A message for the wise and wonderful women who help so many on the Relationships topic....

[MardyBra]

... I think you're wonderful.

I don't come onto this section much as I don't want to "rubberneck" at other people's misfortunes, but whenever I do look at a thread or two, I'm always astounded at the time, effort and emotional energy that some MNers invest in helping complete strangers. And it's always the same names. So many wise words; so many people helped.

That's it, really. As you were.

[Anniegetyourgun]

The man-hating harpies, you mean?

[thesunshinesbrightly]

pah

[MardyBra]

Annie - if I'm ever in the position of needing some man-hating harpies (and RL people let me down), it's nice to know where I can find some.

[freeandhappy]

i agree with you wholeheartedly mardybra!

[Anniegetyourgun]

Ah, we do a good class of harpy here, sure enough.

[chubsasaurus]

I agree. I've had so much support on here over the past 7 months as my relationship went through two bad patches and ultimately ended horribly. If the harpies could now remove the pain in my chest and the mind dulling sadness that would also be nice :(

[JeffTracy]

They are not all man-haters. I often read an unkind post directed at a man and wonder what he is like in RL, but often its followed pretty much straightaway by someone else suggesting its not all his fault. So it isn't all one-way traffic, honest.

[MardyBra]

freeandhappy. I don't hear that often.

[freeandhappy]

But where is the wonderful wwifn? I was away for a bit and now she's gone? Or name changed? I don't think it's man hating on here. Just supportive of women. Wish there'd been mumsnet when I was young and having my babies and I recommend to all the mums I know now, young and old!

[garlicbutter]

Thanks for the chuckle, Sunshine! There's room for you on my broomstick ...

[thesunshinesbrightly]

You think my rather huge bottom will fit?

[BertieBotts]

It's not so much man-hating as holding men to decent standards of treating others, especially their wife/girlfriend! the hating is directed at those who fall below those standards

[Anniegetyourgun]

Speak for yourself, Bertie. I enjoys a bit of hatin'.

[AnyFucker]

the marvellous wwifn has left MN, unfortunately

[AnyFucker]

I certainly hate some men

those men that treat women like shit, and trash their families, oh yes, am not denyin'

[freeandhappy]

Well that's a big loss. Reading her posts was an education. Massive respect to you too af for always encouraging everyone to believe there are good men out there and that mature respectful relationships between men and women are possible x

[clam]

AF, I'm not sure she has, actually. Think she might be lurking under a name-change, athough I haven't noticed her distinctive style recently.

[AnyFucker]

clam, I certainly hope that is the case

[AnyFucker]

Well thanks, FAH, it helps if you can really believe it

for a while, I didn't, I wish I had had MN back then, that is for sure

[UnhappyLizzie]

I haven't been on here long, but long enough to appreciate that AF is a MN, maybe a national, treasure

[drfayray]

I agree OP! I am going through a really shit time and posting in relationships has helped me so much. I read through the advice late at night when I cannot sleep and crying/worrying. Helps me so much.

[AnyFucker]

not every piece of advice is right for you

not everything comes at the right time for you

some of it feels very, very uncomfortable to hear

some of it we are not ready for

some of it can feel like an attack on someone we love

lots of it we can absorb and apply it to our own lives, lots we can discard as just not relevant, or not relevant for right now

the collective wisdom of Mn though, is a brilliant resource, to use as, how and when it suits us best

[headfullofconkers]

Well, I'm one of the beneficiaries of some of the good advice that's on offer here as well as much support and understanding, so a thank you from me to all those people who take time out of their, no doubt, busy lives to help strangers.

I have to ask, why did WWIFN leave? I always enjoyed reading her wise words. I also used to love a poster called Grace, I think she was calling herself GraceAgain when I last read her postings, but I've not seen her around for ages. She was an absolutely lovely poster, helped me a lot working through family stuff on Stately Homes. I used to wish I knew her in RL, she was just so wise and kind (had a break from MN when DS born last year and again after moving house this year, so maybe I missed something).

[AnyFucker]

Grace is here posting under another name

WWIFN left after some unpleasantness with a couple of posters who took exception to her popularity and decided to try and trash her reputation

nice, eh ?

[Anniegetyourgun]

Grace is still around? I hadn't realised. Excellent.

I'm another fan of WWIFN. That doesn't mean I always agreed with her, but we were able to discuss differences like rational beings. It wasn't nasty. That thread to which you refer, that really was. It's a pity the bastards won.