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Have I any chance of leaving my husband

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Borris Mon 25-Sep-17 22:20:44

I'm feeling so trapped sad

Several years ago I managed to leave my EA husband with our dc. He persuaded me he'd changed, had counselling etc and I moved back (I know!!)

Things were good for a while. He got a new job several hours away from home.

We all moved there to stay together as a family.

6 months later he got made redundant.

That was 18 months ago. The EA has been creeping back in. It's in a different, more subtle way. Less name calling and rudeness. But I'm tiptoeing round again and he sulks and ignores me if I upset him.

Recently a friend at our church took me to one side and asked if he always spoke to me how she witnessed and said that no one should speak to me like that. That's opened my eyes. I feel sick and realise that he is controlling me again.

I want to move back home with the dc. I had friends there, family, a good job, a nice church.

But he's SAHD as out of work. The dc are settled in school here. He's making no effort to find work

If I moved back I could go back to my old job 3 d a week.

But he'd never let me move dc. And as he is SAHD wouldn't he get to stop me moving with them.

I feel such a fool. I could be happy and settled if I'd not gone back

I don't see a way out other than waiting till dc leave home but that's years away.

Bibbidee Mon 25-Sep-17 22:30:12

First thoughts, I'd move back. The kids would settle in another school, mine did. Are you a Christian OP?

Borris Mon 25-Sep-17 22:35:53

But can I move back with dc without husbands permission. As he is SAHD can he refuse to let them come with me.

I don't want to move back without them.

Yes I'm a Christian. Well we are but I don't see much of it in him.

Bibbidee Mon 25-Sep-17 22:40:31

If I was in your position, I'd move back with the kids...you're not moving country are you?

Is there anyone at church that can support you or give you any advice? On a faith level, is there a prayer group who could pray for you?

Winteriscomingneedmorewood Mon 25-Sep-17 22:43:22

Your dh could take you to court to prevent the move - if he had enough time -
If you had a case against him an order could stand in your favour..
Gather evidence and speak to a solicitor. .
And you need to stash some cash too.
Confide in someone in rl to help you. .
You can do this op.

ChicRock Mon 25-Sep-17 22:45:53

You need urgent legal advice.

As he is a SAHD he may argue that he's the main carer for your children, and as it's you that wishes to end the relationship then you leave him in the family home with the children and pay him maintenance.

Get yourself to a solicit asap.

Borris Mon 25-Sep-17 22:51:04

I think the friend at church would support me. She says I can phone her whenever. I cried when she talked to me. It was such a relief to know I wasn't crazy.

She suggested keeping a diary of the things he does so I've started that. Although for the first few weeks after my realisation he was lovely. But the last few days he's been sulky and unkind again. Which has prompted my posting.

No I'd be moving counties but not country.

I have some money.

I'm so scared of him getting an order to prevent a move.

I feel so sick that we moved for his job and now I'm the one working full time when I loved working part time. And I feel like me being full time would result in him getting greater custody of dc

Borris Mon 25-Sep-17 22:52:29

The only reason he's SAHD is that he got made redundant. But he's made no effort to find another job. I was part time until we moved here. It feels so unfair.

Borris Tue 26-Sep-17 13:43:58

Just thinking. Would trying to persuade us all to move home be an option and then separate later be an option. Seems a bit callous to move him back on false pretences though. Although he'd have better chance of getting a new job there than here

jumbleblob Tue 26-Sep-17 15:16:00

Why don't you try the Freedom Course? You could ask him to leave if it feels safe to do so. He might refuse but if he is, as you say, abusive then women's aid may be able to advise you of your rights as far as safety is concerned.

jumbleblob Tue 26-Sep-17 15:17:04

*Freedom Program

fuzzywuzzy Tue 26-Sep-17 15:21:47

Personally I'd build up my running away fund, apply for schools for kids near your family and also arrange a place to stay. Then I'd simply take the kids and leave and start divorce proceedings thereafter.

I wouldn't care whether it's callous or not, I'd be taking care of my kids and myself.

jeaux90 Tue 26-Sep-17 15:31:21

Are you renting or do you have something to sell? If you need to sell you could then move back and just rent. Start divorce proceedings and then divide the assets easier perhaps.

Or if you are renting you take the new rental in just your name then tell him to move out.

Or just leave. Rent your own place. You can settle access arrangements via the court.

CousinKrispy Tue 26-Sep-17 15:46:14

Talk to a solicitor as soon as you can.

You need to put yourself in a position of as much strength as possible. An EA partner will suck as strength from you.

So the entire family moving back to your old home so you will be in a greater position of strength when you separate might help. But you have to balance that against the risk that he might try digging in his heels and refusing to move.

Good luck with everything!

Thinkingaboutarevolution Tue 26-Sep-17 16:00:22

Your plan of convincing him to move back then separating was what I was thinking. I couldn't care less about being callous, it is him or you here. He hasn't worried about being kind to you for the last few years, has he.
The other thing to do as well, is to look into how you build a good case to show his emotional abuse.

LIZS Tue 26-Sep-17 16:03:54

How old are the dc? Unless they are taking exams shortly most children adapt to changing schools. WA may be able to refer you to a solicitor.

LuckLuckLUCK Tue 26-Sep-17 16:21:50

Christ, don't worry about being callous!!!

LostwithSawyer Tue 26-Sep-17 16:27:52

Call solicitors in your area, some offer 30 mins free advice. Take it.

AhNowTed Tue 26-Sep-17 16:30:04

First you need to recalibrate your thinking about his status.. he's not a SAHD, he's unemployed.

Second if he lost the job you moved for, there's nothing keeping you there - adrift and with no practical support.

I'd be looking for a new job in my home county.

SandyY2K Tue 26-Sep-17 16:36:07

I go with the plan to convince him to move back.

BoomBoomBoomBoooom Tue 26-Sep-17 16:51:18

How old are DC?

You should leave. It will influence them if they have to live with EA.

Kr1s Tue 26-Sep-17 20:27:58

Please get legal advice. And ask your church friend for support .

Borris Tue 26-Sep-17 22:58:41

Thanks everyone for the wise advice and kindness.
DC are primary age. He is a good dad except has pretty high standards for school work, sports and general 'effort' in life.

I'm certain he would point blank refuse to leave the family home. He does not think he's done anything wrong. In fact when I called him out on the way he spoke to me recently he initially said there was nothing wrong with it at all. Although he did apologise the next day as "it's not worth making me react this way"

I am writing things down. The problem is most things are really minor - sulking when I'm 5 minutes late for dinner, pointedly not asking about an evening spent with an old friend even when I bring it up, ignoring me after I've phoned my parents etc.

He would say he's done everything I asked when we got back together- no longer outwardly criticising my body post dc, no longer refusing any contact with my parents etc.

But he now refuses to comment on which dress looks best as "it's not worth getting into that" which tells me he still doesn't think I look ok otherwise he could say dress a looks nice. He never complements me. We have no physical intimacy as he prefers a more toned body. It ruins your self confidence.

So I think I will try and get some proper legal advice. I'm just so frightened of ending up in a home alone having to pay him to look after dc when I dearly would love to work less hours and do more school runs.

Will work on us all moving back. After all my desire to move back would be of equal importance to his to stay here. I'm sure I could return to my old job.

Sorry for rambling

rizlett Wed 27-Sep-17 07:22:46

I don't feel you are rambling at all op. To me it looks like you are being very clear about what you want to happen and at the same time working through what has happened to date.

We are here and ready to listen to you op - whatever it is you want to say. Whatever you feel is justified. Keep on thinking it through and working out what you want for you and your dc.

Getting some proper legal advice sounds like a really good first step.

Keep on making notes - they may seem minor to you but they all add up to make a picture of someone not treating you in a good way. They all spell out the way he is. Write everything down you can think of - dates are very good to include.

It might help to look at the womens aid website - to give you more of an idea of inappropriate/appropriate behaviour and to help with what to include in your notes.

There's a good book too called 'Why Does He Do That' which will give you more insight - if thats what you want.

It's ok to ask for and get support here and with your RL friend.

seven201 Wed 27-Sep-17 07:36:44

You are right to be making plans. You keep saying about wanting to return to your 3 day a week job. Most parents can't afford to work part time (although of course many would love to) and I don't mean to sound mean. Could you go back to your old job 5 days a week? Would your wage cover the wrap around childcare you'd need (you said they're primary age so no hefty nursery fees anymore) along with other life costs? No-one 'needs' to be a stay at home parent for primary kids so he needs to get a job. Would he accept help with the job search? Only saying this as you mentioned being worried he'll get main custody due to being the stay at home parent. Most of us on here don't know what's best though so I really think you should get proper advice. Maybe start with women's aid and go from there. Continue to be the strong woman you are proving yourself to be. You will get there.

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