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FatPat Fri 17-Jun-11 22:05:35

I am really concerned about a rotty who lives behind us (terraced house with small yard)
My dh has just walked past their yard and the poor demented dog who we have never seen being walked has knocked a hole in the fencing. Dh said the dog is literally squashed into a corner because the yard is absolutely overflowing with dog shit.
Who the hell do I go to, I cannot sit here and let this poor defenesless animal be abused like this, it is so wrong and is horribly upseting for us so how the hell the dog is coping is heartbreaking.
Would the RSPCA actually do anything? Who would if they won't get involved
tia

iwantadogbutarabbitwoulddo Fri 17-Jun-11 22:15:48

Yes phone the rspca as soon as you can. That sounds absolutely incredibly awful. You can phone now: 24-hour cruelty line on 0300 1234 999

2T2T Fri 17-Jun-11 22:20:35

i hope you got through FatPat, How fucking despicable. Feel horrified. Call now.

Empusa Fri 17-Jun-11 22:21:45

RSPCA definitely. Hope they can help!

Joolyjoolyjoo Fri 17-Jun-11 22:30:32

Definitely phone RSPCA- they should send someone round. It really sounds horrible for the poor dog sad I have heard that the RSPCA aren't always terribly effective, but here in Scotland I know the SSPCA do take this kind of thing seriously- I have had a couple of dogs brought to me for assessment by them in the last few weeks (vet) and it would appear these dogs were reported by concerned neighbours. Hope something gets done.

TheDogsAintTheProblem Fri 17-Jun-11 22:34:00

The RSPCA is your first port of call though IMHO they're crap, as has been proven with other, well publicised, neglect cases. I'd also suggest that you call your local council and ask of they have a dedicated Dog Warden. Some no longer have one thanks to cutbacks. By law each council must have a "stray dog catcher" but for many these days that's all they have, which is someone who combines stray dog catching with other duties such as pest controller. In such cases animal welfare is no longer covered.

If your council has a DW they should be willing and able to go and visit/investigate, which will give your concerns more welly as they have links with the RSPCA and will be taken more seriously (yes, I know, it's a bloody appalling situation with our councils). My advice is that you fight and take it to the top - if there is a DW but he isn't pro-active take the issue to the Director of the council's Environmental Health department, if the RSPCA helpline is useless it won't be a first but come back here because I have the email of one of their lawyers who IME is good at passing concerns to the right people and getting something done.

Also complain to Environmental Health on hygeine reasons. You may be able to get something done there, in a roundabout way. If the owner is a council tenant complain to their housing authority. This is a legal "nuisance" and theoretically action can be taken on that score - I appreciate that this isn't your main concern and your worries are for the dog but if complaining about the hygeine risk does the trick it's worth approaching from that angle.

The problem is that although laws are being broken here they are those which are only usually taken up by the RSPCA as, although that organisation has no more power in law than you or I (despite their uniforms and titles of Inspector and Superintendent) they have the funds to take out a civil case against the owner where you and I don't. Unfortunately, as I said, they are notoriously slow and reluctant in some cases to act at all. I know of one well publicised case of 2 GSD left chained without shelter in the snowy Northern winter who they said were perfectly ok. The elder of these dogs died of illness a few weeks after being rescued not by the RSPCA but by struggling to make ends meet German Shepherd Rescue.

On that note, if all else fails, talk to them albeit that this is a Rott and not a GSD. The RSPCA hate GSD Rescue UK and the feeling's mutual but Jayne, the owner, will take up your case and fight with you, I'm sure. Jayne Shenstone is on 01568 797957 - give me a yell if that doesn't help as I have her personal email somewhere as well.

I hope it doesn't come to that though and that you get results from the RSPCA and your council. Poor dog. sad

BooyHoo Fri 17-Jun-11 22:36:14

poor dog. hope the situation is fixed soon.

mellowbird Fri 17-Jun-11 22:39:38

why oh why do people do this to these poor defensless animals?,it breaks my heart,they trust us and depend on us,what on earth must be going through this poor soul's mind sad

2T2T Sat 18-Jun-11 08:46:55

i hope tho OP comes back to tell us what's happening. Poor, poor mutt sad

FatPat Sat 18-Jun-11 11:52:05

Sorry for the delay in coming back.
I have contacted the RSPCA but in all honesty don't hold out much hope in them doing anything but we will see.
I have just walked past myself and it is really bad, they appear to have a large washing up bowl in the dogs' kennel (that's another thing the poor bastard has to sleep outside sad )
I won't stop on this though, I have a dog myself and am discusted someone could treat an animal like this.
Thank you to everyone for the advise, the dogsainttheproblem I will see what the RSPCA say, I asked to be informed of the outcome but in all likelyhood I will hear the thug outside ranting. If the rspca do nothing I will carry on down the other path. Thanks

TheDogsAintTheProblem Sat 18-Jun-11 11:58:16

The other way around it is to find some out of towners who are willing to do the right thing and accidentally let him out of his garden and into a kind-hearted, Rott loving person's car who just happens to be able to take in and care for a Rottie in need...

<<whistles>>

mellowbird Sat 18-Jun-11 12:38:56

must say the same thought did cross my mind <twindles thumbs>

mellowbird Sat 18-Jun-11 12:41:50

<twindles thumbs>??

so upset about this poor pooch i can't type properly.

why is it that we can't be confident in the RSPCA taking cases like this seriously? it's so frustrating sad

Pictish Sat 18-Jun-11 12:44:41

poor dog sad

jade80 Sat 18-Jun-11 12:45:54

Not the RSPCA... find another charity, please. Good luck sorting it out, the poor dog sad

FatPat Sat 18-Jun-11 12:50:04

I'd have the poor thing here, he could come for lovely walks with me and the dog.
I am so sad for him, if I could sneak him out of there I would sad

mellowbird Sat 18-Jun-11 12:54:42

There was a lab living in my old house before i lived there,the poor dog was left outside alone all the time in all weathers sad,a man who lived down the road was so concerened about him that one day he knocked and said he wanted to have the dog and the owner agreed!! He lives the life of Riley now,such a happy ending,i think the owner didn't want the dog but couldn't be bothered/didn't know how to re-home him.

dinamum Sat 18-Jun-11 15:13:53

What are you suggesting stealing the dog from the garden - I have heard it all now

BeerTricksPotter Sat 18-Jun-11 15:21:08

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DooinMeCleanin Sat 18-Jun-11 15:23:01

dinamum it's not just a bit of property is it? It's a living, feeling creature, who is being let down nadly by those who are supposed to provide the best care possible for it.

dinamum Sat 18-Jun-11 15:25:26

My Oh is a lawyer and there are ways and means of doing this legally and in the dogs best interests - not by going in without all the facts and stealing it - this is just madness you are all crazy if you cannot see that it is not the right way to go

TheDogsAintTheProblem Sat 18-Jun-11 15:52:05

Oh FGS Dinamum, here are a few facts:

Fact - the dog is, assuming that the OP is not lying to us, being neglected.

Fact - it is beyond the reach of most individuals to take a case out upon the owner of this abused dog.

Fact - the RSPCA can take out a civil case against the owner. This is a slow process and the dog will continue to suffer (or worse) meantime.

Fact - the RSPCA are notoriously tardy/negligent in taking any action in cases like this unless there's a film crew behind them. This is why they are hugely disliked by the majority of independent rescues.

Fact - A lawyer, unless he is also a rescuer, has little or no first-hand experience of this kind of situation idea of how detrimental to the dog it will be to piss around waiting and hoping for the RSPCA to act.

Fact - I do.

TheDogsAintTheProblem Sat 18-Jun-11 15:57:37

Fact - The RSPCA kill almost as many dogs as they rehome.

Fact - the RSPCA have a proven reputation for being quicker to kill Bull breeds, large breeds like Rotts and Sheps and "problem" dogs than any other.

Fact - the RSPCA have an equally proven reputation for keeping dogs like this until a court case is over and then killing them.

Fact - if that Rott has the slightest sign of any issues, particularly fear aggression, which would be unsurprising under the circumstances, the RSPCA will kill him. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT WHATSOEVER.

Fact - the RSPCA are not adverse to killing dogs in these circumstances with captive bolt guns, which requires "pithing" or the insertion of a metal rod into the hole made by the bolt gun to finish the job off.

mellowbird Sat 18-Jun-11 16:02:29

OMG This is awful sad

The poor dog is doomed,i'm sorry but if i lived nearby i'd have to intervene,i'd feel the same as the op and her husband.

dinamum Sat 18-Jun-11 16:03:44

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