Sister in Law breaking Covid rules and spending a week in Wales.

[pinkgiraffe]

My sister-in-law has taken my niece and nephew to stay with her mum for a week over Christmas with her sister. Her mum lives in Wales, a tier 4 area so she shouldn't be staying there and having contact with her mum. She will be back on the 27th December when the children will be staying at my brother's house (their dad). I have so many issues with this. Firstly I feel she shouldn't have taken them as she is putting them at risk. She will also be putting my brother and my parents at risk as the children will be around them when they return. The children will be returning to school when they could be contagious. My sister-in-law is a teacher so she will be putting her class and the staff in her school at increased risk and her sister is a hairdresser who has appointments 2 days after she returns. Should I let the schools and her sisters clients know about this? They are being very selfish putting others lives at risk.

[MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously]

Eventually this will all end. If you report your SIL, she will never forgive you and neither will your niece/nephew if you cause their mum problems at work.
If they are in Wales, literally everything is shut. She's probably in less danger than mooching around the crowded shopping centres in tier 2.
You are right that what she's doing is irresponsible and illegal but sometimes you can do more harm than good by interfering.

[Toocold]

I personally wouldn’t report her but for those saying you shouldn’t travel into different tiers, what if you’re in tier 4 but work in tier 2, I’m somewhere on the edge of the boundary for tier 2 but I’m in tier 4, around the corner two parts of the same town, one half is in one county and the other half in another county, tier 2 at the traffic lights and tier 4 after the traffic lights, the shop for both is in tier 4, next door is tier 2 so it’s not always simple with not crossing tiers.

[user1493494961]

I'm in Wales, in a low area, and I should be travelling to stay with family tomorrow but obviously I'm not going. I would 100% report her.

[SevenTiers]

@MacDuffsMuff

Make sure you let your SIL know that you reported her. It's only fair that she be furious at the correct person & not decide to distrust everyone she knows instead.

What a load of shit. She hasn't the right to be 'furious' with anyone. She's the one happy to put other people at risk, not the OP. So many of you just don't care about anyone else, which is exactly why we're still in this shit situation. But hey, as long as you get to do what you like eh ..?

Well said. I genuinely don’t understand just how selfish some people can be over this. We are all fed up. We all want to be with family. We all want to have holidays. Which we will - eventually.

[MacDuffsMuff]

Make sure you let your SIL know that you reported her. It's only fair that she be furious at the correct person & not decide to distrust everyone she knows instead.

What a load of shit. She hasn't the right to be 'furious' with anyone. She's the one happy to put other people at risk, not the OP. So many of you just don't care about anyone else, which is exactly why we're still in this shit situation. But hey, as long as you get to do what you like eh ..?

[yeOldeTrout]

ooh, goody. Maybe SIL will quit her job. Bonus to have one less teacher, right?

[Wigglegiggle0520]

@yeOldeTrout

Make sure you let your SIL know that you reported her. It's only fair that she be furious at the correct person & not decide to distrust everyone she knows instead.

Let her mistrust everyone she knows. If she wasn’t breaking rules she wouldn’t need to.

The country can’t trust her. Nor can the parents of her pupils.

[yeOldeTrout]

Make sure you let your SIL know that you reported her. It's only fair that she be furious at the correct person & not decide to distrust everyone she knows instead.

[FiveToFour]

You aren't allowed to travel out of Tier 4 areas,are you? So there they will all be ,in Tier 4 Wales....
Best case scenario,everyone is fine.Worst case scenario,as someone said, SIL catches Covid,travels home,and it spreads to her class,her childrens class,her sisters clients,OP's brother,his contacts etc etc
Just stupid.
Presumably as a teacher she can read,and does understand the rules?

[Avondklok]

Jeez why can't people just stay home?

[Emmie12345]

I don’t think she should travel there either . But it’s only really guidance , you have to hope people will do the right thing but people are selfish tbh

I was meant to be going from tier 1 to tier 4 (London ) for Xmas and no way am now even though I legally can due to support bubble (dp)

It just feels like the wrong thing to do and also don’t want to get Covid or bring it back to my area

[DragonMamma]

The 48 in the Heath are full and they are now housing patients on surgical wards. The RGH is full of Covid patients (20 wards by all accounts). I wouldn’t want to fall ill here at the moment

[persistentwoman]

@IdrisElbow

I wish your sister could have stood next to me when my father dropped dead from covid last week and then when I have had to try and comfort my poor mum as she tries to come to terms with the total, utter horror of it. Until we have this illness, we have absolutely no idea how our bodies will react to it. You cannot assume that just because you are a certain age you will be ok, she may not be ok and neither might her parents. It just is not worth the risk.

So very sorry for your loss IdrisElbow . What a terrible shock that must have been.

[housemdwaswrong]

Let's hope she doesn't get ill here...spare beds are increasingly rare.

[Popgoesthebubble]

Can't imagine

[Popgoesthebubble]

Also, a lot of places are saying that those returning from Wales need to self isolate on their return, and to assume they have the virus. If schools do go back, I can be imagine they would be impressed at her absence.

[DragonMamma]

I live in South Wales and I wouldn’t come here if I were her - it’s absolutely rife. Loads of people I know have it - swathes of people 😞

[GabsAlot]

another thread where people are saying its ok to travel between tiers

dont understand the logic

[Illstartexercisingtomorrow]

I’m just bloody fed up and pissed off because so many people don’t want to follow the rules we keep ending up in further and further lockdowns. It’s not because if schools it’s because of people who are selfish. I’m tired of all of it too but I’m not gallavanting around the country.

[RedMarauder]

@mamaoffourdc

Well I would report her!

The English police don't do anything as she isn't a large group.

The Welsh police will only do something if they stop her on her way in or she is out and about.

[Popgoesthebubble]

I'm not sure some people have seen just goes bad it is in Wales at the moment. It's a lot worse than London. Some areas have Covid cases of 1300 p100,000 + (and rising rapidly).

Whether technically legal or not (which I doubt) it's neither in the spirit of a support bubble, or sensible to go.

[Lollyneenah]

Was mad*

[Lollyneenah]

¹it would depend on where in wales to me. South wales I would think she was made but mid and north west wales are essentially tier 2

[GintyMcGinty]

I think you are overreacting - particularly in thinking of contacting school and clients.

It's up to your parents and brother to decide whether they are happy to mix with them or not. As adults they can all decide for themselves what levels of risk they are willing to accept.

[Sapphire387]

I think you should avoid contact with her and protect yourselves, but not report her. That's just spiteful.