Toilets - single sex or gender neutral?

[3beesinmybonnet]

The government is asking for the views of members of the public on provision of toilets, with particular regard to the recent trend away from single sex toilets towards gender neutral i.e. mixed sex. If you're at all concerned about this you can express your concerns via this link:

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/toilet-provision-for-men-and-women-call-for-evidence/toilet-provision-for-men-and-women-call-for-evidence

The closing date is 29th January 2021.

[Ifyourefeelingsinister]

@NoToast

I don't like single room provision. To reach a woman who was unconscious and against the door, I've had to climb into a locked toilet over the partition wall which didn't reach to the ceiling. This obviously isn't possible where there are solid walls.
I like that in single sex, communal toilets other women are around to help out.

Agree with this. Single sex provision for both sexes plus gender neutral, third space - useful for parents of kids of opposite sex and anyone who doesn't feel ok to use toilet of their sex.

[skippy67]

@Cailleach

All single cubicle with integral sink and own entrance door - in other words each toilet is in a room on its own. That ends this absurd debate in one blow and keeps everyone safe.

It's what my work have just done and it's a stroke of genius as no whiny little buggers have any excuse to chelp on about anything any more.

Let's see this done nationwide. It'll cost money but who cares if it keeps pervs out of the women's loos.

My office has this set up. Works really well, and I actually prefer them to the single sex ones we had before. On every floor of the building there are also a lesser number of single sex loos.
However, I do think that there should be a choice for those who want it.

[3beesinmybonnet]

Bumping as the deadline for this is tomorrow.

[Miljea]

I've just responded. Thank you for bringing our attention to this.

[Miljea]

Does anyone have a good template to help people who may struggle a bit to articulate what they want to say?

[GoGina]

Single sex!

Gender neutral will only attract perverts.

[LizzieSiddal]

Single sex. Cleaner, safer and less smelly!

[zeitgeista]

both, because as shown on here, you'll never please everyone.

[Doughnut100]

I don't like the self contained ones. Men still piss everywhere. And there is not the safety of a female space where you can ask other females for help in an enclosed space away from males.

[Changi]

It seems they only want comments on 'technical issues'?

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/toilet-provision-for-men-and-women-call-for-evidence

[formerbabe]

Definitely single sex. I'd imagine plenty of men would prefer single sex too.

[NoToast]

I don't like single room provision. To reach a woman who was unconscious and against the door, I've had to climb into a locked toilet over the partition wall which didn't reach to the ceiling. This obviously isn't possible where there are solid walls.
I like that in single sex, communal toilets other women are around to help out.

[GnomeOrMistAndIceGuy]

How odd. That link strongly implies that only women menstruate, get pregnant or experience menopause. Is that not considered transphobic?
No, just truthful?

[shrill]

Times when periods are an issue mean I know others would agree is when we want privacy and not remarks from people who have no idea about such matters. I'm frustrated about the need to explain why for some this issue is Not to be taken lightly.

[reluctantbrit]

@Cailleach

All single cubicle with integral sink and own entrance door - in other words each toilet is in a room on its own. That ends this absurd debate in one blow and keeps everyone safe.

It's what my work have just done and it's a stroke of genius as no whiny little buggers have any excuse to chelp on about anything any more.

Let's see this done nationwide. It'll cost money but who cares if it keeps pervs out of the women's loos.

Exactly. Also a lot nicer if you have a messy period and need to clean up.

My old work place did it 20 years ago, hardly a new invention.

[CatVsChristmasTree]

It seems they only want comments on 'technical issues'?

[OliverBabish]

Fucking hell. Single fucking sex! Men are gross and this is a hill I will die on.

[IHaveBrilloHair]

Single sex with more privacy please.

[sandandso]

@Cailleach two problems with that I shall chelp about...

1. still potential for predatory men to place hidden cameras
   
2. men are so much messier than women in the loo, it's just a fact, and I'd rather not use a public loo after them - or worse, a long stream of them!
   
   I do also value the ladies' as a female only space and refuge.

[RavingAnnie]

@Cailleach

All single cubicle with integral sink and own entrance door - in other words each toilet is in a room on its own. That ends this absurd debate in one blow and keeps everyone safe.

It's what my work have just done and it's a stroke of genius as no whiny little buggers have any excuse to chelp on about anything any more.

Let's see this done nationwide. It'll cost money but who cares if it keeps pervs out of the women's loos.

That doesn't resolve the issue of cleanliness though does it. For some reason men cannot seem to be actually to piss IN the toilet and (through no fault of their own) their wee absolutely stinks. Every gender neutral toilet I've ever been in has been pretty disgusting or stinky.

[Cailleach]

All single cubicle with integral sink and own entrance door - in other words each toilet is in a room on its own. That ends this absurd debate in one blow and keeps everyone safe.

It's what my work have just done and it's a stroke of genius as no whiny little buggers have any excuse to chelp on about anything any more.

Let's see this done nationwide. It'll cost money but who cares if it keeps pervs out of the women's loos.

[Bearsinmotion]

How odd. That link strongly implies that only women menstruate, get pregnant or experience menopause. Is that not considered transphobic?

[sandandso]

I'm so heartened by the government statement in the link. I thought it would just say "hey, what should we do, what do you all fancy?". But no - they are firmly saying that they want there to be more single-sex provision and they understand this is particularly important to women! HURRAH

[howaboutme]

Single sex due to cleanliness

[HermioneWeasley]

Single sex