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what is Molly short for, if anything?

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BeautifulStars93 Wed 22-Jul-15 10:05:34

We like Molly (opinions please)
Also does it have a long version or is not short for anything?

ooerrmissus Wed 22-Jul-15 10:09:00

Love Molly, I was always under the impression it is short for Margaret, but I'd use it in its own.

Fridgedooropen Wed 22-Jul-15 10:09:00

It's traditionally a nickname for
Mary, but has now became a name given in its own right. I quite like it.

AvaCrowder Wed 22-Jul-15 10:09:43

It's a nickname for Mary.

SwearyGodmother Wed 22-Jul-15 10:10:51

Milly Molly Mandy shows age was Millicent Margaret Amanda, so from that I'd go with Margaret.

FunkyPeacock Wed 22-Jul-15 10:11:33

Historically it was a nn for Mary or Margaret but I think these days it is perfectly acceptable to put Molly/Mollie on the birth certificate if that is your preference

AllPizzasGreatAndSmall Wed 22-Jul-15 10:13:13

I always thought it was a diminutive for Margaret.

Timeandtune Wed 22-Jul-15 10:15:30

I thought it was a nickname for Maureen but I can see now that I am probably mistaken!

reuset Wed 22-Jul-15 10:23:02

It's from Mary traditionally.
You get Mall (an old nick name) from Mary, that, in turn, becomes Moll, then Molly. Mally used to be used independently too, and before Molly, obviously, but I don't know if anybody uses it nowadays, though I'd be interested to.

villainousbroodmare Wed 22-Jul-15 10:41:47

Mary to Molly (to Polly to Poll)

Degustibusnonestdisputandem Wed 22-Jul-15 10:42:53

My granny was always known as Molly, and her name was Ethel Mary. smile

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost Wed 22-Jul-15 10:55:36

It's a form of Mary. I have a Molly. She is just Molly though. It isn't short for anything.

RiverTam Wed 22-Jul-15 10:59:09

Margaret.

Sophronia Wed 22-Jul-15 11:13:06

Mary

reuset Wed 22-Jul-15 11:17:36

I'm surprised at Joyce Lankester Brisley. Molly is not short, or known as being short for Margaret. I briefly explained the progression from Mary to Mall, Mally, to Molly. Mary also gives rise to surnames Malleson, Mollison etc

Margaret is great though, and the list of short forms, and connected names, it produced is immense

drudgetrudy Wed 22-Jul-15 20:59:06

I always thought it was Peggy for Margaret and Molly or Polly for Mary.

RiverTam Wed 22-Jul-15 21:03:22

I think it's been an accepted short for Margaret for quite a while, even if that's not its origin - I've read a number of books written in the 1920s and 30s with Mollys in them and it's always been short for Margaret.

reuset Wed 22-Jul-15 21:09:28

Which books?

It's not really an accepted short form, any source or dictionary worth its salt will tell you it's from Mary (just as the Moll and Mall surnames are from Mary). Though of course, it begins with 'm' like Margaret, and you can choose whatever you like as a short form nowadays.

RiverTam Wed 22-Jul-15 21:12:03

Milly Molly Mandy
Chalet school books
To name but 2.
My mum is a 30s woman with many friends called Margaret, and afaik she also regards it as a short for Margaret.

reuset Wed 22-Jul-15 21:14:03

Yes, drudge. Also from Margaret, some old and no longer used:

gretel, gretchen, margot, magge, magot, madge, meg, mog, rita, greta, maisie, maggie, mysie, mergret, meggot, poggy, pog, peg, peggy.
Punning nick names: Daisy and Pearl

SomedayMyPrinceWillCome Wed 22-Jul-15 21:24:32

Monica

RiverTam Wed 22-Jul-15 21:26:29

Why is Daisy a punning nn? Isn't it after the marguerite daisy?

reuset Wed 22-Jul-15 21:32:08

It's a traditional punning nick name for Margaret, and Pearl relates to the meaning. And as we're quoting children's books I give you Meg from Little Women, who was also sometimes Daisy, and her daughter, Margaret, who was always Daisy. Marguerite is the French version of Margaret.

reuset Wed 22-Jul-15 21:35:41

I don't remember Chalet School Mollie being short for margaret. I remember a Peggy, Margot and somebody else though.

It's not correct though, regardless. I'd like to know Joyce Brisley's reasoning for using. I suppose Milly Maggie Mandy doesn't have quite the same ring grin

RiverTam Wed 22-Jul-15 21:57:42

I don't understand your use of 'punning'?

You seem very reluctant to accept that, 'rightly' or 'wrongly', Molly is used by many people as a nn for Margaret. It's a nn, ffs, surely people can use what they like!

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