AIBU to be very annoyed that I have just found a newspaper photo of my DC's on the internet.

[nolembit]

I have just been looking at our local paper online and found a picture of the entire school including my DC's with the local MP.

I fill in a photographic permission slip every year which states that my DC's picture cannot be used on the web.

I am fuming and don't know whether to speak to the school or the newspaper. I am also annoyed that this put's me in a very difficult position wrt other parents/school as they will not have the opportunity to take another picture without my DC's. I am so mad in fact I am livid!!!!!!!

[motherinferior]

The school didn't have control over the photos. That's the point. So the only way to prevent these photos going on the internet is by saying no photos. Which is perfectly feasible.

[sapphirestar]

We don't find those parents a 'PITA' in my school. We triple-check we have permission before photos go on the website

[motherinferior]

The thing is, it's not the school's fault - it's a horrible glitch because the newspaper's online version used those pics (and that is what you have to expect, I'm afraid, if a newspaper takes a pic). It is perfectly possible to find pics of my kids, and children whose families I've interviewed, splashed all over the internet because of the online versions of those features.

If this worries you, you need to be clear with the school that your children aren't photographed.

In this case, though, I think the risks of them being identified are, fortunately, minimal.

[GnomeDePlume]

It isnt for a bunch of randoms on MN to decide whether or not opting out of school photographs will provide OP with good security. I am quite sure that the OP is capable of (and will have done so) putting in place the appropriate security measures.

The point here is that the OP made a request to the school via the school's own procedures. The school has monumentally cocked up. It doesnt matter whether this was 'dont photograph my child' or 'dont give my child nuts' this was one of those things a school should not get wrong.

The OP should be furious with the school and make sure they know this is a huge error on their part. The school should not only be apologising to OP but also putting in place new measures to ensure this doesnt happen again.

If they cant do this then the photo permission slips might as well be hung on a nail in the school lavatories.

[honeyandsalt]

A1980 - if you had read your electoral registration form properly, you'd have seen that you can opt out of the publically-searchable electoral register. I'm not sure what purpose your post, and many others' on this board, has served other than as a rather despicable attempt to terrify the OP. FFS.

[lulalullabye]

DrPolidori well said!!!

[DrPolidori]

Obviously I meant those who said "No" rather than "know".

Bah. too cross to write properly.

[DrPolidori]

For those of you who seem to have less than one brain cell, if a school asks for your permission to photograph your children, it automatically leads one to suppose those who say know will have their wishes adhered to.

duh. Not about growing up, love, about following procedure. And Shtiv. Love. Have you not read all the many reasons given on this thread about why people do not want their children identified in a photo published outside of school?

Ooh, let me guess, you didn't read the whole thread.

Just to recap/

Looked after children
Children at risk from abusive parents (see DV)
Children at risk because of their parents jobs (Pace working with offenders)
Children whose parents JUST DONT WANT THEIR KIDS PICTURES SPLATTERED OVER THE LOCAL PRESS.

Just because it doesn't come within your radar, doesn't mean its unreasonable.


And WTF does it matter to you if people don't want their kids photographed?

[Shtiv]

Why do you even care? Some people get hung up on the most ridiculous things. What do you think is going to happen if a picture of your child is on the internet? Grow up love.

[SpareRoomSleeper]

Cant believe some people on here think its ok for a school to breach a parents trust in this manner. Its absolutely bloody appalling, and OP, kick off a big stinking fuss so that it never happens again. Sod the other parents, I'm sure no one elses dc's have parents who worked with convicted pedos. And didnt the school know your individual circumstances and were extra careful because of it?

Like I said, big stinking fuss!

[sunnydelight]

YANBU because you ticked the box that said you do not give permission, consequences/ramifications are to a certain extent irrelevant. If there is an option to withhold permission there needs to be systems in place to prevent things like this from happening.

[A1980]

YANBU because you have said that you object.

However I don;t think you DC's are at risk from a random photo with other children in it. How would your husbands old client's know to look for it unless they knew of its existence?

Are you and your husband on the electoral role? Well I'm assuming these "client's" know your husbands real name. The electoral role can be searched quickly, easily and cheaply. You kick off and get the photo taken down, bar your children from being in any more photos and meanwhile the ex client's get his address from the electoral role and find out everyhting that way. See you leaving in the morning and know exactly which school they go to?

Chilling? Yes, but entirely plausible and easy to do. I think your concern is misplaced, there are easier ways of finding your DC's without a random newspaper photo the ex client's dont know about.

[Pleb1969]

I have worked in primary schools and ANY outside agencies that may take photos would not have any access to children that we did not have permission to use photos of - this meant that those children had to be occupied elsewhere when certain activites were being photographed but that was to ensure we complied with the parent's wishes. It does not matter what the reason is, if that is the parent's wish you have to respect it.

[tjacksonpfc]

You have just said in a large school, the op said that her dcs are at a small village school. Like wise the school i photograph for is a small village school of less then 90 children so it is very easy to distinguish individuals faces in a whole school photo.

I would love to know aswell just out of interest how you know parents are being precious. Does the parents have to put a reason on your opt out forms or does your school not bother with these?

[glassescase]

PS, the views expressed on here are my own- but I know others agree with me...

[glassescase]

Now that is a rather general statement, tjacksonpfc!
If you read carefully, you will find that at no time did I say that my school, or any other should ignore the wishes of the parent. My comments were that I feel the risk posed by a small, un-named photo are small, and that if someone wished to find a child there are other methods which could be used.
There are parents who ask that their children are not photographed who are just being precious.
In a large school, these demands are unwieldy and difficult to implement. Photographs are taken all the time, for all sorts of reasons, and often by the children themselves- whatever rules the school has- and many of these end up on the internet. It would be interesting to know whether anything untoward has ever happened; though I would hesitate to ask the question as it will be misinterpeted. I am not thinking here of paedophile behaviour.
And you will be pleased to hear that all inspections passed with flying colours.

[tjacksonpfc]

I can't beleive what I am reading on here being written by glassescase onsidering she works in a school.

Op you are so not being unreasonable I take pictures for a school by me for their use and the school website. I have a list of a couple of children who are unable to be in the photos. What I do is do all my photo editing on the school premises, The memory card that I use never leaves the school unless we are on a school trip in which case it is in my camera and never out of my hand or sight so no one could access it.

There are reasons why the parents of the children have opted out of their dcs being photographed. Who the hell has the right to go against what they say. What would happen glassescase if one of the pita precious parents as you called them had a photo of their dcs published against their wishes and, God forbid something happened to their dc!!!!!.

Out of interest glassescase are you in a school that has recently failed an ofsted inspection because listening to you, Your school has got no concern for teh safeguarding and wwlfare of the children that are meant to be in its care.

[MynameisnotEarl]

My DD is a teacher and often photographs the children working on projects, on school trips etc. But she is very aware that some in her class must never be photographed or can only appear from the back in pictures. It is vitally important that this rule is adhered to and all staff are made aware of it.

Tbh, I don't think it's easy at all to have it both ways - photographed but not shown iyswim. Either allow them to be photographed or veto it.

[NotaDisneyMum]

I wouldn't want you anywhere near my kids either glasses - do you consider yourself more knowledgable the parents who tell the school about allergies or other risky medical conditions? I assume that you consider them to be precious PITA too?

My DDs school is excellent at managing this - parental photos are restricted at performances, and at Sports Day parents were specifically reminded to avoid taking photos with other children in, and that the Internet is no place to put photos of other peoples children, so don't !

OP - YANBU and I would be apoplectic if this happened to me/DD

[GnomeDePlume]

OP YANBU

My DCs attended a primary school where there were a number of child protection issues which meant that certain children could not be photographed. I went in a couple of times to to take photographs. The children who couldnt be photographed were very sensitively removed from shot. In fact sometimes it was so sensitively done I didnt see it actually happen!

Some schools take this seriously and deal with it well.

[whackamole]

nolembit YANBU

glassescase are you being deliberately obtuse? Apart from anything else, if the school has an opt-out clause then surely they should be following their own policy?

[thefirstMrsDeVere]

'easy to be sneery'

sort of feels like a MNs motto sometimes.

[Kewcumber]

I understand you think that glasses. But you have no right to ignore paretns wishes in this case however precious you think they are being.

Perhaps they have a policy of not going out with their father in their uniform? Thast for him to sort out (as I said earlier) its not for the school to be applying some kind of reasonableness test and making their own decisions about what is and isn't being precious.

And the argument about there possibly being photos of them on teh intenet posted by other people is irrelevant. It doesn't give the school carte blanche to ignore the parents just because someone else might have been an arse and posted photos of someone elses child on an open forum.

I have a friend with a verging on pathological fear of photos of her DS getting onto the internet. Partly with good cause and partly probably her being a bit precious. But she's being a bit precious because the outsome could be horrendous and taking even a tiny risk of that is not something she is prepared to do.

Easy to be sneery and blase about it when it isn't a situation you've been in yourself.

[TheOriginalFAB]

I had agreed to ds1 being photographed but not dd or ds2. DS1 subsequently was chosen to be in the paper and later dd wasn't. The head rather pointedly said "FabGirl couldn't be in the paper as you hadn't given permission." I felt awful but we had our reasons and the head wouldn't know them and isn't interested as doesn't like me

[glassescase]

Pin0t- reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly hope so too! However, I am not alone in my opinion. I do think that a small, un-named photo presents little risk. It's true they could be seen out with the OP's DH quite easily.