I stopped stripping due to the pandemic but have done two nights since, recently. I missed it.
In light of recent threads wondered if anyone had any questions.
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AMA
Ex stripper/webcam worker, also been a honey trap
Stripperyone · 16/02/2022 19:55
Gingerkittykat · 11/09/2022 04:13
What was it like being a honey trap?
Did the men you met pass the test?
TheRealKatnissEverdeen · 13/01/2023 16:44
And there was me asking for you to do an AMA!
Permission to ask questions relating to the cocaine thread?
Stripperyone · 13/01/2023 16:41
@morninginging yes, surprisingly I actually do. I've met some really nice men, three of whom I class as dear friends ,who have met my family etc.
I cannot really explain it. One of them credits me with stopping him from taking his own life and getting him over depression. He'd often ask me to stay dressed and we'd just talk. I've given him lifts home, he rings me regularly just to have a chat.
He adores his wife and daughters. I realise that to many, he cannot possibly, as he visited strip clubs, but he really does seem to.
He was a regular of mine. He's also the first person I confided in about something I was going through. We meet for dinner/drinks regularly. Not much about me he doesn't know. 'Normal', relatively wealthy professional guy.
I think some men perhaps do not see the strippers as objects and do not consider that the whole industry is a product of objectification. They simply go in for a bit of a 'different' night out. Some others are lonely and want female company and think strippers will talk to them as they 'have to' but darent ever approach a woman IRL. I've had a lot of clients like that as I love a good conversation/debate!
As to whether it matters, I don't know. I guess it depends on a myriad of factors including the general state of the marriage/relationship. But as to whether I think all men who frequent strip clubs are massive misogynists, based on my own experience, no I really do not believe they are and I know a good handful who (beyond general indoctrination that I think all men can be guilty of) are definitely not.
@custardbear pimps-no. I've never been targetted nor known any stripper who's been targetted by a 'bona fide' pimp, however there is a lot of 'pimpish' behaviour with boyfriends so I observed. Not working, not being happy if she doesn't make much money one night, a lot of general bad behaviour. I've had a lot of colleagues come and confide in me about things like that.
Percentage is difficult. Choice or lack of choice, you could say some of the single mothers who work as strippers when their ex has their children have a choice, get a weekend job at a supermarket etc or strip-one is hard work, tiring, lower paid, boring? In comparison for earning money while on something of a night out, being admired, free drinks, a lot MORE money. But that lack of choices is paramount, why were her ambitions stifled, what kind of background does she come from? What made it her best option? Poverty/misogyny ?
I am not judging-if a woman decided that she wanted to be a SAHM and then was attracted to stripping on a Saturday night to satisfy her own needs, for any reason, that's a bit different? And I did meet women like that.
It is also sort of addictive, if you like it. You miss the atmosphere, the other women, the talking to lots of different people, being on stage. It fulfils something in me definitely. I think, had I known myself better younger, I may have gone into the performing arts and stripping kind of satisfies that for me.
Trennton · 13/01/2023 17:37
How common is it for a stripper to be propositioned by a man while working and to agree to sex for money? Either at the club or on a private basis?
Stripperyone · 13/01/2023 18:30
@nevermindtherind sorry for not coming back for so long! You're welcome I know it isn't me who's meant to be asking but what would you be jealous, of?
Some of them are definitely sleazy, don't get me wrong. But I don't think It's a direct correlation. Strippers are by nature (at least those who stay in the job) bubbly,interesting and a lot of fun and customers know they'll have a good time, I think that's a lot to do with it much of the time.
Stripperyone · 18/01/2023 21:19
I understand that. I guess in this customer's case, he was in a bad place (not to do with his marriage) when he first began going in. Often people go in strip clubs (or at least did in those times) because they'd be the only place open and/or that wasn't packed! Similar reasons to why he did.
Sometimes this sort of thing happens and strippers then hound them for a dance. I am being honest when I say I have never been the sort of stripper to do that. I don't feel right trying to persuade someone who I know really doesn't want to, & it doesn't feel comfortable. I may ask, but if It's a no I accept it. I then might finish my drink with them if not much else is going on, and sometimes they get to know me a bit and change their mind. If other customers are available I'll just move on.
An anomalous story about the customer (X) I mention is, he told a friend of his he was going to the club often and told him about me and how much he felt better after spending time with me. Said friend proceeded to come in one night, pick me as the one from friend/X's description and spent some time just talking to me. He then bought a VIP dance and told me he knew X. After the dance he told me he'd come in to warn me off, for taking advantage of X's vulnerability and the bad place he was in, he'd decided I was a money-grabbing hussy who just wanted his money but having spoken to me, he understood and had decided I was good for X. He became a regular of mine too.
I know what you mean. Sometimes, I think they don't even think about the concept. Especially when alcohol is involved-not an excuse of course. Also unfortunately some men (as I mentioned above with internalised misogyny) they just don't think about it. Not an excuse, they should! Same sort of thing as (for example) a male friend recently asked why I didn't go to my local pub on NYE and I said nobody was available to walk me there-he actually admitted that he'd never thought about that as he never (as a man) had had that problem.
I agree, I kind of wish they didn't exist in the first place because of that regression/sexism. It makes me feel a bit hypocritical as they helped me explore a side of me that I loved, because they do exist.
Yes, it seems you have an 'image' of what kind of man goes in strip clubs (similarly to what you said, this definitely isn't a criticism either!) and your DH just isn't fitting with that image. I am trying to think about if I have anything similar with my partner and I do, things she's done in her past that I just cannot envision her doing! It makes sense.
Has your DH said anything about the 'whys' as to why he used to do it?
That might help me understand.
One thing I will say though is I've worked in a LOT of clubs, from the down and out privately owned dingy back street ones to the famous, plush, 'top-end' ones and a lot of women who work in them and are successful are not that young, nor are a lot of them stereotypically 'hot bodied'!
Did it perhaps fulfil his wanting to have female attention without much effort, and now he has you that just isn't something he wants any longer?
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FeelinSpendy · 19/01/2023 09:30
Your answers are really interesting and give a different perspective.
I’ve heard a number of times in the past that some men pay for dances (and more) in order to have someone to talk to but I was a bit sceptical as to whether that was true.
After reading your replies, I now wonder whether that type of man goes to strip clubs as they need someone to talk to and they would prefer to go to a strip club rather than a therapist. They may not even think about it in that way but, essentially, if they are paying to talk to someone and feel it’s confidential then it’s performing a similar function to therapy. For many men who would never admit to needing therapy or feel it’s ‘unmanly’ to talk about their feelings with friends, family or professionals, it is probably very socially acceptable to go to a strip club.
Unfortunately though, I suspect a large majority of customers are still misogynistic arseholes who just see women as property and strip clubs do help to reinforce that belief. The women working there may feel empowered as they call the shots and are being paid a lot more than they could earn elsewhere, but the men paying them are not applying any critical thinking and think that if they are paying then they have the power. Ultimately, that affects how they treat and think about women in their day to day lives and impacts on all of us.
I don’t judge women who choose to strip as they may as well take advantage of the situation, but I am sad and disappointed that we are still in a society which makes this an attractive career option for women and that so many men who would describe themselves as believing in equality think it’s ok to go to strip clubs and objectify women.
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