Anyone signed up to the DORE program for Dyslexia?

[aleene]

I would love to hear from anyone who has done the DORE programme for Dyslexia or ADHD, for their DC. It is a big financial commitment so I am wary of signing up. Also can I read anywhere about any independent results about it?

[DCSsunhill]

Gosh, I may be way off track here...but didn't the DORE project got bankrupt some years ago?

I used to work in child protection in Australia and I do remember one family having paid several thousand pounds and then it all went bust.

Maybe that was simply the Australian arm of it. Many apologies if I am way off track...it is a memory that is very strong because of the impact on that family.

[DCSsunhill]

Ah, my memory hadn't failed me.

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[jomidmum]

There is a school near us that use the Dore programme and have huge success with it. I looked at it for my DD but opted for something else.

[BeingFluffy]

aleene, I considered it many years ago but was put off by the cost and the bad publicity. I went for specialist teaching at Dyslexia Action, which helped but DD obviously is still dyslexic. Currently trying Tinsley House (Robin Pauc), which uses a combination of diet, supplements and exercises/eye exercises to improve cerebral function. There are some threads on it in the Special Needs section if you want to have a look.

[SMea]

Have seen loads of positive comments about Dore on facebook

[out2lunch]

not good imo - i know someone who used to work for them
they did go bust a few years ago and i heard they were claiming they could cure neurological illnesses amongst other things.avoid.

[aleene]

Thanks everyone. I didn't realise that it had had some bad publicity. Someone lent me the book but it doesn't tell you much except how great it is. Guess you have to part with cash. It seems a bit smoke and mirrors really.

[DELHI]

Don't want to confuse, but thought I'd tell you about a friend who used it for her dd some years ago. She was delighted with the improvement, sorry don't know more than that, but it seems it can help in some cases. I know the dd had to do balance-type exercises every day without fail.

[MrsTutor]

They went bust a few years back and it's been slated by many experts as a scam. Don't waste your money- for the same amount a child could have a year's worth of 1:1 lessons.

The basis of the program was to stimulate the cerebellum which is responsible for balance and co-ordination. There are books around with the same exercises in, written by highly qualfied dyslexia researchers ( at univerisities) which a parent could follow at home.

However, stimulating the cerebellum has not been shown to improve a child's ability to decode and understand phonics. Any success with this program seemed to be a combination of placebo effect, giving children with ADHD/ADD more time and attention, and children being madeencouraged to read regularly with parents in a way they perhaps did not before.

[IndigoBell]

Stimulating the cerebellum has certainly helped my DDs dyslexia. Immensely.

If your child has severe dyslexia you are far better to spend your money on a neurodevelopment therapy (like DORE) that will help the underlying problem, rather than a dyslexia tutor.

[MrsTutor]

Stimualting the cerebellum may help with balance if children need this, but it won't teach them to understand phonics, or read, or spell.

Books such as these by top university researchers can help parents more cheaply than paying for expensive " treatment."

www.amazon.co.uk/Dyslexia-Learning-Brain-Nicolson/dp/0262140993/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1344580882&sr=8-13&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

[IndigoBell]

Stimulating the cerebellum doesn't teach the kids to read - it improves their brain so that it is easier for them to learn.

They will also need to be taught to read as well as doing neurodevelopment exercises.

But there was no way my DD could learn to read before we'd improved her brain.

[IndigoBell]

Oh, and these 'expensive' treatments she's done are far cheaper than expensive dyslexia tutoring.

And now she doesn't need a specialist dyslexia tutor - because she's able to learn as well as anyone else.

[IndigoBell]

Because my DD has improved so much by doing a neurodevelopment therapy to stimulate the cerebellum, school have done the same thing with their worst 10 students.

They are so pleased with the result that this year they are going to do it with 40 students.

They'd like to do it with more, but logistically that would be very hard to do.

[Lyndaoosterhuis]

Cannot comment about DORE however just finished a dyslexia course run by Academy for (4) Startups, an e-learning platform and what a load of rubbish! In my opinion most of the information is cut and paste from the internet and the analysis provided indicates a lack of understanding of dyslexia. No only that, some of the summaries provided do not appear to have any link to the detail beforehand. Finished the course and no opportunity to provide feedback....I wonder why?
Just some advice, I have worked with dyslexic learners for the last 10 years, and I am yet to meet anybody (Child/Parent) that has been cured. My advice, find the dyslexic learners strengths, and use this to support and improve their weaknesses. In my experience, a large number of dyslexics are very intelligent!

[MaranC]

We used the Dore Dyslexia programme for my son, aged 12, when it was in its early days. I am eternally grateful that we had this opportunity. My son progressed in one year from reading comics to reading books on philosophy by Nietzsche... his own surprising choice. The Dore programme was a financial commitment but we entered into it after having seen an item about its amazing results on the television. The TV producers had asked Dore if they could interview some of their clients. Dore said No, find people yourself, put them through our programme and make your programme on the results you get. Needless to say the results were amazing as told by the people themselves, and by their family members, teachers and work colleagues. All improved in reading, academic areas, self confidence, etc. So we attended the Dore centre every 6 weeks for assessments, which were never about reading, but about balance, eye tracking, etc and charted so we could see if any progress was being made. Based on these we were sent away to do simple physical exercises at home, twice a day. We did these together (because it was nicer to do them with someone) every day wherever we were. Dore used scientists to determine what was at the root of dyslexia, and having determined it was an immature cerebellum, a programme was designed to help. I am not surprised the company went bankrupt, because they employed a lot of medically trained doctors and used highly technical equipment. They probably couldn't cover the costs, even though it was expensive to join the course. My son benefitted enormously from the Dore course and I feel sorry that this is not available for all. A dyslexic is always dyslexic, but helping them improve in the way that Dore helped my son, is just brilliant..... and I met so many parents there whose story was the same as mine. My son is now very successful in business. That says it all.

[loopygoose]

I haven't yet looked at the Dore programme. Here's what I've found to have worked so far.
loopygoosedarling.wordpress.com

[oldbirdy]

Hmm. An immature cerebellum 'causes' dyslexia? My husband is one of very few people to have and survive a cerebellar stroke when he was 7. This destroyed a good part of his left cerebellar hemisphere. It happened during the night and he awoke vomiting and clinging to the bed as he couldn't tell which way up he was. He has some minor physical impairments after extensive physiotherapy (shuffling hair, weak left side). His ability to read, spell, organise and plan and his short term memory were entirely unaffected. Why didn't he 'become' dyslexic?

[oldbirdy]

*shuffling gait not hair, ffs

[JudyCoolibar]

I think Dore has been pretty thoroughly discredited.

[mrz]

www.badscience.net/2008/05/dore-the-medias-miracle-cure-for-dyslexia/

[Gnattydix]

I have just seen this webby. I'm encouraged yet dubious till I read some positive posts here. Dore would not be the first to fly in the face of convention and get hammered by establishment. But caution is needed. Now most of the studies I found re cerebellum and adhd which my DD has are getting pretty old. But I did find this interesting info on a study. Personally it's a monthly payment of $25 per week. My tutor is costing more. Yes the attention from doing daily activities I'm sure would help anyway but what the heck I'm willing to try it.
DD is obs bright and frustrated and confidence is at an all time low and frustration an all time high. I simply can't give her a daily pill and think that is going to solve everything. It won't - she is 10 now and these behaviours are becoming set in a v v bad way.

So folks I will keep you updated and let you know what happens. I have not signed up yet but have emailed for more information. I would like to see the support he now has from the UK medical colleges he mentions too. Will also be good to see how attentative the support is. I'll post back soon.

[LesleyAnn3]

You could acces a version of this with someone face to face. Rhythmic Movements Training works on integrating primitive reflexes. Retained reflexes can be the reason for developmental blocks which in turn causes social, behavioural, educational problems. The therapy is very relaxing and gentle. There maybe a therapist near you if you search on the internet or get in touch with //www.movesmatter.co.uk

[Norestformrz]

http://www.mq.edu.au/data/assets/pdffile/0019/171118/MUSEC-Briefing-Issue11.pdf
“There is no scientific evidence that this exercise program (or any other exercise program) will result in improvement in reading or other academic or social skills. There is also no scientific evidence that the program is likely to be an effective treatment for ADHD or Asperger’s syndrome.”