do numbers unless I'm forced to either.

TalkinPeace2 I was the poster who had problems with mat. leave pay - OP hasn't said why they need P60. My employer continued to pay me during M.L. I had collected first 3 months payslips (two of which had been opened...a whole other thread) and % of wage was on them) never received any more slips so was a while before I realised. Payed back money owed but only after H.R decided 500 pounds a month was a reasonable amount to deduct without my permission sharpish!

[Seepage]

attatched and probably filed in the same place unfortunately.

[DaisySteiner]

The info from your P60 should be on the March 2009 payslip, as this is usually the final payslip before the end of the tax year. P60 normally comes attached to the April payslip.

[Seepage]

new mantra


'Must try to be less crap'

[TalkinPeace2]

Fabby
DH had the problem that all of the records of one of his former employers "went on fire" - thank goodness we were self reliant

[FabbyChic]

You are supposed to keep them for six years. i.e the oldest is six years old.

You can request a copy from your employer.

[TalkinPeace2]

YABU
7 years is the standard
P60's take up little space - a lifetimes worth will fit in a large envelope
you want maternity pay, you sort out your paperwork
in the USA there is no such thing as maternity pay

if you have your P60's and p45s you do not need to keep pay slips - but check that you have the p60 or p45 to cover all payslips before having that bonfire

[alwaysonthemove]

my mum needed OLD pay slips etc AFTER she retired, couldnt get copies, if she hadn't kept them all (like I do) she'd have lost out on £££££s she was able to claim from her employer (for very complicated reasons). I also cleared a CCJ because of one slip of paper I had from a place I rented years previously. Without that I'ld have been stuck with it for years. KEEP THEM PEOPLE! I have all my payslips from my first job and travelling onwards

[PreviouslyonLost]

pleknittingmum Again, ME TOO!

Oh, but the agony of needing to claim on a warranty and it's the ONLY buggery bollocks receipt you CAN'T find...despite having other useless pieces of paper receipts dating back to when God was a boy.