Dishy Rishi is only 5ft5 !!

[newcarcoming]

He's dinky!!

He looks so much taller!!

[PolkadotZebras]

[quote YukoandHiro]@TheViewFromDownHere I've had all that too - plus being physically picked up by men without consent. Which isn't "hilarious", it's basically a form of harassment.

My absolute top hatred is "what's the weather like down there?" People say this without thinking and seem to believe it's utterly hysterical and that I've never heard it before [/quote]
Or, they see that you're someone who coild get annoyed or upset by that kond of nonsense so they say these things on purpose to irritate you. Lightren uo a bit: none of this is that much of a big deal.

[PolkadotZebras]

@VladmirsPoutine

I think on the last page or so I asked the OP:

"Why do you refer to him as 'dishy'? There's something so distasteful about that."

She responded because it's what the press refers to him as; not her own personal opinion of him. So my comment was more about that.

Ah ok, my apologies. Reading it back I think you see through the façade also and were questioning why anyone should care if he is "dishy" or not (incidentally the answer is not! ) because the more important matter is what the billionnaire's husband has done to screw everyone over. I think we agree.

[VladmirsPoutine]

I think on the last page or so I asked the OP:

"Why do you refer to him as 'dishy'? There's something so distasteful about that."

She responded because it's what the press refers to him as; not her own personal opinion of him. So my comment was more about that.

[PolkadotZebras]

But the thread was about his height, so are you saying that post you made wasn't relevant to the thread? Or if there some connection between the subject and your post that you can explain?

[VladmirsPoutine]

In what respect does people observing that the Chancellor is very small explain those things?

I didn't say it did

[PolkadotZebras]

@VladmirsPoutine

Call me po-faced but I think it's this sort of thing why the tories are able to get away with a lot of the shit that they do. Indeed according to the last Britain Elects poll they were still ahead. That same 'bumbling fool' act which enamoured the masses to Boris who's turned out to be completely incompetent is the way it's headed with this dishi rishi rhetoric. Eat Out to Help Out was a complete disaster. It's almost as though the Brits like to suffer. That said, I'm not saying Starmer is the way forward either.

In what respect does people observing that the Chancellor is very small explain those things?

[PolkadotZebras]

Not the point of the discussion but this made me laugh, as post on a website aimed at mothers:

"It's like your eye colour - it's been with you from birth"

Your eye colour is NOT with you from birth. I take it you've not known many children! Eye colour changes over early childhood. But where it settles is largely genetic. Height is a combination of things: also mostly genetic but partly environmental factors too. I think it's a false equivalence and especially in the context of saying you are "born with it" when a child's final eye colour is something that is not evident but theoretically could be determined at birth by genetic analysis whereas their height as an adult could not be.

[VladmirsPoutine]

Call me po-faced but I think it's this sort of thing why the tories are able to get away with a lot of the shit that they do. Indeed according to the last Britain Elects poll they were still ahead. That same 'bumbling fool' act which enamoured the masses to Boris who's turned out to be completely incompetent is the way it's headed with this dishi rishi rhetoric. Eat Out to Help Out was a complete disaster. It's almost as though the Brits like to suffer. That said, I'm not saying Starmer is the way forward either.

[PolkadotZebras]

@OppsUpsSide

Why do you refer to him as 'dishy'? There's something so distasteful about that.

Because it rhymes with Rishi and he’s fairly pleasing on the eye (for a politician)

Has anyone noticed he has the same hair style as Keir Starmer? I saw another Labour chap on Andrew Marr this morning who had it too.

You need your eyes examined!

[OppsUpsSide]

Why do you refer to him as 'dishy'? There's something so distasteful about that.

Because it rhymes with Rishi and he’s fairly pleasing on the eye (for a politician)

Has anyone noticed he has the same hair style as Keir Starmer? I saw another Labour chap on Andrew Marr this morning who had it too.

[PolkadotZebras]

@VladmirsPoutine

Why do you refer to him as 'dishy'? There's something so distasteful about that.

Yeah. Especially because watching him reel out his nonsense is so nauseating.

Grim and baffling.

[newcarcoming]

@VladmirsPoutine purely because that is what the press call him.

I don't find him dishy in the slightest.

[VladmirsPoutine]

Why do you refer to him as 'dishy'? There's something so distasteful about that.

[PolkadotZebras]

@YukoandHiro

Follow your link and then read the next sentence. Big difference.

Average height of a woman of Japanese heritage is 4ft 9in.

I'm guessing you're an average height Caucasian woman who has never had the question "are you, like, literally a dwarf or something" asked of them more times than thy can count. Insulting to short people; VERY insulting to anyone who actually has the condition of dwarfism.

There are plenty of resources on and offline that state the fact that the medical definition of a dwarf in the UK is someone 4'10" or less. I appreciate that it may be different in other countries with different average genetic profiles but this is a UK website and a thread about a UK politician so most posters are discussing it in that context.

Whether you find it offensive or not does not change the fact that a height of 4'10" is an outlier here hence the definition. As it happens I'm very tall for a woman which comes with its own difficulties but I'm not so defensive about it as you seem to be. I appreciate that as I'm outside the average, many things (clothes, desks, kitchen worktops etc) are not designed to be perfect for me. That's life and that's fine. I was simply talking about averages, ranges, and medical definitions.

[YukoandHiro]

Follow your link and then read the next sentence. Big difference.

Average height of a woman of Japanese heritage is 4ft 9in.

I'm guessing you're an average height Caucasian woman who has never had the question "are you, like, literally a dwarf or something" asked of them more times than thy can count. Insulting to short people; VERY insulting to anyone who actually has the condition of dwarfism.

[PolkadotZebras]

@YukoandHiro

Oh do royally fuck off *@PolkadotZebras* - dwarfism isn't defined by being 4ft 10in. It's a disability related to growth hormones. Half of the women of Japan and China would be considered dwarves by your batshit ideas.

Do fuck off yourself.

www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dwarfism/symptoms-causes/syc-20371969

Plenty of medical sources online confirm that the definition is someone if a height if 4'10" (147cm) or less.

[TheViewFromDownHere]

@BillMasen

I think a lot of people will say what they think on here that that would never say out loud in real life

@TheViewFromDownHere it sounds rough mate. I’m 5’6” who’s is below average but not short short. I still got stick for it and recognise some of what you say. As I get older I have a lot more of a “fuck you” attitude, and more confidence to be me so it’s not been a thing, work wise or romantically, for years now.

I hope you can accept who you are, and be confident in that


To me, it's never been about "accepting who I am"

Most people have never consciously "accepted" that they were born with 2 hands - it's just how they are.

Why do I need to "accept" that the hole in my arse just happens to be nearer the ground than some people's?! - It's just how I am! :)

To me, "Accepting" something is like admitting there is a problem and then taking action to fix it.

Accepting you have a drink problem and weaning yourself off the bottle

Accepting you have a gambling problem and asking the bookies to close your account.

Being shorter than average is not a problem.

(it's an average, remember - that includes everyone, me as well! Maybe if they didn't bother to count all the short people, then the average height would be even taller - so more people would be classed as shorter than average!!) :)

People's people's attitudes to it is the problem - and that is not acceptable.

Yeah, I stopped giving a damn a long time ago.

Ironically that's probably another nail in the coffin as far as the romance stakes go as I've adopted a very cynical & sarcastic view of the world.

People aren't quite sure what to make of me sometime, but it's fun to see the look on their face as they try and decrypt my dead-pan attitude - They're not sure whether to laugh or get me the number for the Samaritans!

[BillMasen]

@CovidKingfisher

And then, from other threads in here - no romance history is usually met with calls of "This one's obviously broken - throw him back, you can do better for yourself, sister!"

I really would take what you read on here with a pinch of salt though. I don't think anyone in real life would think like that.

I think a lot of people will say what they think on here that that would never say out loud in real life

@TheViewFromDownHere it sounds rough mate. I’m 5’6” who’s is below average but not short short. I still got stick for it and recognise some of what you say. As I get older I have a lot more of a “fuck you” attitude, and more confidence to be me so it’s not been a thing, work wise or romantically, for years now.

I hope you can accept who you are, and be confident in that

[TheViewFromDownHere]

@CovidKingfisher

And then, from other threads in here - no romance history is usually met with calls of "This one's obviously broken - throw him back, you can do better for yourself, sister!"

I really would take what you read on here with a pinch of salt though. I don't think anyone in real life would think like that.

Oh I do.

And people of that mindset aren't for me anyway.

But increasingly as people turn to social platforms like this to air their views, coupled with the ease of online dating to go fishing for a better option.

It's like the reviews on Amazon or Ebay - Most of it's bull, but if people read a bad review - loads will give it a miss "just in case".

[CovidKingfisher]

And then, from other threads in here - no romance history is usually met with calls of "This one's obviously broken - throw him back, you can do better for yourself, sister!"

I really would take what you read on here with a pinch of salt though. I don't think anyone in real life would think like that.

[TheViewFromDownHere]

@YukoandHiro

PS *@TheViewFromDownHere* I'm sorry people have been so judgemental throughout your life. As a man, do you find it has affected friendships or just romance?

At the expense of this sounding all "woe is me", I would say it feels like it has ultimately affected my whole life.

And before everyone piles in with the short man syndrome & can't accept who I am type comments - On a personal level, I really don't care that I'm short - I actually don't know the difference or have anything to compare it with.

It's like your eye colour - it's been with you from birth. You don't even give it a second thought. And it makes absolutely no difference to what you see when you look out at the world.

It's only when the world looks back at you, they see that brown eyed girl and make their own judgements.

Same with me - When I look out at the world from down here, I see the same world that you all see from up there. It's only when the world looks back at me that they see a short person and make their own judgements.

But back to your question...

The bullying about my height began right back in school as what, back then, would be classed as simple "teasing"

"There there. Stop telling tales etc." (it was the 80's - Anti-Bullying policies weren't a thing!)

And that was the thin end of the wedge - Simple teasing about being the shortest kid in the class lead on to being picked on for any other minor infringement that kids pick up on at that age (wrong shoes, wrong parents, etc.)

And from there on, like everyone else that has ever been singled out by the bullies for whatever reason - it's just a one-way street - Once a few people start teasing about something - that teasing becomes full-on bullying.

And as everybody knows - it's uncool to be seen taking sides with (let alone dating!!) the dweeb - so more people join the bullies side and the void widens.

Then you reach adulthood with barely any friends & socially awkward because you've spent so long trying not to stick your head above the parapet that it just becomes part of who you are - And that's not conducive to romance either!

And then, from other threads in here - no romance history is usually met with calls of "This one's obviously broken - throw him back, you can do better for yourself, sister!"

In addition to all the "I could never date a man shorter than me 'cos I'd look silly standing next to him in heels" or "I just like a tall man who makes me feel protected"

(we could cash in some of my ISA and buy some top-notch insurance approved security systems if that would make you feel protected?!)

On the biological level - I get! As a bloke, I'm drawn to a nice pair of breasts! Doesn't mean I'd automatically reject someone just 'cos of the letters printed on her bra strap, though!

I do have a small handful of really good friends, male & female. But we're rarely in touch these days as they're all busy with their own lives & families and good luck to them.

On the flip side - it only takes about 5 minutes to write all my Christmas cards!

Every cloud has a silver lining! :)

[WireFan]

Bluesheep well it shouldn't, I agree. Why would you interpret what I wrote that way? There are clearly negative attitudes to short men as displayed on this thread so being short could hold men back. Could and should being very different of course! You've completely misunderstood the point I was making but I think you want to.

[YukoandHiro]

PS @TheViewFromDownHere I'm sorry people have been so judgemental throughout your life. As a man, do you find it has affected friendships or just romance?

[YukoandHiro]

@TheViewFromDownHere I've had all that too - plus being physically picked up by men without consent. Which isn't "hilarious", it's basically a form of harassment.

My absolute top hatred is "what's the weather like down there?" People say this without thinking and seem to believe it's utterly hysterical and that I've never heard it before

[Bluesheep8]

He's the same height as Sadiq Khan then. Doesn't seem to have held either of them back much.

Why on earth would it?