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Strawberryshortcake40 Sun 22-Jan-17 09:20:36

At my wits end with cat. Had a multitude of problems with him before, complaints from neighbours etc and was on the verge of rehoming him last summer when he was hit by a car and had to spend a month in a cage. This changed his personality even more and he has never seemed "right" since. He would destroy the cage every night, tore up beds, pooed everywhere (inc food bowl!), howl incessantly. I tried very hard to help him through this but he has seemed to dislike me since.

He will still cry loudly all day and night (so the neighbours are still not happy). He randomly bites people and my DC, refuses to be cuddled or stroked anymore (used to be affectionate). Knocks over bins, steals food. In the last month he has weed (full on bladder void) on my carpets, curtains, several times on piles of ironing. Once on a pile of ironing halfway up the tiny stairs. Dogs bed. Now his latest is the kitchen work tops and table and anything he finds on there. This morning my laptop lead. Yesterday a book of the DC. Even if I remove everything there is a lake of urine dripping off the worktop in the morning. He has a cat flap. Has a tray. Vet says there appears to be nothing wrong with him.

I obviously can't rehome a cat that does this so what on earth do I do with him? I love animals and have always had cats, some with quirks, but he truly acts like he despises us. I can't let him anywhere but the kitchen where he terrorises the dog. I don't know what the solution is.

Fully expecting to be flamed for this but I would really welcome some help.

msrisotto Sun 22-Jan-17 09:28:41

Cripes you don't have to kill him. He sounds traumatised and deeply unhappy. Have you done anything to prevent him weeing on stuff? Youtube Jackson Galaxy or buy a book by Vicky Halls, both are excellent guides into cat behaviour.

In the end though, my sister had a cat who urinated everywhere except the litter tray and after trying everything she gave him to a local shelter. Oddly enough she then moved out of her house and rented it to a small family who eventually said that a cat seemed to have adopted them and was a welcome addition to the home and could they keep it? On a visit to the property, it was her old cat! In short - cats who wee in your home won't necessarily wee in another place.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen Sun 22-Jan-17 09:31:46

I second Jaxon Galaxy.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen Sun 22-Jan-17 09:32:38

Have you got Feliway?

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen Sun 22-Jan-17 09:32:58

Do you have 2 litter trays?

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen Sun 22-Jan-17 09:33:48

You mention a cage on your OP,do you keep him in a cage?

Strawberryshortcake40 Sun 22-Jan-17 09:35:57

No the cage was while his pelvis healed. For a month last summer.

He's in the kitchen. Why would he need two trays in a tiny kitchen? He has a cat flap too.

Yes to feliway. He likes to spray up it though so not sure it's having the right effect.

I loved him very very much up until last year, still try to and desperately want him to stay with us. He's only 7.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams Sun 22-Jan-17 09:37:31

I would buy him a cat kennel and make him an outdoor cat. You can buy a heater etc and make it comfy. There is no way I would allow ongoing access to the house in these circs.
Cat sanctuary or PTS are the other obvious options. A sanctuary may be able to give useful advice on disturbed cat behaviour. I suspect they would rehome as an outdoor cat in these circs anyway.

Strawberryshortcake40 Sun 22-Jan-17 09:40:55

He can't stay outdoors. He yowls so loudly constantly, that's why the neighbours complain.

I am trying very hard to find a solution but continually scrubbing cat pee is not pleasant.

RougeSeas Sun 22-Jan-17 09:41:58

Could he have a tumour of some sort?

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen Sun 22-Jan-17 09:45:47

Apparently you are meant to have one litter box for each cat and one spare.

Our cat used to yowl but he's on a supplement now with added green tea which apparentlyakes cats very chilled,it's worked anyway along with a change of food to a higher meat content. There is a something beginning with Zy... I think which is meant to calm cats down. Plus there's cat nip too.

Mermaidinthesea Sun 22-Jan-17 09:49:00

He sounds like a real problem. I wonder if he is in pain or has sustained some kind of head injury in the crash or has neuropathic damage.
I'd make my first port of call an experienced vet.
I have a similar cat who poos and pees everywhere if she is allowed in the carpeted part of the house. The last straw was when she had copious diarrhoea in my shoe box - all of my shoes covered in it!!!
She has always been very difficult and was abused by her previous human.
I now keep her in the kitchen diner and she can't get into the rest of the house from there. There is a hard floor in there too. I read somewhere that cats like this need a secure place to call there own so she has a small second hand sofa with cosy fleece and blankets on it, a hooded litter tray which I keep clean 24/7 and a small box with a blanket which she can retreat to if she feels insecure. There is also a cat flap to the outside and she is not allowed in the rest of the house.
I spend time with her in the evenings, give her treats and we play with her toys for an hour.
She is settled now and so much better. I have one of those cat plug ins too which seems to work. It's been very slow hard work but she has stopped pooing everywhere now.

Mermaidinthesea Sun 22-Jan-17 09:50:55

PS cat soiling is horrendous. I was in despair too. It's taken 6 months to stop her.

Strawberryshortcake40 Sun 22-Jan-17 09:52:45

He has a cat bed in the kitchen, the dogs bed (that he makes her get out of) and a bed in the boiler cupboard up high. Plenty of nice food, treats, toys.

Strawberryshortcake40 Sun 22-Jan-17 09:53:42

The floor I could cope with. The ironing was annoying. Work tops and belongings is really awful.

Girliefriendlikesflowers Sun 22-Jan-17 09:53:58

I wouldn't be able to keep a cat that did that, he sounds utterly miserable.

I agree that he sounds like he has some neurological problem (?brain injury/ tumor) and personally I would PTS sad I love cats and have 2 myself but I couldn't cope with a howling, incontinent and miserable cat, especially given you know he wasn't like this before.

Strawberryshortcake40 Sun 22-Jan-17 09:55:55

He was always noisy but ultra loving, if you hugged him he would be fine. Now he struggles to be put down and carries on. He randomly jumps on DDs bed if she's trying to sleep and bites her. He's bitten guests before! It's a tiny house and tiny kitchen and he is driving us crazy!!

Gooseygoosey12345 Sun 22-Jan-17 10:04:01

There's honestly no way I'd keep any animal that was biting my children. If it was a dog no one would question it. I'd got for cat sanctuary if I were you. It's not fair on your family and they come first. I'm an animal lover but I love my family more

Allergictoironing Sun 22-Jan-17 10:09:50

DameDiazepam the stuff you're thinking of is Zylkene. I tried it on mine when the firework season started and it did seem to have a good effect. Comes as powder in little capsules which you can open up & scatter over their food - mine seemed to really like the taste and sulked a bit when I stopped using it grin.

I agree that with that much change in personality it's very likely that there's a problem somewhere. I would probably get a second vets opinion, a big change in personality immediately after a major accident would certainly make me suspicious they may be related.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen Sun 22-Jan-17 10:37:06

I have watched more Jaxon Galaxy episodes than I care to admit to but apart from being in pain the number one reason for biting etc seems to be boredom and they do it for attention. Any chance it could be this? Our cat really lets us know if we don't properly play with him- and just putting toys out doesn't count- needs to be with feathers on fishing rod type toys that encourage pouncing and laser toys.

Has the cat got a high up space to get away from the dog? Ours was much happier when we bought a high cat tree. I know you say he gets the dog out of his bed but if he had his own space that no one else could get to it might help.

I would definitely get him checked out again by a different vet ,a fresh pair of eyes might be what is needed.

Strawberryshortcake40 Sun 22-Jan-17 10:54:40

Yes he has his own space up high (boiler cupboard). No room for a cat tree in the kitchen and he is banned from the lounge after I've had to scrub my carpet and curtains. He peed on the curtains whilst sitting watching me so it's not like he's hiding it!

He won't play with toys, just ignores them. Frequently flips his food out of the bowl if it isn't to his liking and ignores it.

CatBallou2 Sun 22-Jan-17 11:09:46

Poor puss & poor you.

Would you consider taking him to a veterinary hospital, where more specialist types work, someone like Dr Noel Fitzpatrick or similar?

Also, a cat communicator? Perhaps someone can recommend one.

My 19 year old cat is slightly "off kilter" and has moments where his toilet habits are questionable. He's also a howler in & out of the house & can be quite aggressive, impatient and demanding at times. He has hyperthyroidism and is on medication for that and has calmed down somewhat. He and my other 6 year old cat both have painkiller Loxicom, everyday. My vet said that you should just assume that cats who live in cold climate countries, over the age of 3 years, (I think, but could be 5 years), have painful joints & should take pain relief everyday. I have to say that since my 6 year has pain relief everyday, (I used to give it to her every other day), she's like a new cat, full of energy & so happy. She's a very nervous cat & that won't change, but she's so bright & cheerful now.

I think you should get a 2nd opinion from a specialist vet & try to get to the bottom of it that way. He's obviously trying to tell you something.

Vinorosso74 Sun 22-Jan-17 11:27:16

He doesn't sound a happy chappy. No direct advice but defintely agree with a vet checking him out, seems harsh to PTS. Do any vets at your practise have any additional interest/qualification in neurology??
We went to an excellent referral practise with our cat (unrelated to your cat's condition mind) who have specialists across all areas. Not sure where you are but it's in the south east. Obviously this would be expensive so am hoping you have insurance.

yeOldeTrout Sun 22-Jan-17 11:31:30

OP said the vet has checked him out "nothing wrong"

I wonder if you could try love bombing him.
I know you said house is tiny, but you managed a cage before. Could you cage him overnight to make him more tolerable to live with? & Lovebomb in the rest of the time. It sounds like with the pelvic break he's become confused about where is safe to wee.

I wouldn't blame you for PTS, eventually, if he won't improve. But you need to tell yourself you tried very hard to make him back into a happy cat.

Toddlerteaplease Sun 22-Jan-17 11:38:14

I'm also wondering if he had a head injury, and it was missed due to his fractured pelvis. It could also be that he has sustained nerve damage to his spine and this has affected his bladder. Could he still have on going pain? I think a specialist vet needs to see him. Pet remedy is also far better than feliway.

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