Pronunciation differences - scone, castle etc

[BearSoFair]

Are there any more that are common?

Talking to a friend in another country last night and got onto words like 'bath' and 'castle' and how she's never sure whether it should be a long or short A. She wasn't aware of the great scon/scone debate! Are there any other words with well known/debated pronunciation variations? I feel like there must be but none are coming to mind!

[BearSoFair]

Friend grew up (and still lives) in Prague so she doesn't have a natural way of saying things in English, she wasn't sure if one way was seen as more 'correct' than the other. (I'm also not saying one is more right than the other, should probably make that clear!)

Yes to sikth!

[Mellan]

@Iamagree

Scottish "Wh" is pronounced differently from "w" - for example Where and wear are not the same sound. The "wh" is aspirated (?) so with a little puff/blow of air. I only realised this recently when (not "wen" ) someone took the piss...
I don't know if this is only Scotland though.

Also older pronunciation. What was once hwat. It's called the wine/whine merger

[ApocalypseNowt]

Tongue is either tong or tung depending on who you're speaking to in our house!

[ClinkyMonkey]

@Mellan
Than you for posting that, because people saying aksed or axed drives me mad. I always think it sounds lazy or sloppy. But a nugget of information like that takes the edge off my rage

[JaJaDingDong]

@Iamagree

Scottish "Wh" is pronounced differently from "w" - for example Where and wear are not the same sound. The "wh" is aspirated (?) so with a little puff/blow of air. I only realised this recently when (not "wen" ) someone took the piss...
I don't know if this is only Scotland though.

It's not only Scotland.

It's correct to use an aspirate h in where etc, but a lot of people don't.

I'm not sure there is any "correct" in these more relaxed times anyway.

[EarlGreyJenny]

Not pronunciation, but I have recently learned that "outwith" is a word not used outwith Scotland. Mind blown.

[TheNoodlesIncident]

A lot of people mis-spell drawer as draw because of the way they pronounce it. I always say Draw-er (as I'm Scottish) and when I try to make my ds say it properly he says Draw-rer (he's English). It drives me mad!

I also say Sing-er and locally they say Sing-ger like in Finger and Linger. I'm not saying they're wrong, they're obviously sticking to the regular pattern more, it's just odd!

DH says Tong instead of Tung and has to be careful not to say Lurry instead of Lorry as I will mock. All part of life's rich tapestry, isn't it?

[ScaramoucheFandango]

Shrewsbury

[Mellan]

[quote ClinkyMonkey]@Mellan
Than you for posting that, because people saying aksed or axed drives me mad. I always think it sounds lazy or sloppy. But a nugget of information like that takes the edge off my rage[/quote]
It's in the Coverdale Bible too: "And I saye vnto you also: Axe, and it shal be geuen you: Seke, and ye shal fynde: knocke, and it shalbe opened vnto you."

It's called metathesis and it's how come we get pairs like task and tax

[CatRamsey]

Not pronunciation, but I have recently learned that "outwith" is a word not used outwith Scotland. Mind blown.

This came up at work as we liase with a team in Edinburgh and they set up a spreadsheet with a page for issues 'outwith' the scope of everything else.

We had no idea what they were on about and they couldn't believe we had no idea what they were on about!

[ChessieFL]

Issue - can be iss-yew or ishoo. Same for tissue.

[ChessieFL]

Schedule - can be skedule or shedule.

[SleepingStandingUp]

@JaJaDingDong

Poor.

In Wales it's pooer. In England it seems to be pore.

And the Black Country

[SleepingStandingUp]

Sez instead of says
Scown not scon is correct 🤣🤣🤣
Grarse instead of grass
Pooley for poorly is Black Country
Tuff instead of tooth
Os instead of horse


There's a ton of colloquialisms. Donny for hand for example.

[Peregrina]

It was danny for hand for my DM from Sheffield. Poddies for feet and woolly coat, for a cardigan.

[ellieboulou33]

@TheSeedsOfADream I didn't say that though did I, I said that particular word with the way it's said irritates me.

[TrickyD]

Interesting explanation of ‘axed’ from Mellan, but I still find it unpleasant. I am not as tolerant as ClinkyMonkey.

I hate ‘hospiccle’, ‘liccle’ and similar travesties.

[TheFormerPorpentinaScamander]

@EarlGreyJenny

Not pronunciation, but I have recently learned that "outwith" is a word not used outwith Scotland. Mind blown.

My friend from Lancashire says Outwith. She's the only person I've ever heard say it though.

Rucksack - I say rucksack. A friend says rooksack.

[jackfruitz]

@JaJaDingDong

Also tooth.

In Wales it's tuth. In England it's toooth.

Or the north east. My Geordie partner says “poo-er” and more as “moo-er”.

[jackfruitz]

Sorry misquoted! Should have been about the poor or poo-er!

[TheSeedsOfADream]

[quote ellieboulou33]@TheSeedsOfADream I didn't say that though did I, I said that particular word with the way it's said irritates me. [/quote]
Well, as more than half of the UK population say it like that, I extrapolated your inference.

[SBTLove]

Just to annoy everyone, Scone Palace is pronounced Scooon Palace but I’d say scone 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[MostDisputesDieAndNoOneShoots]

Had a northern boyfriend when I was younger (I’m from London). We would virtually come to blows about raspberry. I say it “rahs-bre” and he said it “raz-bree”. Also the al-mond/ahr-mond thing (my pronunciation being the latter.

I come from near Dagenham in East London and there’s a debate as to how that’s pronounced. If you’re from there or nearby it’s “Dag-num”, if you’re not it’s “Dag-en-um”. Caused a lot of argument when the film Made in Dagenham was released.

[SleepingStandingUp]

@ScaramoucheFandango

Shrewsbury

God yes. DH and I are from the same city in the West Mids and both say it differently. But then he says scone wrong too.

I like to eat scowns in Shrewsbury
He eats scons in shrowsbury

[SleepingStandingUp]

Noughat. Learnt that on here, that some say nugget (me) and others say new-gah (posh people)