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PND test online?

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alicecrail Thu 13-Aug-09 19:44:39

I was wondering if there is a PND test you can do online? Someone mentioned it might be a good idea for me to do the test but i don't know where/if there is one.

TBH, i don't find it likely that it is PND, my DD is 21mo, more like just being a sahm blues iyswim?


ErikaMaye Thu 13-Aug-09 19:57:12

This is the link to the Edingburgh PND scale.

Just to say, also, PND can hit at any time, regardless of how old your child is. I'm sorry you're having a rough time right now, have you spoken to your Healthe Visitor / GP?

Hope that helps

alicecrail Thu 13-Aug-09 20:01:37

Thanks, have just had someone on a different thread link to the same one smile

I haven't spoken to anyone professional about it, because i am so worried that they will assess me and decide i can't cope or that i am just overeacting and it is just a bit of a bad patch.

I did that test when DD was a year old and i got something like 6 but now it is 19. How is that possible?

ErikaMaye Thu 13-Aug-09 20:14:08

Just means that now you're having a hard time. Don't beat yourself up.

Chuck, I'll tell you a bit of my circamstances in the hope that it will put your mind at ease a little in reference to professionals

I have Borderline Personaility Disorder, as well as being physically disabled. My partner has an ED. I have a history of self harm and suicide attempts. Last year I was in a physc. unit for six months. I have been on medication - ADs and anti-physcotics - for years. I have been seeing various therapists for half my life.

Social services this week said to me that they think I'm going to be a fantastic mum.

Don't feel worried about asking for help, or admitting your struggling. They will respect you more for doing so, from what I've seen first hand and heard from others.

Is there anything in particular that is getting you down and you'd like to talk about? Am around all evening

PrincessToadstool Thu 13-Aug-09 20:22:51

alice my DS is 21 months, I just took that test and scored 20 and I am working notice in my job in order to be a SAHM... now thinking fuck fuck fuck. Sorry, don't want to hijack your thread.

ErikaMaye Thu 13-Aug-09 20:29:21

PrincessToadstool I'm sorry to hear things are tough for you right now, too Have you been to your GP?

PrincessToadstool Thu 13-Aug-09 20:48:08

Thank you Erika. No, I haven't been to my GP. I will just keep myself to myself

ErikaMaye Thu 13-Aug-09 20:50:45

Are you sure?

For both of you - if either of you want to talk, more privately, or whatever, my email address is Please feel free to message me any time I'm generally always online, at least every hour!!!

alicecrail Fri 14-Aug-09 07:34:19

Thank you smile

I also used to self harm (i haven't done for nearly 4 yrs now) and i have black patches now and again, but since having DD i find they are fewer, and not so severe and don't last for as long.

This time is the first time i have considered cutting myself again. I used to not be able to help myself but now i am able to stop and think which i guess means that i have come a long way.

I always thought i would get PND (my darling mother pretty much told me to expect it - nice) and was surprised when i didn't. Generally being a mum is the best possible thing to have happened to me. I have just found this creeping for a while and together with a bit of an identity crisis has turned into something much bigger than i was expecting.

I can usually think of something that will make me feel better, but this time if i do, it is only temporary.

ErikaMaye Fri 14-Aug-09 18:05:32

I'm going to thank you, too, because hearing that being a mother has had such a postive impact on you has made me feel a bit more hopeful. Four years - that's a HUGE achievement, go you!!! I've managed nearly seven months now

If you get the urges to hurt yourself, try alternatives. I find ice cubes really helpful. Elastic bands are good as wel

Big hugs. I hope today is going better. x

PrincessToadstool Fri 14-Aug-09 19:12:56

Erika I can say the same as Alice, since having DS I have (generally) found it much easier to cope, he gives me a bit of focus. I used to self-harm too and have some terrible scars but I do feel that is in my past now - 6 years. When I start to feel that emptiness creeping in I just try to think of DS and the funny things he does, he is very good at getting a smile or laugh despite how I feel sometimes.

Actually I would urge using things like ice cubes/bands because the alternative can be it manifesting itself in other ways, not eating or drinking, or sabotaging relationships or for me just the thoughts spiralling and getting blacker. I believe that sometimes that can be more dangerous than action, even when that action itself is harmful. I turn on DP and he Does Not Understand and it makes life very difficult. I hate it.

Alice it's funny (not ha-ha funny) but I too expected to get PND and my mother thought I would - kept dwelling on the October due date and months of misery indoors. I spent the whole pregnancy kicking myself over poor planning!

ErikaMaye Fri 14-Aug-09 19:18:39

They reckon its possible I'm going to have a physcotic break - why, thanks guys and dolls, filling me with confidence! Its why I'm going to the hospital I am, because they have a physc. team on the maternity unit.

Yup, I'm due in November - NEXT time I want the baby due in May. Screw this being pregnant in the height of summer stuff grin

Alicecrail Fri 14-Aug-09 21:10:25

It's not so bad, DD was born in November. You are all nicely settled in time for christmas with your new baby smile

I woke up thinking more positive thoughts this morning and although i didn't feel more positive, just thinking along the right lines has helped. Today i have felt like i want to be myself again, whereas yesterday it came to a bit of a head and i was wallowing a bit. I also find that things come to a head more quickly now and then i am able to get over them. I used to have these feelings for months at a time.

I also had an interview today to get on a course to become a Community Parent Volunteer working with the surestart children centres to help parents that feel vulnerable/isolated etc and i am starting to think i would be good at it and it will give me some of my confidence back.

I have found that since having DD i have become a lot more confident in some areas but a lot less in others. I think it is quite common for sahm to feel like they have lost their identity and that is certainly true for me. Doing this course i feel will give me some of that back.

Erika - I think you have to believe you will be a good parent, and although i'm not sure the support you have at home, my advice to any new mother is to get out for an hour at least once a day, possibly twice and to get talking to the other parents you meet and don't feel put off if they snub you, most of the time they are just suffering from lack of sleep and nerves of not knowing anyone. Go to as many activities as you can and use any/all of the resources available to you.

I am able to say this because i have had a better day, and i know that generally these are the only things keeping me sane!

ErikaMaye Fri 14-Aug-09 21:14:32

I actually can't wait to Christmas, don't think I've been this excited about it since I was five grin

I'm so glad you're feeling better today. I've been a bit up and down. That course sounds brilliant, keep us updated on how it goes! I'm starting training to be a councellor next April and can't WAIT.

Thanks for your advice x

Alicecrail Fri 14-Aug-09 21:14:59

By the way, i am still the same Alice, just felt that i needed a capital A on my name as i finally worked out how to go back to my registration details blush wink

Zahora Sun 23-Aug-09 15:42:21

My god I just did the test and scored 26

sb9 Sun 23-Aug-09 19:54:15

I just scored 16!

tiggsy Mon 24-Aug-09 15:36:45

i was diagnosed with pnd a few months ago and my dd is 25 months old. been to see councellor twice and hasn't helped at all. just get so stressed before going and i really don't find her very helpful. asked doc about seeing someone else but none available... which is a great help so just trying to cope on my own now

Kittylenz Sat 17-Sep-11 08:53:27


I've started an honest, open blog about PND and my struggles with motherhood. It's bullsh*t-free and aims to unashamedly express those hard to admit thoughts buzzing around in the sometimes dark places in your mind. Writing it is definitely helping me. Hopefully reading it will help you too.

(And PND Makes Three)

I'm trying to reach as many PNI/D sufferers as possible - any help doing so will be very gratefully will any comments on the blog.

Help is out there and you are not alone.


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