Any dairy free/soya free bakers?

[Dorisday13]

What's the best alternative for baking? Oat milk? Rice milk? I'm trying to make savory muffins :-) x

[MadMonkeys]

I've made rice pud with oatly milk, works fine. If you suit it 30 minutes into the cooking time it goes more creamy. Dd2 likes St Dalfour apricot spread (sugar free and yum yum yummy) so I sometime mix a bit in when its cooked. They do loads of other fruit spreads too but she hasn't tried any yet as we're introducing things painfully slowly after the pure olive experience!

[MadMonkeys]

Stir it, not suit it... :)

[Dorisday13]

Does oatley cream contain calcium? Sorry I know this thread is about baking but from the balanced diet part of it that would be handy!

I need to email them to ask about the palm oil thing

[MrsAVB]

Ooh am loving this thread!
For baking I use half Cookeen and half vitalite marg. Also, a tip from my local (award winning) baker, was, when making dairy free cakes, use icing sugar instead of caster/ granulated. Something to do with the consistency apparently. Although I've tried it and it didn't seem to make much difference.
Coconut milk is nice for hot puddings; rice pudding, bread and butter pudding etc.

[MadMonkeys]

The oatly in blue cartons is fortified with calcium. The organic version (in a green carton I think, although I never buy it so not sure) doesn't appear to be fortified. I made a dairy and soy free lasagne tonight - made white sauce with oatly and didn't put any cheese in. It was surprisingly nice! The sauce is fiendishly simple - put oatly in a saucepan, add some flour then gently heat while whisking continuously. As it comes to the book it thickens. Voila! Then you can add anything you like to flavour it. Maybe cheezly would work although I haven't managed to get hold of any yet.

Also made bread in my breadmaker - omitted the milk powder and used block stork instead of butter. Not bad! Can anyone recommend a dairy and soy free commercial bread? We're going away in a few weeks and I can take my breadmaker if I really have to but it would be nice not too! The car will full of oatly as it is...!

[CouthyMow]

Commercial bread - Warburton's Gluten free, wheat free bread is also dairy and soy free - at least the white sliced is.

Be warned though - they only come as half loaves, with half sized slices too - and are criminally expensive - £2.48 for a half sized slice half loaf!!

[MadMonkeys]

You're a seasoned pro at this allergy lark aren't you Couthy! Thanks

[redwellybluewelly]

We get Genius bread - also jaw dropping expensive but DH makes his own bread which DD can eat. He just doesn't make it often enough!

[Dorisday13]

Thanks! I do look out for the calcium label I think I'll try cooking with the milk again, I hadn't even thought of bread!! Does normal bread have soya in it? Sorry to sound dense!

Couthy wondered if you knew of any dfsf transportable non fridge snack type item for holiday, preferably high calcium??

[Dorisday13]

Oh also is there a dfsf vegetarian sausage?

[janey223]

My favourite dfsf bread is tesco finest oat & something one, its lovely! They're discount brand (those random cheap brands they do) whole meal I think is also dfsf. Waitrose do a dfsf 50/50 type and m&s too.

I make bread a lot but the tesco oat one is £1 at the moment so I've been buying that!

[CouthyMow]

All 'normal' bread has soy lecithin in as a preservative. I find genius crumbles when you try to butter it.

In fact, I always freeze at least half the loaf in freezer bags - I put two or four slices in a bag (two slices is one portion for DS3, four slices is one portion for DS1).

As for calcium - I don't tend to look at the calcium content of snacks, as I make up DS3's calcium with broccoli and spinach. You'd be surprised at how much calcium there is in them if you use steamed broccoli and very lightly wilted spinach!

I will have a nosy.

I DO use Honey loops or fruit loops as a snack, and they have added calcium. I just put a handful or two in a snack pot.

There's very few dfsf cereals, but these two are. (And lots of the ones that ARE dfsf have been manufactured on equipment previously used for nuts, which counts them out for DS3.)

[CouthyMow]

My Tesco extra has stopped all the random budget brands. Which is irritating as DS3 could have the cheap jammy dodgers, but he can't have the branded ones. I'm on my last pack of them!

[CouthyMow]

Dfsf veggie sausage? I don't know. I can have a look when I go shopping next. I would imagine that might be hard as most veggie sausages use soy in one firm or another instead of meat.

Are you a veggie family then, Doris? I would imagine it is hard to balance dfsf with that. Maybe it's not as hard as I think though - I personally would be screwed for protein for DS3 if we were veggie, as he can't have any nut products either. I guess that does make it far harder!

[CouthyMow]

When I say I freeze the GF bread, I toast it straight from frozen. That way it doesn't crumble in the toaster.

Other transportable non-fridge snacks :

• The fruit hearts / stars / strings.
• Value range biscuits, but check which ones - the bourbon creams and digestives are fine from Tesco. Also Tesco own 'Oaties' are fine (their version of hobnobs).
• Baby Organix crisps (the red, pink or orange ones) and biscuits.
• Baby fruit pots - surprisingly transportable as they don't need a fridge, and lots have added calcium and vitamins. Not all flavours though, as some have dairy or soy lecithin.
• Ella's kitchen fruit squeezers.
• GF pancakes, that are also dfsf.
• Most strawberry lace sweets are dfsf. As are Jelly tots.
• Raisins.
• Fruit - I use a lot of tinned fruit as well as fresh.
• Orgran mini animals, I get them in multipacks from Sainsbury's.
• Kellog's honey loops and fruit loops.

Hope that's a large enough selection!

[CouthyMow]

Mad - I've been doing GF for 6 years now (DS1), and I've been doing DFSF for two years now for DS3, and nut free for DS3 for over a year!

It's second nature to allow at least 4-5 hours a week for shopping, across at least two supermarkets a week, and obsessively label-read.

ALWAYS look out for 'new', 'improved recipe', 'better taste' and other things like that on labels of products that you have used happily in the past - it may mean that a food that was 'safe' before may not be, as the recipe may have changed to add something that you are trying to avoid.

[janey223]

Most do couthy, the tesco finest oat, spelt and barely definitely does not.

For cereals we have coco pops, rice crispies & weetabix at the moment.

DS still has 2 small bottles and one big a day + fortified cereal + broccoli & cabbage, he also has a cup of decaf tea with oatly. He's not really drinking his morning milk anymore so I'm going to have to start buying some rice cheese

[janey223]

Couthy I thought jammy doggers were df/sf? Maybe it's the mini ones but I'm sure iwas told one variety of them was!

[CouthyMow]

Nope - they both have butter in! The cheapy ones are made with veg oil instead.

[CouthyMow]

Didn't think to look at oaty bread. Will have a nosy, it might have been discounted for another reason, for DS3 though - I have a suspicion that that may well he the bread that I was dancing around Tesco over, as it was so much cheaper than GF bread, only to find out that it has a 'May contain traces of nuts' warning.

(The nut allergy discounts stuff that IS dfsf. Righteous PITA!)

[CouthyMow]

Think coco shred does are also dfsf, but don't quote me on that, check for yourself too, as I don't have a pack in the cupboard currently!

[CouthyMow]

Gag! Shred does = Shreddies!

[CouthyMow]

Gag = Gah.

Autocorrect hates me today!

[Dorisday13]

Wow thanks that's great! I had bought some fruit pots and rice cakes, had banked on lots of fruit

We're veggie but I admit I have relaxed on fish recently after going sf as well as df, we also try to live cheaply and simply so I've never been much into the meat substitutes anyway.
Initially I did worry about protein but dd dietitian said all the protein req is supplied my breastmilk at the moment as I'm still bf on demand, so that's all ok.
Dd dietitian is concerned the calcium as cant be 100% sure of calcium content of my milk even though its probably fine, I just spoke to her and she's now recommended the redwood wot no dairy dessert pots as loads of calcium, no I have to find them or buy online interestingly dietitian has never batted an eyelid an the vegetarian thing, and admittedly it's been easier than I thought.

Interesting about the bread though, dd seems ok with normal bread but sick when she has actual soya milk, maybe to do with amount?

[Dorisday13]

We have shreddies they are just wheat