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<yawn> anyone else got a developmentaly leaping, forgotten how to sleeping, growth spurting baby?

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Indith Mon 10-Sep-12 21:23:54

Want to come be sleep deprived with me?

Ds2 is 6 months old. By this age ds1 was sleeping 13 hours a night. I feel all misty eyed at the memory.

He started self settling at 4 months but then the 4 month regression hit and we've not seen that again but he as fairly settled, feeding 3 hourly and going right back to sleep.

Currently he is trying desperately to crawl. He fights sleep like crazy, hardly naps in the day even on the school run or in the car. If at home and I put him down he is awake and screaming within 5 minutes while trying to do press ups and crawl around the bed. When he finally gives up in the evening and either feeds to sleep or lets dh walk him around the house til he drops off he wakes several times during the evening screaming and tossing around and will not let dh settle him any more. He wakes constantly at night, I'm talking every half hour or so and for the first half of the night latches on and feeds back to sleep but then in the middle part is so bloody full of milk he won't latch on and just head buts me and hits me before he settles in to feeding again towards 4am.

This had bloody well better be a developmental leap that passes soon. So, so tired.

He woke this evening and screamed and screamed and screamed. He even screamed at me when I tried to latch him on. Poor baby really doesn't seem to be able to stay asleep any more even when he is desperate to sad

GailTheGoldfish Tue 30-Oct-12 08:33:43

Four wake ups last night and the night before but I have accepted it and am just riding it out! DM is here today and downstairs with her now so I am grabbing the chance for some sleep. This too shall pass.....!

Cydonia Mon 29-Oct-12 09:42:19

Gail - my DS started waking every 1-2 hours around the same time. I was gutted to discover the whole sleep regression thing as I had my hopes pinned on him magically sleeping through at 12 weeks!
He's 22 weeks now and generally just up twice a night for a feed then back to sleep. Which isn't ideal but is progress! He's also settled down a lot in general but is teething too so I don't expect him to sleep through just yet.
I don't really have any advice, I'm just going with the flow really. You know your own baby best, sometimes I can settle DS without a feed but sometimes he's obviously hungry. I've stuck to a bedtime routine roughly around the same time each night ( but flexible depending on his mood and his last nap ) which I think helped him to go to sleep quicker and easier, as we did go through a phase of screaming at bed time. I'm moving him into the cotbed in his own room this week as he's outgrowing his crib, I'm hoping this will help me sleep a little better as I won't be disturbed as much by his every squeak!

Someone else might have some better advice but I think the general consensus is that you just have to ride it out! Though for some people it only lasts a couple of weeks, so you never know you might be lucky.

Seriouslysleepdeprived Sun 28-Oct-12 21:51:44

I hate to say it but DS woke around seven times a night from around 12-20 weeks due to all the developmental stuff. Was a total nightmare. Co-sleep if you can, sleep when they sleep. It started improving on its own thankfully from 21 weeks on. Was waking once a night until he got sick with colds etc, so it does get better! smile

GailTheGoldfish Sun 28-Oct-12 08:44:28

Resurrecting this thread again after a crappy night with 14 week old farting, wriggling, lifting up legs and smacking them down WWF-style DD. She was happily doing 6 hour stretches most nights until the damn 12 week development leap but I cannot help but think this is the 4 month regression come early. Co sleeping is getting more and more difficult as she just wriggles so much and every time I put her down she wakes up now.... Please come back all of you and give an update - are things getting better? Any new things you have discovered?

Babygedon Mon 22-Oct-12 05:52:31

Hi have just been reading this thread , my ds is just 8 months and for the last few weeks his sleep has deteriorated , he has never slept for longer than 3.5 hrs in a block since birth , however recently he has begun waking every 1.5 hrs, he is ebf, and wants to latch when he wakes, he eats good portions of food approx 3 times day and does not fed that much off me any more in the day, but at night we can be getting up 5/6 times a night for mini feeds, just the last few days he has been getting up at 5 am , he used to sleep till 7am , I'm finding the whole lack of sleep quite soul destroying , tried all sorts to resolve nothing works, dh does not agree with cc and I also would find it difficult , am hoping this is a 'phase' which he will grow out of but not sure how much longer I can cope with lack of sleep, I thought it was just my baby that did this all my friends baby's sleep through

CommanderShepard Sun 21-Oct-12 22:22:52

Mine has just hit 5 months and has gone from sleeping through to up every two hours demanding application of boob to mouth.

Not that she slept through for very long but... <wail> I was getting used to it! She is coldy and teethy at moment so that might be it but crikey I hope this passes soon.

(The next person to suggest she needs solids will be belted)

By the way... Indith, are you a Castlewoman? <cryptic>

Seriouslysleepdeprived Thu 18-Oct-12 08:15:03

suzy a prem 7 week old shouldn't go longer than 3-4 hours between feeds. Their tummies are still tiny. Knackering but necessary.

Well done for fostering, it's something I would love to do one day. sad about the drug dependency. I've worked in addiction services & it broke my heart.

DS woke pretty much two hourly from 6 weeks to 5/6 months, with all the growth spurts. Have you seen The Wonder Weeks Really brilliant for keeping your sanity!!

Yamyoid Thu 18-Oct-12 04:55:45

6 month old dd has decided to be wide awake right now. Rather than her usual waking for a feed every 2 hours.

Sorry not read whole thread but shock there's an 8 month sleep regression? nooooooo!! So, have just learnt that this could be over in a month's time, only to start again a month later. I give up.

Suzymum100 Thu 18-Oct-12 04:04:16

7 weak old premature. Drug dependant baby. Only sleeps 3/4hrs at a time sad
Am fostering him and he is adorable but omg 2 feeds a night for the last 6 Weaks. Am losing the will to live here

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Sun 30-Sep-12 02:51:01

DD always seems to know when I'm about to start sleep training (again) and makes it twice as hard as normal to get her settled. Bored of no sleep....

scaryg Fri 28-Sep-12 19:55:43

Another one with a sleep regression... DD has just turned 9mths and used to go to bed about 6pm quite reliably (feed to sleep) but wake every 2 hours for a feed. Now she has a nap at 6pm wakes 20-30minutes later all happy chappie and then goes to sleep proper about 8pm (last night it was after 9pm). I dont mind the 2 hourly feeding (I cosleep) its the later bedtime and not having any time to myself in the evening that's starting to nark me off...

Indith Fri 28-Sep-12 19:30:08

Nope never!

It is always best to have a chat with someone and get it checked out though. It can never hurt. Teeth can cause latch problems too of course as it can hurt to feed so they try to latch in a different way and then the tooth comes through and thye don't quite know what to do with it. It normally calms down after a bit and you jsut have to be really good at making sure they are latched on properly like when they were newborn! I find with mine that going back to latching with hand supporting shoulders etc newborn style (I imagine now you probably just hold him in the crook of your arm?) helps as it encourages the head to tip back for a nice wide mouth.

Cydonia Fri 28-Sep-12 19:13:59

I'd never thought of tongue tie before as didn't think he had the symptoms, but the more I read the more of it applies to him. I'm not sure though, as a lot of the signs could be other things too. It's just recently that I've got sore and only on one side, and his feeding pattern has changed too. He's going through a lot at the moment as is teething and really changing in himself too, so much more alert and active - just watching him concentrating on grabbing his foot as I type!
Think my first port of call will be BF group on thursday ( hope my nipples can hold out til then! ) and see from there. Nothing's simple is it?!

Indith Fri 28-Sep-12 16:55:18

Cydonia sounds rough. It is the slipping and losing the latch that could suggest something going on. It is definitely worth asking for a specialist to have a look. Is there a LaLecheLeague perspn near you at all? They can often be a good starting point.

You know the more I find out about tongue tie the more I think dd is. It certainly explains how bad she was to feed. shame I didn't know about it back then. As she got bigger feeding did settle but when smaller her latch was too shallow, she struggled, we all screamed and cried. She even had the tell tale clicking but nobody picked it up.

wish these bloody teeth would come through. poor me ds2.

artifarti Fri 28-Sep-12 16:36:21

Cydonia - my DS1 had tongue tie. What makes you think he might have it? DS1 took ages to feed, made me sore and dribbled milk everywhere when he fed. Will look at your other post.

Cydonia Fri 28-Sep-12 16:18:08

Oh no Seriously, not another bloody growth spurt?!
I'm actually thinking of getting him checked for tongue tie ( posted about this in feeding ) as I think he has a lot of the signs, but I could just be clutching at straws.

Afritutu Fri 28-Sep-12 15:42:58

I never heard Of this sleep regression thing until this thread!! We never had it with dd1. She was a complete bugger in the evenings and never properly 'went to bed' until way after 10pm, but then from 4 months she would sleep through to 6 or 7 am. It had taken years to bring bedtime forward. Now at nearly age 3 it is 8.30-9ish. But when asleep, she stayed asleep u less ill.
Dd2? No chance. Out like a light at 7pm (hurray, I have evenings, or at least some time alone with dd1). But at 6 months, and on 3 meals a day for over a month, she still wakes from midnight onwards. Typically at least 2 feeding sessions, and additional settling, dummy in, rocking, in the bed with us etc. she has never ever 'slept through'. And I do 't expec her to any time soon. She barely sleeps in the day either, what is it with these babies???

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Fri 28-Sep-12 09:09:55

DH being utterly useless and a) didn't give DD her dream feed b) is playing on his fucking online game so loudly it's waking her up. It's one thing me dealing with all the nighttime bollocks if it's because he has to be up for work, quite another if he's just up late and being a PITA.


Seriouslysleepdeprived Fri 28-Sep-12 08:20:56

I woke a couple of nights ago to find the monitor off & DS crying. I felt terrible. Poor little guy didn't know what was going on. He was totally stuck on his tummy at the bottom of the cot. sad

There's a big growth spurt between 14-19 weeks, so that's no doubt the culprit. I found them all awful but that one especially bad. I don't think DS slept at all for about 10 days!

Rubbish night here. Seem to be coming down with a cold. Feel rubbish this morning. DH has been away all week and I cannot wait for him to come home!

Cydonia Thu 27-Sep-12 23:01:15

Well we're about 6 weeks into this nonsense and after a brief spell of hope it's actually getting worse! DS used to sleep at least 3 hours after being put to bed, he's now introduced a new wake up time of about 10.30pm ( usually goes to bed about 8.30pm ) He's teething too which isn't helping.
I have tried getting him to settle without being fed, also using 'shush pat' but it rarely works. After last nights attempt, where he screamed in my arms for 15 minutes before I caved in and fed him, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he is hungry after all. He's only 18 weeks after all, if he's still like this once I've started weaning him I'll have to rethink the plan!

Currently feeling guilty as I hadn't noticed the batteries had gone in the monitor, when I realised I dashed to check him and he was awake and crying sad I just hope he hadn't been like that for long, am telling myself if he'd really been screaming I would have heard him. Poor thing, what a rotten mother. Maybe we should have splashed out on a fancy video monitor after all instead of borrowing a very basic one.

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Thu 27-Sep-12 15:49:10

Can I join? DD is 10months and has apparetnly been going through the 9month sleep regression for 6weeks. Finally figured out she doesn't need feeding in the night but she's gone from realiably waking at 5am and feeding/cuddling to sleep to now howling the house down at 1am - took til 3:30am last night to get her to sleep. I think nap refusal is early dropping of her first nap but of course when she wakes in the night she practises crawling, pulling herself up, clapping her goddamn hands....endless

Even worse that like OP, her brother had been sleeping through for 2months by this age.

I'm so BORED of not having a full night's sleep....

Indith Thu 27-Sep-12 11:49:42

Well arti we didn't get long of doing it because ds2 is now full of snot and teething agan!

What I did though was a very very rapid pat on his back and if he thrashed around and turned I just patted his tummy instead because I want him t find his own comfy sleeping position. That is the hardest part I think, not picking him up and turning him over etc in the cot all the time or fishing him out of the corner. I do the rapid patting then when he calms down leave my hand there. If he stays calm take it away and wait a couple of mins to make sure he is asleep. If he starts wriggling and complainaing again I start patting straight away. First night he screamed at dh for half an hour but dh was pratting around singling twinkle twinkle and stuff. He has not cried at me for more than 5 mins doing the patting.

I don't know how much effect it will have though since we've not done it for long before the cold hit so we've not cut any waking yet, just have a way of getting him to sleep that doesn't involve feeding. Which is rather good since he was getting cross with me for trying to feed him when he wasn't hungry! Still feeding to sleep at bedtime, have yet to see about putting him down awake.

artifarti Thu 27-Sep-12 09:48:42

Have been lurking but not posting for a few days but DS2 has gone from bad to worse. I think I had about 2.5 hours sleep last night; he is just using me as a human dummy every time he wakes up (every 1-2 hours).

Indith - how long did it take for the sh/patting to work. I remember doing it successfully with DS1 but if I try with DS2 it doesn't work at all - I've tried sitting with him for up to an hour (not always crying, sometimes quiet, sometimes playing). Do I need to try for longer to begin with, do you think?

ballroompink Thu 27-Sep-12 09:24:16

Good night Tuesday (7:45-3:30, 5-7:50) but last night we were back to waking every two hours again! Wind and teeth were the culprits this time. Anyone else really envy people whose DCs wake at the same times each night?

Indith Tue 25-Sep-12 07:20:08

Well my baby woke at 10pm full of snot so that's the patting to sleep out of the window for a bit. Dh escaped to the spare room again and me and snotty shared a bed.

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