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what can u not eat when u r a diabetice please

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babyjjbaby · 25/07/2008 15:13

just been diagnosed a diebetic and seeing doctor on monday but getting worried what do u have to cut out completly and what do u have to have as i treat if u r a dieabetic would u be able to tell me what ur typical days food is thanks

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LIZS · 25/07/2008 19:21

pil's have late onset diabetes. Basically they have cut down on carbohydrates (potato, pasta etc) and limit sweet stuff. You should get referred to a regular clinic where they can advise you on diet to suit your particular type, whether you need drugs to help get it under control and how to monitor your blood sugar levels.

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babyjjbaby · 25/07/2008 20:37

ok thanks going to doctr and nurse on monday they have already said i will need tablets i just been spking to a friend who is diabetic and he has sadi u just need everything in moderation like cutting back on sugary stuff and if u want a treat have it like a few sqares of choclate or a ice cream once a week or summit won't hurt so am feeling a lot better now also i already have no added sugar jelly sqaush pop don't have sugar on me cerals or coffe so feeling alot better now

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elmoandella · 25/07/2008 20:47

my nephew diabetic. he can eat everything. but in moderation for the high carbs stuff. also, beware of natural sugars. he has to be very careful with how mch fruit he eats. and also, fruit juices and some diluting juices. he sticks to diet drinks and water.

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babyjjbaby · 25/07/2008 20:56

what i shi carbs i like the batchelors pasta n sauce things for lunch and then potatoes for tea is that ok

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zippitippitoes · 25/07/2008 20:59

those are not the best because they are refined

try looking up a gi diet which would be good

you will get some advice dont worry

alcohol is not so good and any refined sugary things..just because they cause spikes

you want to aim for slow absorption

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babyjjbaby · 25/07/2008 21:08

don't drink anyway only every few mths

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zippitippitoes · 25/07/2008 21:12

basically you need to eat at regular btimes

eat food that isnt packed wrapped and ready prepared

so at each meal you need a balance of protein veg and carbs

you can eat cake etc but it is harder to keep in balance and better not to

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Spidermama · 25/07/2008 21:14

You need a Low GI diet basically with slow release energy in the form of complex carbohydrates (oats, wholemeal bread) cut right down on sugar and fatty stuff.

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babyjjbaby · 25/07/2008 21:22

yeh but it won't hurt eating packeages stuff like pasta na sauce will it what would u eat for lunch also what do u have for snacks

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Toothyboy · 25/07/2008 21:24

Am not diabetic myself, so not an expert, but a friend of mine is. From what she tells me she eats and drinks whatever she wants and just adjusts how much insulin she injects. She is an expert in the nutritional content of food, having been diabetic since she was about 10.

Don't worry too much babyjj, you'll soon get the hang of it, I'm sure . Good luck at the docs.

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babyjjbaby · 25/07/2008 21:28

thanks i don't want to have to cut out the things i like i love potatoes and pasta

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zippitippitoes · 25/07/2008 21:29

being on tablets is not particularly flexible but it also means you should do well on a balanced diet

some foods are processed rapidly like your pot noodle snack so cause a bit of a sugar spike

what you ned to aim for is a steady level amount o f energy release to your blood

so unprocessed foods are much better

a low gi diet is exzcellent for this

so eg oats are better than cornflakes

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tangarine · 25/07/2008 21:41

Hi babyjjbaby,

I was on your other thread when you were being tested. I am glad you have got to the bottom of things, although sorry to hear that you have diabetes. As other people have said you will need to follow a normal balanced diet, with low GI carbs. I'm sure your doctor will be able to give you lots of good advice - hope it goes well next week. I don't know much about type 2, as my ds has type 1 and they are very different.

Try not to think of certain foods being a "treat" - as soon as you get into that frame of mind they become twice as attractive and you start to crave them. Instead think about how you can incorporate sweet things - if that is what you want - into your diet - e.g. having a wholemeal flapjack instead of a fondant fancy.

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zippitippitoes · 25/07/2008 21:49

potatoes for example a baked potato is better than mashed potato is better than crisps

so spaghetti is better than pot noodle and wholemeal lasagne is better than white spaghetti

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CantSleepWontSleep · 25/07/2008 22:06

I was also on your previous thread babyjj. Sorry to hear that your tests proved positive.

I currently have gestational diabetes, which is quite like your type 2 except that mine should go away once my baby arrives.
My brother has type 1.

A typical day's food for me might be:
Breakfast - slice of wholemeal toast with an egg
Snack - apple or crackerbread with soft cheese
Lunch - chicken kiev or piece of fish with peas and sweetcorn. You may well be able to have some new potatoes with this too, but mine is solely diet controlled (ie no tablets) so I have a little less flexibility. You could def have new potatoes if you had plain chicken or fish instead.
Snack - banana or slice of ham/sausage
Dinner - wholewheat pasta twists with mushrooms, bacon, onions, tomatoes.
Supper - slice of wholemeal toast with peanut butter.

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johnworf · 26/07/2008 07:55

Hi ladies,

Just a quick post from me. I had GD and have now delivered. Was injecting insulin. If you have GD you won't be prescribed tablets as these will affect LO.

I tried the low GI diet at first and managed for a couple of weeks to control blood sugars using diet alone. However, as pregnancy progresses, pancreas cannot keep up with the amount of insulin required. This was when I had to start controlling mine using insulin. Btw, I was diagnosed at 16 weeks gestation using GTT.

I was told during my pregnancy that my diabetes would probably disappear when I delivered. I have since done my blood sugars randomly and been to see my endocrinologist. Here is a snippet of the letter that he sent to my GP:

"........she will try and adhere to her healthy eating plan to control her weight and to maximise her exercise. She understands she is at increased lifelong risk of developing type 2 diabetes and that she can modify this risk with lifestyle adjustments."

My BS's for morning fasting are on the line. I'm not past the risk of getting type 2 and seems I'm likely to get it in the not too distant future if I a) don't drop a couple of stones and b) start exercising in earnest. Even then I'm only delaying it I'm told.

Hope this helps

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NotQuiteCockney · 26/07/2008 08:11

Packaged sauces are often quite sugary, too - home-made, less-processed food is really the way forward, I'm afraid.

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LIZS · 26/07/2008 09:23

A lot of processed, dehydrated foods, such as pasta and sauce mixes, contain high levels of salt, carbohydrates and even sugar. It really is as quick to make your own and maybe freeze portions of sauces so you can put it together in a similar time. You would find it much easier to monitor what you are eating, and the effect of certain foods on your blood sugar, if you make it yourself and know what has gone into the food.

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babyjjbaby · 27/07/2008 09:52

well bought a testing thing and my levels are only 8.7 so not sure why there is so much fuss as my sister is a nurse and she said that sounds fine there is absolutly no way i cannot have potatoes cos that is my main thing i eat me sister has said that the batchelors pasta n sauce will be ok she had a look at the paket and it will be ok she said i thought it was only bad if it went low so what is the big deal bout it going up higer aslong as it doesn't go up to like 30 or summit i love potaotes if i couldn't eat them then i'd starve cos i don't really like meat

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NotQuiteCockney · 27/07/2008 09:55

When did you test? Had you just eaten? Ideally it should never go higher than 10.

If it goes over 10, it can damage your vision, your extremities ... lots of diabetics who don't manage their diabetes well end up blind or missing a limb. Oh, yeah, or dead - my mom died two years ago of a diabetes-related heart attack.

Talk with your GP, as for a referral to a dietician. You can still eat potatoes, but ideally home-made, with skins, etc etc.

You can eat low-GI and no meat!

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NotQuiteCockney · 27/07/2008 09:56

(Also, are you overweight? If you lose weight and manage your diet well, you can vastly reduce the negative effects of your diabetes, and maybe even manage without pills.)

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noddyholder · 27/07/2008 10:06

Those packet things aren't good for you it is white pasta and creamy sugary sauce.What about wholemeal pasta (a little bit)with roasted veg and a tiny bit of cheese?

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greenlawn · 27/07/2008 16:49

My mum terrifies me - she has Type 2, her mum had Type 1. She (mum) is completely in denial and refuses to moderate her diet. She's beginning to suffer the consequences - loss of feeling in her feet, vision problems, etc.

johnworf, I had gd one of my pregnancies - managed to get rid of problems by dropping about 2 stone over and above what I weighed when I got pregnant - but my mum's experience has taught me diabetes isn't funny. Even though I'm fine now I don't feel "out of the woods" at all.

NotQuiteCockney - sorry to hear about your mum - this is what I dread with mine.

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LIZS · 27/07/2008 18:58

Noone's suggested you can't have those foods , just that you need ot ensure a balance of carbohydrates and sugary to maintaain a consistent level rather than have it fluctuate. A few small changes in what you eat may in itself bring it under control. You get symptoms such as thirst or low energy when things are out of kilter and poresumably that is why you have been diagnosed and referred. Most foods are ok in moderation and if you ensure you offset any occasional excesses with either additional insulin , if needs be, or the appropriate foods. The dietary nurse will be able to explain what this means in more practical terms.

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mommy6 · 27/07/2008 20:51

You should aim to keep your blood levels at 4-6 before meals,and no higher than 10 2 hours after you have eaten.So if yours were 8 after you had eaten that would be within range.
If your bloods are over 10 alot,you are at risk of long term complications associated with diabetes.These can damage your eyes, kidneys, nerves, heart and major arteries.
If they fall below 4,you may hypo.A hypo may occur if you have taken too much diabetes medication, delayed or missed a meal or snack, not eaten enough carbohydrate, taken part in unplanned or more strenuous exercise than usual, and have been drinking alcohol without food. Sometimes there is no obvious cause.Treatment is usually very simple and requires taking some fast acting carbohydrate, such as a sugary drink.An hypo can lead to you being unconscious.
I hope you find that helpful.Type 2 diabetes is no less serious.All diabetes is equally serious, and if not properly controlled can lead to serious complications.
Sorry if i have gone on abit,but i lost my nan to diabetes complications.Now my DH has type 2 diabetes,controlled by tablets.But it looks like he will have to start to inject soon.His blood count is never below 17.

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