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Please help me make sense of my family, particularly parents

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anothermat · 11/07/2018 00:30

This is very long so please bear with me. I have two truly amazing small children who are my world. Partner has been mainly emotionally abusive, at times physically - far less so physically- in the past two years.
As a last straw, I agree to relationship counselling recently. During the first session, the counsellor pointed out to DP that some of his behaviour was very controlling towards me and alluded to the Archers storyline of coercive control.
I'm pretty much raising our children single-handedly since day one...he has been an absent father for much of their lives, until recently routinely didn't come home at all and would spend whole nights away (drinking and goodness knows what else). Although he is currently not drinking, his presence at home and around the children is mainly deeply unpleasant - highly argumentative, does not care about the deeply offensive and inappropriate things he can say in front of the children, bad-mouthing me in front of them...the list goes on.

I found the courage to leave him two years ago after an abortion I felt I pressurised into. Under the relentless pressure of juggling a full-time career, long commute, his non-stop intimidation, I had what was probably akin to a nervous breakdown. I lost my job a few weeks later and found myself at my most vulnerable in my whole life. I pleaded with my parents for help but their response was pretty much to suck it up and carry on.
I typed and printed a letter the next morning to my GP outlining my circumstances, as I had no option but for my children to accompany me to the appointment and did not want them to hear the reasons for my being there. I allowed the GP to read the letter and my reasons for seeking help. The GP was very compassionate and after two weeks of taking sertraline, I felt a whole lot better.
In the interim, DP came back like a knight in shining armour, all loving, supportive and apologetic. My parents were singing his praises. I believed all the nonsense and allowed him back into our lives.
Within days, he was out drinking every night. I can scarcely remember a week when he spent more than two nights at home with us - by that I mean sleeping at home.
I tolerated this as I felt that actually we were all happier on the nights when he didn't come home. Basically, life was good when he wasn't around. The children loved that I was there for them and I loved that I could be there for them too.
I started to make friends- good friends -locally. DP resented this - on a night out earlier this year, he repeatedly sent messages insisting I come home. My friends noticed and decided to accompany me home as they were worried about me. There were party invitations, social events and close friendships forged - I was so happy - finally I had a support network around me.
I tolerated the manner in which DP treated me knowing that he would not be around much, that is was a temporary situation and particularly that my children were so much happier having me around, all the while firmly making plans for a future without him.
The only reason why I am still with him is that I have been financially dependent on him until now. This is about to change.

My parents and family have always found DP charming and very charismatic - he certainly is when they are around! They refuse to entertain any discussion of us separating or any hint that he is not quite treating me well. However during a half-term visit, they witnessed him staying out all night, unable to get out of bed before noon and me scrounging around for basics.

The background is that I was adopted shortly after birth and was raised as the eldest of four (all adoptees) by incredibly strict and religious parents. I was always a 'good girl' - very compliant, high achiever at school and university etc. Ive always felt unloved, or rather that love was conditional, that nothing I ever did quite met their expectations. I also feel infantilised by my parents, that they never quite accepted that I am an adult, with my own desires, personality and talents. I feel very judged and that everything I do is portrayed in a negative light.

Last week I called my parents as I wanted them to know of my plans to leave DP and start a new life away from the abusive behaviour.

I literally cannot believe their reaction - disbelief about things DP has done and said to me, defending him (for instance, I must have provoked him to elicit a physical response from him?), treating me like a child (how on earth would I cope alone without him? who besides him would have me? if it was that bad why didn't I leave before now?), the statement that they won't take sides but that I clearly don't have their support- truly awful stuff I am reeling from. A message today asking to 'send DP our regards'.

I also found out from DP, and via my brother, that DP was in contact with my brother after the birth of DC2 insinuating that I should be 'sectioned' with post-partum depression. My brother lives abroad, has very little contact with me - we are not close at all. How could he possibly be in a position to judge my ability to parent my children as opposed to the community wife who was hugely supportive and pleading with DP to actually help out. When DC2 was 11 days old, I suffered an agonising infection after my C-section due to over-exertion and was admitted to A&E. At home in bed later that evening after being discharged, DP arrived home drunk and insisted that I take DC2 and myself and sleep on a blow-up mattress on the floor as the double-bed was 'his' bed. I could barely walk. He was quick to push me across the room with DC2 in my arms. Somehow I managed to shield her from the fall and block the other bedroom door before he killed me, as he threatened.

Anyway, my parents are now elderly. It has always been incredibly difficult to talk to them about anything - Ive always walked on eggshells. I called on Friday and enquired as to how they were. My dad stated that he wasn't coping with my news, that he was suffered with ill-health as result of my news and did I actually figure out how I would manage without DP?

What on earth would you do in these circumstances? I am leaving DP, that is a given. But I thought my parents would have my back and be supportive. It's kind of like they've shown their true colours? I always felt unloved because actually I wasn't truly loved? Any thoughts?

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Arum51 · 11/07/2018 00:44

I've no idea if your parents love you. However, their behaviour, whatever their reasons for it, is abusive. The childhood you describe unfortunately left you wide open to an abusive adult relationship. They are part of the problem, not the solution, I'm afraid. You've managed to disengage emotionally from your partner (yay you!), but you also need to step back from your parents. I don't know if you included any role for your parents in your escape plans, but if you did, you need to quickly rearrange things.

I'm happy for you that you're moving on! Rely on your friends, the support network you have carefully cultivated. Cut, or greatly reduce, your contact with your parents, as they will only upset and undermine you at the time when you most need support. One thing at a time. Concentrate on getting away from this man first. You can worry about your parents later.

Good luck!

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BoorishJohnson · 11/07/2018 00:45

Anothermat you sound amazing. You are resilient, clever and loving - and you deserve so much more than your immediate family is giving you right now. There is a lot around unconditional parenting that I too am working through and it sounds as though your parents offered their love on rather conditional terms. I think as parents age, they become less able to cope with our needs. Don’t rely on them for emotional or tangible support if they are not capable of offering it. It doesn’t mean they didn’t or don’t love you. They’re just not up to it and you deserve better. Please please use as much of your wonderful friend support network as you can. And please contact Women’sAid before this gets dangerous for you or your children. Are you still in touch with the community midwife? It sounds like your hopefully soon to be ex DP is high risk for you and very manipulative. You may need a back up relocation plan. Sending you hugs x

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confusedbythem · 11/07/2018 07:29

I found my dad to be extremely confused by the concept of emotional abuse and manipulation. It was all about soldering on for the kids despite having a breakdown over the situation. I'm not advocating their frankly appalling reaction, I'm offering a handhold in how shit it is. Keep writing here and let us support you. Mumsnet has your hand while you keep striking forward as best you can. There will be low days unfortunately, but the good ones make it all worthwhile. I'm having a low couple of days at the moment but let me assure you there are bright ones tooThanks

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MrBig1 · 11/07/2018 07:38

Leave partner

No contact with parents

Benefits or work

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Sparkletastic · 11/07/2018 07:49

I would leave them and your DP behind you and focus entirely on living the best life that you can for you and your DCs. You've been through enough. Your parents deserve nothing from you.

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NameChange30 · 11/07/2018 08:01

Oh my goodness. You have endured some awful abuse from your partner and your parents. I feel for you and I admire your strength and resilience.

Unfortunately I think you need to cut contact with your parents, at least for the time being, while you go through the difficult but necessary process of leaving your partner.

The most important thing is to stay safe and get support. Please contact Women’s Aid, talk to your doctor and your friends too.

In terms of understanding your parents’ and partner’s behaviour and their impact on you, and healing from the damage they have caused, I suggest the following:

  • counselling/therapy (ask your GP and/or women’s aid)
  • read “Toxic Parents” by Susan Forward
  • check out the Stately Homes thread
  • read “Why does he do that?” by Lundy Bancroft
  • do the Freedom Programme


Good luck Flowers
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anothermat · 16/07/2018 23:09

Thank you sincerely for your responses. Your messages are hugely supportive. AnotherEmma, I am already on Chapter 4 of Toxic Parents...a very interesting read to say the least and thank you for the recommendation. I've done the online Freedom Programme too...it has helped enormously in terms of validating the decision to seek a life without DP. I will look into Lundy Bancroft and absolutely agree with the suggestion of therapy/counselling.

Feeling stronger and more positive than I've ever felt about the future, whatever it may hold, and in the firm knowledge that DP will not 'let me go' without avenging his anger and wrath and turning this into a hellish nightmare. There are very challenging times ahead. I will keep writing for certain...the summer hols (indeed any hols) have always been fraught.

There is also dreaded family time which was booked ages ago. With respect to family contact, I have decided to maintain the minimum required. This is purely for selfish reasons - for the sake of my own sanity and for minimum drama - DP is providing more than sufficient drama already. I'm am however actively seeking out 'plan B' options if I find myself in situation where I need an escape from my parents home.
But psychologically I have written them off so-to-speak as non-supportive, non-dependable and therefore only vaguely featuring in the future I am carving out for my children.
I keep worrying in particular about when I do get a job (interviews are ongoing which is exciting!!), about that period when life without him can finally commence. DP does not and will not stop until he gets his own way. With things becoming ever more evident to him that he will not be getting his way, what advice can you offer me in terms of safeguarding? He is increasingly attempting to mount the levels of control and stress on me e.g. demands for sex, bad-mouthing me to friends. Any suggestions? I've had a 'gut feeling' for a very long time that DP is capable of ending my life or that of our children. It terrifies me beyond belief. There is nothing concrete to back this up of course beyond empty historic threats to kill me.

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SandyY2K · 17/07/2018 01:35

You are incredibly brave and it's exceedingly disappointing that your parents aren't sensible never mind supportive.

They clearly have issues of their own..but you need to distance them if they cannot be supportive.

A man who would push you after a C section with a new baby is beyond words.

Stay strong and soldier on without your parents. They are manipulative and don't seem to add any value to your life.
In modern times they would find it difficult to adopt with those extreme views if they told the truth during the adoption process.

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SandyY2K · 17/07/2018 01:43

With things becoming ever more evident to him that he will not be getting his way, what advice can you offer me in terms of safeguarding? He is increasingly attempting to mount the levels of control and stress on me e.g. demands for sex, bad-mouthing me to friends. Any suggestions?

The police. Ask to speak to a domestic violence officer.

Tell them your background story and your current fears. They will help/signpost you to the right place for SG. Do not hold back in telling them everything he's done..so they know what he's capably of.

Express your fears that he could end your life. Don't be fobbed off or not taken seriously/or no action taken and if you are...put it in writing and send to the Chief Constable (via special delivery) ... they won't dare ignore that.

Clearly express the fears for your safety based on previous violence.

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heartsease68 · 17/07/2018 02:13

OP, you have my sympathy and I am cheering you on to a new life in safety and freedom. Follow the advice here and stay safe Flowers

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LuvMyBubbles · 17/07/2018 02:58

Oh op sorry you are in this situation. Keep parent contact to none or absolute minimum but anything they do say ignore ignore ignore. As you say they are elderly but this does not have excuse how they treat you
I have no advice about dp but if you have fears call the police they can help

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