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Bulldogjan74 Fri 14-Dec-12 01:55:13

Hi there, I'm new to the form so hopefully Im in the right place!

I just found something very disturbing in my son's bedroom - a number of books actually. I confronted him about it, asking him where and how he got them, and he said he got them from his teacher as recommendation.

Now. My son is a smart kid so is in a top-level English class at school (and wants to become a doctor!) so gets recommendations all the time, but I thought this time it goes a bit far. angry

I found these books;

Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov - what appears to be a book about a paedophile that targets a twelve year old girl.

Death in Venice by Thomas Mann - a book about a predator that goes after and stalks a fourteen year old boy in Venice

Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs - a very bad book filled with heavy drug use, prostitution, swearing (including the c-word) and what appears to be hardcore pornography. I won't go into anymore details - its too repulsive to even talk about.

He got the later book at a library, not from the school, but I still think it's worrying!

I understand also that some of these are 'classics'! What are these so-called intellectuals and the government thinking letting these books be available to the public and my son! angry I don't know what to do. As I said, these are only a couple of recommendations, but this is bad right?

teapot5 Mon 17-Dec-12 12:35:37

I read and watched a film for the first two (Lolita and Death in Venice) when I was 12, and turned out ok (I think).

Fragglewump Thu 20-Dec-12 13:22:38

Omg that has made me laugh out loud!!!! I thought you have found an ice pipe and a blood stained knife or worse!!! It made me remember reading 'riders' and other crap racy novels in the loos at school. I think his tastes are very highbrow and I congratulate him!

Chubfuddler Thu 20-Dec-12 13:34:02

Lolita is a beautiful and disturbing book and I am very impressed at a 15 year old reading it for pleasure. As you are obviously familiar with the book op perhaps you should discuss it with your son, and see what he thinks of the idea that HH's corruption of Dolores is a metaphor for the corruption of the new world by the old; and whether he is taken in by HH's use of rich language to dress up his depraved behaviour? It's very complex and challenging stuff.

MrsKwaziipanFruits Thu 20-Dec-12 13:34:15

grin I love these kind of threads. I have an image of a 'very bad book' going around smoking ciggies, drinking blue WKD and shock bunking off.

The world's going to hell in a handcart don'tcha know!

AgentProvocateur Thu 20-Dec-12 13:48:14

Quick, burn those filthy books! Protest outside libraries and Waterstones! A 15-year old boy, almost able to get married and fight for his country, shouldn't be reading classics like these - have you checked inside the covers to make sure there's not a "Hot'n'Horny" in there?

Chubfuddler Thu 20-Dec-12 13:59:19

They're not the sort of books you'd want your wife or servants to read, to be sure.

ScampiFriesRuleOK Thu 20-Dec-12 13:59:36

There's nothing at all wrong with the literature you've listed, but your post itself leaves a bit to be desired in the readability department to be fair. This is obviously a wind-up, so I don't know why I'm bothering to type this, but here goes anyway...

Lolita is on the syllabus for AS Literature this year. That means that whole classes full of 16 year olds are reading this outrageous obscenity and may, as a result, end up becoming <whispers> "intellectuals" shock.

Get over yourself OP, or, failing that, go and have a long lie down in a darkened room with the Daily Mail (seemingly your "literature" of choice).

ScampiFriesRuleOK Thu 20-Dec-12 14:01:15

Chubfuddler - best comment I've read on here in a long time!

TreeDecoratingAndPresents Thu 20-Dec-12 14:15:41

gosh, I thought from the thread title that you'd found a collection of mutilated animal carcasses or something. I think you must be very lucky, for your biggest concern to be how to limit your son's education.

LynetteScavo Thu 20-Dec-12 14:20:26

Oh, FFS, I thought he had a a semi-automatic rifle or something.

Classic books? Pah!

toriaenator Fri 21-Dec-12 08:48:37

I am sorry, but this is rediculous. Hes not 4, hes 15! Heck, I was expecting to see that you had found pornography, not literary classics. Maybe he's curious because of the slightly dark or sexual topics but they are still classics and you should be glad hes taking an interest to reading at all.

I would say ease up; hes going to be exposed (if he isnt already) to much worse then a couple of books.

thewhistler Fri 21-Dec-12 14:20:26

Get over yourself. He's a boy he's 15 these things are interesting and topical.

notactuallyme Fri 21-Dec-12 14:24:46

I read Lolita at 15 - I loved it: was really challenging in a good way. Maybe the op is concerned at a theme developing - young victims - and this reflects pre-existing concerns about her son? So, if there is a range of books, she'd be fine, but if they all concentrate on young people meeting weird/sad endings not so good?

thewhistler Fri 21-Dec-12 15:17:17

"My " previous response was from my 15 yo Ds. He nearly added that I would have been thrilled had he been reading them. Sorry about the tone , but I agree with the message.

I read Tess at 11. That is about rape. Jane Eyre at 10. Exploitation. The bible, all that stuff about killing and cheating. Wuthering Heights, mental and physical cruelty. Shakespeare, much ado. Bits of dombey and son and Nicholas Nickleby.

On this basis most literature is banned.

eatyourveg Fri 21-Dec-12 19:52:31

We have 2 copies of Lolita here and Naked Lunch by William Burroughs is wrapped up under the tree with ds's name on. Pretty sure Death in Venice is on the school reading list.

They are all considered great works of literature - I find it quite extraordinary that you think a government should ban the public from reading them.

moonmoth88 Sat 22-Dec-12 23:47:58

re. Lolita & Death in Venice..are really well written books that deal with difficult subjects in context and for a smart kid give a safe space and insight into the darker realms of the adult world that impact on young people. Provoking thought and moral discussion. I think we as adults relate to the adults and feel really angry at their at their actions but I expect the teens identify with the young people in these novels and how some adults are not to be trusted and gives insight into their actions. The adult world is facinating & repulsive and may help them realise what power their youthfulness has.
Stuff/Flith kids exposed to on line far more worring.

omegasail Fri 10-May-13 17:48:25

When I was 15 i readed Fanny Hill Memories and The Diaries of Kristin or Sleeping Beauty witch is about BDSM with young teens. If you want him to read other books buy him Hustler or Playboy magazine...

jellybeans Sun 12-May-13 16:12:11

Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov was featured in my Childhood studies course..

Ghostsgowoooh Sun 12-May-13 22:45:34

I remember reading Jean M Auels 'The clan of the Cave Bear' at 13 which has some scenes in which an 11 year old girl is raped several times by a big hairy Neanderthal. I was a bit shock at that. It was in the school library too.

Her other books in the series are full of bonking stone age peeps. I remember there was a waiting list for the book can't think why

isitsnowingyet Tue 14-May-13 12:02:36

Get a grip OP

Whitewineformeplease Tue 14-May-13 12:23:15

Does anyone remember 'Forever' by Judy Blume? That was passed around my class when I was about 12, I think. With a little post-it attached with the page numbers of the dirty bits!

fuzzpig Tue 14-May-13 12:27:43

Zombie thread.

Wonder if OP's DS has recovered from his terrifying reading material yet.

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