AIBU to suggest that an INSET day on 12th September is annoying?

[Kbear]

1 and 2 Sept were INSET days and they went back on 3 Sept. Another INSET day this soon is annoying. Get 'em in and keep 'em in I say!! Seriously, when you've juggled days off work all summer another INSET day this soon is a PITA. Couldn't they tag it on to half term so if you're going away you get an extra day, or something useful like that?

[Hulababy]

Sounds an odd time.

I wonder if the school is havig a special INSET day speaker in who can only do this day, or it is linked to some topic/theme due just after it, etc.

[Mamazon]

well i am always pounded one when i say that no other profession gets 22 weeks holiday a year.
INSET days are unecessary. the teacher training days can and should be completed during the organised school holidays.

[Feenie]

13 weeks, actually

[Donk]

Besides, Mamazon, the 5 inset days came out of our holiday in the first place....
DO you want them to take them out twice?

[Kbear]

I hate being a moaner about school because they are great schools that they kids attend but sometimes it's the little things that annoy me most!! I feel sorry for full time working parents who find these days off a nightmare, I'm lucky I can swap my days at work that week if necessary.

[Feenie]

And they are completed during our holidays - the 5 days came off time that was originally part of our holidays.

September 12th is completely unreasonable, unless you were warned at least a term in advance. Was that the case here? Some schools are starting the new Literacy/Numeracy framework this year (others chose to begin them both together last year - both require additional training.

[Hulababy]

Mamazon - the INSET days did infact come ut of teacher's holidays. In the past teachers got an additional 5 days holiday. These were taken away from teachers by Baker (hence sometimes called Baker days). So, children still have the same number of holidays as they always have had - just 5 of them can be taken throughout the year as the schools thinks fit depending on what training needs they have at different times of the school year.

Teachers have 13 weeks of school holidays, where children are not in. However, they do spend some of that time working preparing for the next term/year, sometimes in school and sometimes working from home.

[Kbear]

I wouldn't even mind if the school was closed while year 6 did the 11+ but that is the week after.

[Blandmum]

INSET days have always been holidays for the children. They were taken from the teacher's holiday time when Kenneth Baker (the then Sec of state for education) set them up.

[Kbear]

No one can complain about 13 weeks paid holiday though eh? Even if you work half of it, it's still more than any other profession. Not that I'm being into teacher bashing AT ALL, just an observation.

[Blandmum]

and mamazon , we don't get paid for our holidays either.

[Kbear]

I don't mind the kids having the day off it's the childcare and other arrangements that parents have to make, especially after the summer when most parents have used up most of the holiday entitlement covering the summer holidays I would presume. Why not just tag it on to another holiday, like half term?

[pinkteddy]

you'd be amazed at how much of the holidays the teachers work already. I am based in a secondary school (although not a teacher) and most of the senior teachers only took 2-3 weeks off over the summer, they were working the rest of it. Most of the staff came in the first week and the last week. Same for Easter and half terms too. Christmas less so although these days schools more or less get the same time off for xmas as a lot of companies do.

[cascade]

that does seem unusual for an inset day to be at that time. I would tend to agree with feenie that the school is using an outside agencies to lead the inset and this is the only date posssible.

[Kbear]

You don't get paid all summer?

[Hulababy]

True - the holidays is a nice perk for teachers.

The profession is open to anyone who fancies it though. Lots of shortages.

Have been there, done that (for nearly 10 years) - don't want to go back, well not in same way. Would rather have a few less holidays than the amount of stress I had to deal with.

[Donk]

Excuse me Kbear - we DON'T get paid for the holidays - but our pay is just averaged out over the 12 months to give 12 equal amounts.

[Kbear]

All the young single teachers at DD's school when travelling all summer, no working there!

[cascade]

its not paid!!!!!!

[Feenie]

We didn't moan about 13 weeks a year, you did!

Did you receive notice of this last term?

[Hulababy]

Also MB is right - teachers don;t get paid for holidays. They get paid for x number of hours - these are the number of hours they have to be in school. This is then spread over the year, and paid in 12 monthly payments.

[Blandmum]

We get paid for the days that we teach, but to make it easier to budget for morgages etc that money is paid in 12 monthly intallments

[Kbear]

Why the excuse me Kbear? No need to be shirty, it was a genuine question. I get paid in 12 monthly instalments also, with five weeks holiday.

[Donk]

Wasn't meaning to be shirty Kbear, just polite.

[Hulababy]

KBear - I think that is quite unusual TBH. I know when I was teacher I found it essential to spend large parts of the holiday working. In order to be a good, effective teacher I ad to. In my first years I did even more, gradually getting a bet less the more experience I had. This was the norm amoingst those other teachers I knew, and amongst the teachers I know now.