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to dread the idea that DP might one day have to make an important decision about my or DD's life ......

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FindingMyMojo · 29/09/2010 10:30

Big of a rant but I'm also seriously questioning my relationship (and am also very hormonal) .....

Our car needed £2k spent to get an MOT so it had to go. We were advised to put it into an auction as it would fetch a few quid, being essentially a good car. Great mechanic fixer upper etc.

The car sold last night - on it's 5th auction. I left DP to take care of the sale etc but it didn't sell initially - I couldn't figure out why. After the 4th auction he tells me he put a reserve of £750 on it!!!!!! DP eventually reduced the reserve to £400 & car sold for £475. He was originally told by the garage he'd "get about £500 in an auction" so the experts were spot on. Pity DP choose to ignore them and think he knows better. Great I say so after commission we'll get over £400 - good step towards a new car. Except NO - there is a £30 per auction charge. 5 auctions x £30 = £150.

PLUS as it took 2 weeks to sell he has to pay another months insurance £50, plus another months parking permit we don't get refunded - about £10. So because he decided against expert advice and my opinion, to put a reserve on of £750 AND LEFT THAT RESERVE ON FOR FOUR AUCTIONS (I am shouting) we get less than half what we would have.

It's not a huge amount of money - really not a big deal. EXCEPT I now think he's a total moron. How did I not know this about him before??? I have been trying to figure out exactly what his thought process was, how did he make these decisions? The conclusion I keep coming back to is he ignored expert opinion and advice, ignored me, ignored simple mathematical sums, and put the car into the auction with a stupid unobtainable and unrealisitic reserve price, knowing full well that selling at auction was pretty much the only option left for the car.

So he took all that information and made the worlds stupidest decisions - one after another, all the while avoiding my questions, avoiding mentioning costs other than the sales commission of 10%. OK, so put it in at £750, but then knowing you were charged £30 per auction wouldn't you lower the reserve the first time it didn't sell???? Would anyone with a modicum of intelligence leave it in there for FOUR auctions??? And he didn't tell me about all this until last night when the information drip drip dripped it's way to me.

I can't even look at him at the moment. I am seriously questioning his intelligence, thought processes and ability to make a reasoned decision. God forbid he would ever have to make an important decision about/for me or DD. I do not trust him to do so. I just think he's moronic - and that is dreadful. It's not like I had him up on a pedastal or anything before, but I don't think it's unreasonable to think this simple task would be handled much better than it was. Or at least to see a little logic applied to the decision making process. He won't talk about it further without getting grumpy now.

He's done similar things at work a few times. Been in full knowledge of certain facts and then made on the spot decisions ignoring every fact that HE KNOWS making a stupid decision that is swiftly revealed to be completely wrong and he looks really bloody stupid.

I accepted early on that I would have to handle family finances etc as it's far from his strong point, but now I feel as If I have to do everything & I hate it. And I also want some kind of legal paperwork in place so he can't make any important decisions about my life should I fall ill. I simply don't trust his decision making process.

AIBU to be so fucked off about this? And how do I stop looking at him and seeing someone I just don't know (or even worse, don't want to know)?

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Morloth · 29/09/2010 12:56

Bet you wouldn't have been pissed off if someone did decide to pay £750 for it.

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Needanewname · 29/09/2010 13:00

Oh dear, I think we all have moments like this, but OP your post was brilliant.

You will get over it because you know he is basically a decent bloke.

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OrmRenewed · 29/09/2010 13:03

Wow!

Shock

There must be more to it than this. Surely?

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FindingMyMojo · 29/09/2010 13:03

morloth I would have been over the moon I guess but we were both well aware there was a snowballs chance in hell of that happening. I was thinking we'd be lucky to get £200 for it, which in the end we did.

But I am starting to see that he didn't want to believe that (his car has been very 'precious' to him over the years) and perhaps that was where his decision making came from. Still why leave it for 4 auctions @ £30 a pop ??

the money aspect is trivial really - yes we are skint and carless but I'm not really money focused person & seriously I'm not bothered by that.

The issue for me is that I don't understand how in the possession of all the information he had, he made the decisions he did. It's not like he acted rashly - he THOUGHT about this stuff & then acted. I find that a frightening aspect of his personality.

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OrmRenewed · 29/09/2010 13:06

"I guess I feel like anything important for our family, nuts & bolts stuff, comes down to me to sort out/organise/decide & that is exhausting & not how I imagined it would be. And it's not like it's what I'm particulalry good at either, but if I don't do it it won't happen."

Aha! Pregnancy and the above would explain it then.

DH is more or less the same. But I have been passing a bit more along to him now he's working shorter hours and it's eased the tension a lot. But I guess the rub is that when he does things 'wrong' I have to accept them.

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FindingMyMojo · 29/09/2010 13:07

thanks needa

Orm only in that there is more to every relationship. I've just realised (above) that actually I feel very frightened by this part of his personality. I feel like I can't rely on him to think, analyse and act in accordance with reason & sense when required. It just seems so erratic & out there to me.

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Snorbs · 29/09/2010 15:05

On the occasions that the car didn't reach the £750 reserve how high did the bids go?

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FindingMyMojo · 29/09/2010 15:21

I don't know. Do they even bother bidding lower than £750? I would think they start opening bids at the reserve but I've never been to a car auction so really have no idea. They didn't call DP to tell him (only when it sold) and if he asked he's not shared that info - but I don't think he did.

I guess deep down it's been traumatic for him accepting the car is over & out, whereas I actually thought he was handling it really well & being mature about it.

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shell96 · 29/09/2010 15:32

i know what you mean. My DP is great in many ways but a disaster when it comes to money. He buries his head in the sand at any sign of problems until it gets out of hand and i have to sort it out. This is why we have a pretty complicated mix of joint and personal finances but it works for us and thats what is important.

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marriednotdead · 29/09/2010 15:50

I'm pretty sure they start the bidding at whatever they can, but when the price is not met, then declare the item unsold at the end of the bidding for it IYSWIM.

It does sound as if you're slightly overreacting unless this is the straw that broke the camel's back. He sounds like he ticks most of the positive boxes.

Have been through similar angst with DH over the only things he had financial control of at our wedding. He's now reached the point where he admits that I'm better at dealing with ALL our finances, although I tell 'consult' him about some things sometimes, mainly to make him feel less useless tbh.

The hard bit is not flinging it in his face if he threatens to do something similar again Grin

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minipie · 29/09/2010 16:02

"minipie he very rarely makes decisions. I think it's middle child in a large family syndrome."

Um, is it possible that this is exactly why he doesn't make very good decisions when he does make them? Maybe you should get him to make more decisions ... practice makes perfect!

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Chandon · 29/09/2010 16:07

well, either it is his car and then it`s HIS choice.

Or it is your car, in which case why did you not do the auction yourself?

or is it a 50-50 owned car?

Why did he do it actually, and not you?

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FindingMyMojo · 29/09/2010 16:56

it's a joint car at this stage, though his initially. I've paid out enough for it over the last few years to claim it as 'mine' if I wanted to, but it was ours - our family car.

chandon I do pretty much everything re running of the home, insurances etc & family! I have organised every holiday we've had (and funded it by scrimping & saving over the year), every birthday, all the childcare etc etc. I didn't hesitate in thinking he could handle selling a car at an auction.

He expects me to pay for a replacement & as reduncancy is looming I want to wait in case he is made redundant. If he is we need to keep our overheads down esp as I will be on Stat maternity pay from April. He actually can't afford to run and maintain a car (or even half one really), but together we can if we are both working.

minipie good idea. I left him to sort out the car insurance, compare quotes etc as he just renewed last year & so was paying over the odds & we need to avoid doing this. It was too much for him - seriously using the price comparison websites was too much. He just gave up & renewed at extra cost. Now I think I know he's not an idiot - so why does he bottle it & behave like one? What annoys me is he ears so little but spends like he earns a lot more and then wonders why he has no money.

What frightens me is can I really really on this person?

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FindingMyMojo · 29/09/2010 16:58

rely!

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FindingMyMojo · 29/09/2010 17:02

(sorry I'm tired & can't think how to spell a basic word - bugga)

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minipie · 29/09/2010 18:07

Do you think this is something you can talk to him about ... without using words like "moron" obviously, but instead saying "I just want to understand how you ended up doing that, I know we all sometimes just take the easiest route or don't want to admit we were wrong, is that what it was?"

Difficult I suppose now that he is cross... but maybe next time he does something stupid seemingly inexplicable?

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IUsedToBeFab · 29/09/2010 18:11

How to you get from DP didn't do the sensible thing when selling a car to he won't make the right decision if me or the kids are ill?

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BoneyBackJefferson · 29/09/2010 18:30

From the sound of your posts OP you sound really controlling.

Sorry if I'm wrong.

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redskyatnight · 29/09/2010 18:41

Interesting that you say that the car was "precious" to him. Maybe at some level he really wanted to keep it (however irrational he knew that was in his head). My DH used to have a motorbike. He rode it about 3 times a year but we had to pay to have it insured, serviced etc. Eventually DH agreed that it was sensible to sell it. He then procrastinated and put lots of barriers in his own way. He did say in the end that he was delaying the inevitable and that he knew it was stupid but it was hard to part with it. I wonder if your DH has made sort of similar decision e.g. the car is "worth" £750 to him so he thinks it ought to be worth that to others, regardless of what experts say.

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FindingMyMojo · 30/09/2010 10:31

redsky yes I think you are right. When we talked of the car going he played it so cool - in fact we discussed how I was more upset at the loss of the car than he was!! It's was all a clever disguise I think.

BBJ I don't think I'm controlling, though I as I said earlier I do feel that most decisions that have to be made re our family & life have to be driven by me. I would certainly prefer more of an equal share of the load with DP, but he hates to make decisions or bring about any form of change. And I've given an example in the OP as to how weird his decision making process can be.

Most of the time I'm pretty easy going. We do need to make some serious changes in our lives though in the next year - whereas I'd like to work as a team, talk things through, share the necessary research and then make decisions together, it can feel like I'm banging my head against the wall, or worse that I end up dragging DP behind me, like a bloody albatross. When we've made changes in the past he has often been unhelpful during the process, and then very thankful to me once the change was made. I guess an analogy of the differences in our personalities, is I can see (for example)a run down property and I see the structure is sound & the problems cosmetic, with a little clean & decoration it will be absolutely lovely, whereas he would look at anything that wasn't already is tip top condition as an unhabitable disaster to be avoided at all costs.

I accept that he has quite a 'fixed' aspect to his personality, but the acceptance doesn't mean I often feel like I'm struggling with stuff alone, that should be shared.

I'm feeling much better today than yesterday & have worked this largely out of my system. Many thanks to all who've replied to me - it's really helped process everything.

DP is doing lots of overtime this week - we'll talk stuff over the weekend, but I'll be gentle. Smile I'm not angry, a little exasperated I guess. A lot of it is about acceptance of things I don't understand (my instinct is initially to really want to try & find a way to understand). I still think his behaviour re the car was moronic, though I know HE's NOT a moron. There's a difference.

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